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symbols3to16   
4 Apr 2021
Work / Where is the immigration industry [23]

@Strzelec35
You're not doing alright, bro. If you're definition of "doing alright" is not wanting to live, and losing motivation with females.

Quit blaming your heritage for everything. I guarantee if you were a non-white immigrant you would be in Anti-fa.

Get help. You have problems. How old are you that in Poland of all places you resort to milfs? Really? The only excuse for that is being hideously ugly.

If you think it's hard for you to pull at the Cubano as a dude from Cali the only place left for you to get your dick wet is in the shower, (with the water on, don't forget!).

This dude sounds like a future Polish American Eliot Rodger. That incel dude.

In the old days, you would have had a choice between looking for help or getting put down like a sick farm animal.
symbols3to16   
4 Apr 2021
Work / Where is the immigration industry [23]

but being in Poland and not dealing with the suppression or being suppressed anymore. i just wish it was a better country or more evolved.

its almost like being deported from prison or going from a prison to a prison in the free world.

I feel you on that one. It's one of the things that I love enough to make me spend 18 months here, and to convince my Polka to come back, (she strongly prefers NYC, citing the fact that divide and conquer, and cancel culture itself is being propagated by the new regime, despite it coming from "the right") I actually agree with her 100%. I've met many Americans and Brits who are so fed up with recent developments that they're blind to the same thing occurring right now, (though on a smaller scale, for now,) in Poland.

Poland is as polarized as the states, except that everyone looks the same, and most (young) Poles don't even have a name, accent, etc. that gives away their region. In the US we have race and accent. If you're a white guy with an NYC accent, you will be distrusted by conservatives in red areas unless you're basically wearing a MAGA hat. In NYC, people are waiting to catch me say something "bigoted." It's never happened in real life. I've gotten miles better at being a Machiavellian f*ck, this summer especially. This one always gets my friends laughing: I speak a regional dialect of Arabic well, not perfect, but enough that people think I learned it at home and have told a few Arab shopkeepers my dad was from (place of regional dialect) and passed away when I was a kid and that my mom raised me Christian, but that I have been reading the Quran. They treat me better than actual Muslims. I've heard different things about whether or not this is actually halal, (Arabic for Kosher,) but it's been working at two different deli/minimarts.

When it comes to dealing with black dudes, they're usually super relaxed. As long as you're confident and treat them with some respect they're fine. I thought one of the most interesting things over the summer was seeing how when one is very calm and confident, yet polite, you can literally see them do a 180; facial expressions lighten up and body language relaxes. The crazy ones rarely travel more than a few blocks from their home. Black women are women, and every man should know how to talk to a woman. I once saw some vandalism/graffiti in Cuba that said: "la pinga no tiene ideología" which word for word means "the dick has no ideology." That rings true to my personal experience, (but it definitely DOES have a preferred "phenotype".)

My biggest issue was on a zoom call at Uni. - I'm going back to school part-time, I wanna teach in schools. The field I'm in requires a very flexible moral code, and I want to do my part in fighting this madness, as futile though it may seem. - a girl with a different "phenotype" compared to me called me a racist, and I responded by attacking her with the intention of being as harmful and humiliating towards her as possible, as a lesson to any other idiot that thinks slandering a stranger is okay. She started crying and logged off. The teacher almost failed me until I "took the nuclear route" and had a colleague modify a bot that filled his inbox with (literally) thousands of emails all with my message and name every day, all day and night until he explained his biased grading. He gave in after 1 day. I let it run for another 48 hours. The actual director of the program ended up actually apologizing to me. The girl did as well.

The scary thing is that I got like 4 weak-willed cowards who private chatted me with on zoom asking me for my number. I literally responded to all 4 asking "Why are you too afraid to use the public chat?" That's honestly the only problem I've had. It's solvable. The problem is that all the sane people have been scared into staying quiet. These censorious, anti-liberty, authoritarians only comprise a very small minority. They grow every time someone stays silent. If you stay silent and turn the other cheek like a good Christian you don't have the right to act appalled by their growing power in your society. Anyone not supporting a family, or a relative, who sits on the sidelines and watches in silence while they destroy all America, and by extension a lot of European Societies, hold dear is the reason this continues. Be smart though. Every schizo who acts on hate and a desire for "glory" is one point for the other team. If everyone stood their ground, hit back with the same force they were hit with, and understood that we are in a new type of warfare and therefore must not bemoan, but rather understand education, big tech, and the media's power without hate, rashness or falling victim to pessimism, we would already have this insanity behind us.

The silver lining is knowing that if the radicals end up destroying Europe and North America, their reign will be short-lived. Once their "exotic, oppressed, brown" pet Muslims from the Middle East arrive they will learn the "religious" westerners they shamed, were comparatively basically atheists. I don't like what they represent, but one cannot honestly say that they are cowardly, weak-minded, or averse to extreme acts of violence if it is necessary. The interpretation of Islam most common, (though religiosity varies...) teaches that the greatest thing one can aspire to do is live for Allah, not oneself. How one lives this idea out through action in their own life varies...

Get a TEFL course, email professors, and offer to record audio for free in exchange for letters of recommendation. Write a ****** book about your life, put it on Amazon. Pay someone on Fiverr to review it using American accounts.

Or change your name to a Crimean Tatar one. Then apply to Germany as a refugee citing far-right Poles sending you death threats, (pay someone to send you death threats for proof.) Tell them you found out you were part Crimean Tatar, got interested in Islam, and now as a Polonized Tatar your life is in danger. If you wanna really seal the deal, write a book about it.

You expect me to believe that you have no options? Your situation sucks, I'll admit. Have you tried calling the embassies of other EUfriendlier people or a more "civilized" populace? I've met so many people who treat the "modelo virus" as if it has made life impossible. It's made it a lot harder, but you spent longer than a week or two in Prison, you definitely know how to kombinować much better than you think.
symbols3to16   
4 Apr 2021
Work / Where is the immigration industry [23]

@amiga500
Thank you amiga. I'm going through a C2 prep book right now. I took the practice test ~4 months ago and passed (not counting reading and writing) by a safe, yet small margin. My tutor says I would have failed the writing section. I've been trying to read Polish each day for at least an hour, I keep personal correspondence with the head of the Polish Department at the University of Pittsburgh, (his name is repeated often on the forum, and he doesn't have the recording the publishing house does,) and he has been a great help as well.

I have a good friend who is a lawyer in Wawa, he has been sending me stuff in Polish pertaining immigration law, the language used is VERY difficult. Hopefully with time I can grasp it better.

@MODERATORS what kind of forum are you keeping here? A forum for advice, or is this group therapy for angry western men that ended up living someplace they despise yet won't take the necessary steps to gtfo? This place makes even the Chinese owned Reddit look like a gathering of the worlds top minds hahaha
symbols3to16   
4 Apr 2021
Work / Where is the immigration industry [23]

@Strzelec35

Sounds like you got three options here, buddy.
1. Leave Poland
2. Stay mad

Sounds like you're staying mad, buddy. I'd guess it's not exactly a "boss" life that living, right?

Polish people aren't generally friendly, at first this bothered me, but then I realized I could just accept that fact. It really does not bother me if a damn bureaucrat puts on a fake smile or not. I only care if they don't do their job right. You must be from the woods, like Kansas or something. In NY, anywhere close to the "inner cities", the demographic of people one must deal with are much more incompetent and MUCH louder. I'd rather someone STFU, not put on a fake smile, and get their **** done.

My brother-in-law intentionally charms the legs off to every female he has to deal with in a professional setting. He's 100% Polish, doesn't speak a lick of English. Runs his own successful company at age 33. Everyone knows him. I've seen what how he acts.

Adapt or become "a victim" of natural selection. If one cannot adapt, (despite being Polish/American/British/Australian idfk,) then that person should never leave their little hometown in bumf*ck.

To all the "confused" people who may be reading: Whining about how you're life sucks on the internet instead of being a man and having some initiative to fix it, like those emo folk on Tumblr do, is not an enviable place to be in. Let's have some sympathy on 'em. Even an apostate and heretic, like me, feels both contempt and pity for these sad folk.
symbols3to16   
4 Apr 2021
Work / Where is the immigration industry [23]

@Strzelec35
Most of the students are cool outside of a classroom setting. It is very annoying. I did berate someone in upper management, telling them if they are happy with their subpar English, then they should get a new teacher. I was much more impulsive then. Somehow I kept working in the corpo...

@Cargo pants
Yeah, but unless it's something stupid I'm complaining about, I've gotten the impression that they're not saying it to hurt you, a lot Poles are touchy about Poland, it's something they're self-conscious about.

@Strzelec35
I literally make phone calls to different government departments at least 3 times a week. Never is there a problem.
In real life, I never had a problem. Even when I spoke horrible Polish. They're not very chatty, but I would be too if I worked as a Civil Servant. How long have you been in Poland? I find it's usually easier to blame "this damn country!" than it is to spend a moment thinking whether perhaps it would be better for you in the long run if you assumed the blame, and thought about how if you approached things differently people might respond differently. How much would it cost you to pay a Polish student a little if you really have that many problems handling bureaucracy?

PiS is getting involved in many sectors, and that is worrying. Not just for business owners, but for all Poles in general.

Back on topic, Does anyone know anything about Immigration Consultancy?
I know it's a pipedream to think you'll make a US Salary, but if I ever want to come back to Poland, I don't wanna be involved with teaching.

symbols3to16   
4 Apr 2021
Work / Where is the immigration industry [23]

@Cargo pants

Thank you, I literally couldn't remember what the right word was! lol
Yeah, I'm aware. My father-in-law is an entrepreneur, and I have basically replaced my szwagier's role. He is happy about it. They are from a poorer region, though they have had a successful business for decades. I help with managing the logistics, as well as the accounting I'm also the one people talk to first after making an appointment with the company over the phone. I have experienced 0 xenophobia, perhaps because I look like a typical tall white dude, and I pronounce Polish (usually...) very well. Most assume I'm Polish-American, and I just go with it.

I'm bored, and in the mood to explain this; I like semi-anonimity. I spent years studying and occasionally teaching about learning to convincingly mimic natives, why phonetics matters, and how to sound native - even it's only a few key sentences and you don't know **** about the language. You may learn more than you expected, considering the time it takes for an (average) brain to adapt to the new phonemes/allophones and prosody of a non-native language/accent. The time required is best measured by # of nights slept; bar geniuses, one cannot cram this as if it were finals' week. If you do, you will not be able to hear how / when your speech is off. The process can be sped up by being taught how to physically produce new sounds, and what pitfalls to watch out for, by professionals such as Linguists and Speech Pathologists. Nonetheless, if you wish to be able to hear when, and precisely why your utterance sounded foreign to a Pole, as in: what was the portion of the spoken language which you produced that gave your identity away? Self-awareness is critical, especially in terms of vowels, (and in Polish's case the ć vs, cz and ś vs. sz, as well as stuff like an ę or ą before <l> or <ł>.) Really though, this stuff is important ONLY for a very small group of professionals.

Despite my rant up above, I have a slight foreign accent when in Polish. I should try harder, but if you speak it all the f*cking time, you stop caring. It's a ridiculous language.

Truly, I feel the easiest part would be enticing plenty LAs to come chose a legal job in Poland over a job in the states, working illegally. I interact very frequently with (unskilled workers, from very poor places in LA) Latin American immigrants in the US. Many of the dudes I know, (serious here...) think Europe is Europe, the end of the story. One asked if I could see the Eiffel tower from Warsaw. Just place a blonde girl eating a baguette with the Eiffel tower in the back and we'd be shocked at how many people one could get. LA is a BIG place.
symbols3to16   
3 Apr 2021
Work / Where is the immigration industry [23]

I used to browse these forums quite often. I know pessimism is in no short supply ;)

I lived in Poland for 2.5 years, then I moved back to the states for 2 years, then with Corona me and my Polish wife were both working online, I wanted to use the lockdown to further improve my Polish, so I've been here around 18 months. (Mastering Polish has been an obsession over the last few years; the fact I still can't speak with the same ease as in my other native and fluent language(s) drives me crazy.)

I'm a dual citizen (both parents from Europe, but born in the states,)

Since I've been back in Warsaw, I've been noticing tons of non-white immigrants. Every time I get in an uber with an Indian or Pakistani they start talking about how they got sent here by some agency that procures visas, etc. I guess I'm a typical American in that I talk to everyone. It's not only the Indians/Pakis that used some agency but the FSU immigrants too. (I don't mean Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, etc.)

I speak Spanish almost as if it were a native language, (I'm not Hispanic / Latin American, it's a long story.) I also speak Brazilian Portuguese very fluently.

A Polish friend of mine told me that in Wrocław, there is a real demand for "cheap labor" and that I could easily get hired by a company that deals with Latin American immigrants. (I can do pretty much anything in Polish, though I make some mistakes, and I do still start to word things sloppily if I'm discussing something like philosophy. Also, I have to really listen to be sure I understand native speakers who swear every other word, and even then they sometimes lose me.)

I have a good-paying job in America, and we're going back to the USA soon, but I would like to live in Poland after I save some money in the US. I like Poland more than my Polish wife does, to be honest. But, I'm not gonna teach English.

I taught English in Warsaw for around 16 months, but Polish students are, on average, insufferable. I would love to start a language school, but not in Poland. I've taught English elsewhere, so I have a comparison. A great example is how much importance the average Polish student places on "Vocabulary Lists" and other such nonsense.

I could apply to become a Polish citizen in another 2 years.

Is there any growth in this field? Is it feasible? I have a background working for private security firms, (big ones, not like a PI or anything,) and languages. I would be down to try Corpo life just for the hell of it. I'm curious how long I'd last. I doubt I would find it appealing.

Thanks