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That's definitely not a rule. I know many sons who take care of their elderly mothers (even though they have sisters).


Are you kidding me? That would mean that either all men in Kielce earn enough in one job to provide everything their families need (I doubt it) or they just don't give a toss if their wives and children have everything they need (also doubtful). So what's going on there in Kielce??? xD

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Me too. What you say might have been a rule 20 years ago but definitely not today (retired men take care of their elderly parents too - I know personally two such guys).


Look, you said yourself that it is usually women who do most household chores and take care of children more than men, right?

It is obvious then that earning money rests on men. If a married couple with children can have all their needs fulfilled with each parent having just one job - brilliant. Absolutely lovely. However, it is very often not the case, not even in Gdańsk, so I imagine that in Kielce it's even worse (lower salaries, fewer opportunities).

In such case, men should take responsibility and work more. When I was younger I took a lot of jobs on the side and worked almost every weekend, my brother in law does deliveries apart from his normal 40h job, and my neighbour (a builder) works crazy hours - because that's what men do, they take care of their families.

In connection to our earlier conversation: maybe that's why kieleckie is "Polska B" - women take care of finances and men don't work more than 1 job? xD

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Why shouldn't one want all of these things? What you described is a middle-class lifestyle to which many people aspire and which many people achieve.

Why do you think such "expectations are too high"? If a man can do it for his family, why shouldn't he?

I feel attacked.

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Jaysus... and then you are surprised when I say something about margines społeczny!

Unless, of course those 95% of men earned enough in one job for all their families' needs. If not, they are bums not men.

Anyways, ladies - if that's the kind of men you meet and live around, please accept the expressions of my deep regret.

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*sighs*

And two single jobs are enough for everything?

Brilliant.

If not, see my post #352.

Have a nice day.

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This whole conversation only proves what I always knew: every woman gets a man that she deserves* (and vice versa).

xD

* apart from domestic abuse cases obviously

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Brilliant. :)

So, for example, you live in a house/apartment that is too small for your family, and your kids can't go to a good private school, but at least the guy "is there for you"? In what sense though? Sharing the poverty and being there every minute of it, instead of getting his finger out and earning more? :) So, I guess Ferdynand Kiepski is you prince charming? ;)


Oh, definitely! 100% :)

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They are not known to bring misery either.

My point is, a man should provide for all his family's needs to the best of his strengths and ability. If he doesn't, he's a bum.

End of.

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Why?

I work over 1.5 full-time and I still have time to read to my son and help my daughter with her homework in the evening. I don't work weekends anymore (or do it very rarely), so we can go shopping, to the zoo or ride a bike together. Working a lot doesn't exclude spending time with your family (nor is it a valid excuse not to). Balance is the key.


It was just an example. When, and if, you ever have children of your own, then you will appreciate the amount of money that raising them requires. :) Until then everything you say is purely hypothetical, and I speak from my own experience and deep wisdom. :)

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I usually work 7:30-19:30 (21 two times a week), some of it indeed from home and an occasional weekend. That translates to slightly over 1.5 normal full-time (but these are academic jobs, so it's more like 3 full-time jobs in terms of pay). That means that three times a week I have time for my daughter's homework and/or reading to my son (which I enjoy a lot) and almost every weekend we have time only for ourselves. Matter of discipline and organisation.

Almost every man I know works similar hours. There's nothing unusual about it.

News / Poland Sports News [985]


They are actually getting better. As for Polish NT - it's painful to watch. Time to say goodbye to this team (Lewandowski, Szczęsny, Krychowiak, Grosicki) and start building a new one.

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Now you are being dramatic.

A man has to do what a man has to do, a woman has to do what a woman has to do. Old school.

You like to talk about Japan so much. How much time do you think Japanese fathers spend with their kids when they are very young (and the father has to build his professional career)? "A good husband is healthy and absent", as Japanese wives' favourite proverb says. :)

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@Paulina

What? You don't like Japan anymore??? lol

My family is quite happy, thank you. :)

Get back to me when you have a husband and children of your own and then lecture me on family life. :)

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Sometimes. I don't always help my daughter with her homework (and my son is still in kindergarten) - that's not the point of homeworks anyway.


Fair enough. It's nice of you to say so.

History / Ulma family beatified for heroic Christianity during WW2 [35]


Belief in a higher, omniscient entity that knows all and sees all, and will eventually either reward of punish our deeds definitely helps. From the point of view of practical ethics in a society one could hardly come up with a better idea.

Life / Why is women-hatred and stereotyping so popular in Poland? [177]


That's actually a good question - if a monstrosity called "partial birth abortion" (i.e. killing a baby during natural birth) is allowed, then why not 1 hour after birth?

2 hours? 2 weeks? 3 years? Until the baby can learn multiplication table? Where's the limit?

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...and, if I may add, if it's a different solution than in case of a minus-one-hour-baby (one hour before birth), then why is it different?

Life / Why is women-hatred and stereotyping so popular in Poland? [177]


:)

You're too cruel, Novi. People's idiocy has to be shown to them in a gentle, sympathetic way. Otherwise they will pout and refuse to accept reality.

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I only mentioned my daughter in relation to homeworks. And you said that at 19:30 she should be in bed. She's 14. How many teenagers do you know that go to sleep at 7.30pm? :)



But men, in most cases, are absolutely atrocious when it comes to house chores. For example, if I cooked for my family, they would end up in a hospital with serious indigestion problems, whilst my wife is absolutely brilliant at it (just as my mother-in-law by the way :)). Why not let her do what she's good at and let me do what I'm good at? Why does it have to be this strange and unnatural "equal" division of earning and house chores? I consider it inefficient and illogical. Sorry.


Which probably has something to do with the fact that we live in a material world and have material needs.

Look, people, I don't want to argue about it - it's not like I'm for rat race or mindless materialism/consumerism. If I were a bachelor, I'd be more than happy to live in a basement, drive an absolute beater car (or even better - take trams and buses) and spend my time reading books and praying. The point is, being a father changes your perspective. Difficult to explain to someone who isn't, I suppose.

Anyways, I'll take what you're all saying into account and come October - when my remaining classes start - I'll definitely be here less often and using every free moment to be with my family; and if I post here, you can be sure I'll be getting paid for it (labs when students do most of the work, consultation hours to which nobody comes, tests, okienka etc.) ;)

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It has to be in the Top 10 most idiotic things I've ever heard. Probably even Top 5.

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Well, at least you got that right. :)


What does that have to do with the idiotic sentence that "the Relgious right hates the child"?

If a single mother cannot support her child and can't count on any help from anywhere she can always give it for adoption. Anything is better than killing it.

The leftist approach is a bit like: "The mother is poor and can't afford all the cost - let's kill the child! She is a bit depressed with all the coming duties and resposibility - let's kill the child! The father is an irresponsible bum and he disappeared from the mother's life - let's kill the child!". Killing the child seems like the best solution to all the problems.

So, let me get this straight, Lyzko: the religious Right hates the child (that's why they want it to live) and the irreligious Left loves the child (that's why they want to kill it)? Is that it?

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:)

Good one, Iron.

Or what if a girl identifies as a rich person trapped in a broke girl's body, and it causes a lot of distress in her life? I think she should have a finances transition operation (like $20 million transferred into her account or something). xD

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@Paulina, @Lenka, @Feniks

You know what, guys? I was thinking about all that yesterday, I talked to my wife, and I have to say that not everything you wrote was complete and utter nonsense. I shall, therefore, reduce my working hours (a little!) and spend more time with my family.

I think I might be the first case in Internet history of somebody actually being convinced about something on a forum. :)

We'll keep in touch - I'll still check out co się tutaj odwala every now and then. Thanks for all the advice.

P.S. I'm still not doing any cooking. That's not even negotiable.

Off-Topic / Things we hate [371]


One thing that I really hate is monuments of Stepan Bandera.

Another thing that I really hate is spreading vicious rumours.

The worst thing happens when the two are combined. There are people spreading vicious rumours that after the war the eastern border of Ukraine will be decided by the location of easternmost Stepan Bandera monument (they are marked by blue dots on the map)...





... I really hate those vicious rumours about Bandera's monuments but maybe (just maybe) Ukraine should build a couple of more of them, slightly farther to the east - just in case.

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Well, at least they are further east than the monuments.

News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [957]


How exactly do you propose to do that? I mean not only "distributing" them but also making them stay where they are.

When they get to the EU - and most of them want to go to Germany, France, Netherlands or Scandinavia - how do you propose to keep them in Bulgaria, Romania or Poland? Tie them on a chain? Lock them in closed camps? How?

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It wouldn't solve the problem. You are already assuming that most of them would claim benefits but what about those who want to work? Wages in Bulgaria are not the same as in Ireland, and I bet most of them would rather give up Romanian benefits to live and work in Germany or Belgium.

So, for the overwhelming majority of immigrants the question still remains the same - how do you keep them in poorer countries of the EU?

We observed the problem very well with the first wave. Poland took in some of them, local parishes found them flats/houses to stay in, helped them find jobs and they got Polish benefits (much lower than, for example, German ones). In a matter of weeks most of them went to Germany anyway.

We can't have any viable distribution scheme as long as wages/benefits are not very similar all over the EU, and it's not going to happen in predictable future.

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Hey, I'm just trying to establish how Tacitus plans to solve this "migrant distribution" problem.

As for mass immigration to Europe, I'm definitely against it. Well, at least to the countries that had no colonies. If a country had colonies in Africa and exploited African people for centuries, then they deserve everything they get when it comes to immigration. The same applies to South America and Asia. I see it as a sort of historical justice: greedy c*nts who enslaved and exploited millions of people in Africa, South America, India or Pakistan will eventually become minorites in their own countries because for some reason migrant women, as opposed to native Europeans, still retained their maternal instinct. It's a perfect justice, almost Godly one might say. Pan Bóg nierychliwy, ale sprawiedliwy - as wise Poles say. :)

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [939]

I would just like to point out that while nazism was indubitably a horrible ideology and an aberration of common sense and human decency, not everything connected with it was totally nonsensical or wrong.

For example, this noble slogan - "Kinder, Küche, Kirche" - provided it doesn't entail any coercion and is simply an expression of a certain ideal, should not be frowned upon or disparaged. Actually, I like the slogan so much that I might even be tempted to have the letters KKK tattooed on my shoulder if it wasn't for the fear that the acronym might be misunderstood by some quick-to-conclusion-jumping people.

If a woman chooses the ideal of family values (Kinder), taking care of their health as well as creating and keeping alive the flame of familial love (Küche) whilst not forgetting the chief end of every human being in worshiping our Lord Jesus Christ (Kirche), she should definitely be praised for her choice as it is infinitely more valuable for society in the long run than the opposite ideal of a 40 year-old childless spinster, with a "career" in shuffling papers and - in the best case scenario - a PhD on 17th century Latvian cutlery that nobody read (except herself and bored reviewers).

What annoys me, on the other hand, are half-witted female organisms who very often like to belittle great women who choose KKK instead of a "career" or "self-fulfillment". Any leftist female organism who makes a full-time mother and wife feel bad about herself and her choice is surely deserving a place in the lowest circle of hell.

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Thanks for the linguistic tip.


Because Polish men died in wars and uprisings and it was Polish women who kept the flame alive whilst the men were dying, being imprisoned or exiled. Polish history 101.


We can thank all the leftard propaganda and silly Hollyforest movies for that. Also, the quality of men would also seem to decrease recently. Perhaps the Church should allow polygamy for decent men to have more wives (and automatically also more children) whilst pedały w rurkach or irresponsible bums would remain honorary members of their incel clubs forever. Hmm... a thing for the Pope to consider. :)