Life / Thoughts on Music in Poland [132]

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The very beginning of the 1970s song Oowatanite by April Wine most closely resembles which sound(s) in Poland?

Hello all, strange topic here,

The opening sounds of this 1970s song called "Oowatanite" (the Canadian rock group April Wine) most closely resembles which sound(s) in Poland? Railroad crossing bell? Burglar alarm? Fire alarm? School bell? etc? In Canada (and maybe also USA) it most closely resembles a railroad crossing bell (or at least that's how railroad crossings sounded back when I was a child, in 1980s). In actuality, the drummer is just using some sort of bell on his drum kit, it's not some pre-recorded sound sample

Oowatanite by April Wine: youtube.com/watch?v=fXYPWE_8Twg

Language / If nominative singular noun ends in "-(not -c-) + ha", is dative & locative singular ending still "-sze"? [16]

(Partial translations below...I did my best LOL):

sjp.pwn.pl/poradnia/haslo/;11744
Question: "Form of noun 'wataha' in locative case as 'watadze' is or once was correct form?"

Answer:
" 'Wataha' should have locative (and dative) in the form 'wataże', but because the words characterized by the commonality/intensity 'h-->ż' are not enough, the word 'wataha' has long been changed like the words 'blacha' & 'mucha'-->'watasze', like 'blasze' and 'musze'. For several years, the spelling 'watasze' can already be found in dictionaries in front of the related form 'wataże'

The locative 'watadze' corresponds to the older and no-longer-used word 'wataga'. In modern dictionaries, we don't find 'watagi'. It should be checked in the later editions if 'watadze' is being removed and replaced with 'watasze' "

sjp.pwn.pl/poradnia/haslo/;11744
"Doha. Capital of Qatar. I have doubts whether or not it should not be read as 'w Dodze', and not - as stubbornly repeated in almost every portal - 'w Dosze'. For comparison, words such as puha, duha or Dołha, near Międzyrzec Podlaski, this is how we read: pudze, dudze, and Dołdze, respectively

More well-known examples are 'wataha' and 'yamaha', but as for them, the new spelling dictionaries of PWN provide the datives & locatives '-sze' (form 'wataże' still listed as side variant)

General information about the spelling h and ch in the borrowed words is given in the Great Spelling Dictionary PWN. The codifications of datives & locatives of nouns ending in '-ha' changed in 1990s..Earlier in dictionaries, there were forms '-że' and '-dze', examples 'wataże' and 'watadze'..Today the relics of spellings remain here & there..Mentioned by Mister, 'puha' has three variant forms in the WSO (pusze in first place, and side by side in pudze and puże), and 'duha' only two ('dudze' and 'duże'). In the details, we can see inconsistencies that should be corrected in the next edition of the dictionary, but in general there is a tendency to move away from the endings '-że' and '-dze' in favour of the ending '-sze', and not distinguishing between nouns ending in '-ha' and '-cha'. Of course we still write 'watażka' and not 'wataszka', spelling resources have not reached as far."

Language / If nominative singular noun ends in "-(not -c-) + ha", is dative & locative singular ending still "-sze"? [16]


The website pl.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/wataha lists both "watasze" and "wataże" as being dative & locative singulars of "wataha". And this website
sjp.pwn.pl/poradnia/haslo/;12262 lists "Doha" (capital city of Qatar), plus these explanations in the paragraphs (English only please).

Language / If nominative singular noun ends in "-(not -c-) + ha", is dative & locative singular ending still "-sze"? [16]


Dative & locative singular of "wataha" (derived from Ukrainian) is watasze/wataże/watadze, according to en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wataha...From what I recall, "-dze" is also dative & locative singular ending of nominative singular nouns ending in "-ga". And before now, I never saw dative & locative singular ending "-że"

Language / If nominative singular noun ends in "-(not -c-) + ha", is dative & locative singular ending still "-sze"? [16]


Well you never know, maybe for example "Dwaj/trzej/czterej Bahowie są w sali lekcyjnej", "Wszyscy Bahowie są pilni/pracoholikami", etc

Language / If nominative singular noun ends in "-(not -c-) + ha", is dative & locative singular ending still "-sze"? [16]


Basically non-Polish nouns ending in "-(not -c-)ha", most of those nouns being capitalized. A random example would be "Baha" (an Arabic male first name, so I'd guess nominative & vocative plural would be "Bahowie")

Language / If nominative singular noun ends in "-(not -c-) + ha", is dative & locative singular ending still "-sze"? [16]


Yes exactly (and I apologize for the confusion), nominative singular feminine nouns of non-Polish origin ending in (for demonstration purposes) "-aha", "-bha" etc...as well as the examples you gave, "-kha" and "-lha" etc. My question was if their singular dative & locative declensions would still be "-asze", "-bsze", "-ksze", "-lsze" etc.

So far, I've found only one declinable nominative singular (more specifically, virile category) noun ending in "-(not -c-)h"...that noun being "Druh" (nominative & vocative plural "Druhowie") which is apparently considered an obsolete/outdated word

Life / Equivalent of American televangelists in Poland? [11]


Tony Robbins is a "life coach". A televangelist preaches religion (specifically, Christianity) on TV, and the most well-known and televised American ones also ask viewers for monetary donations "in the name of God/Jesus" or similar lines

Life / Equivalent of American televangelists in Poland? [11]


LOL all three I mentioned above are multimillionaires...they've famously paid for their mansions, luxury vehicles, personal aircrafts, etc using infomercial viewers' money, I don't think they even had churches built for them

Life / Equivalent of American televangelists in Poland? [11]

Does Father Rydzyk do fake "faith healings" too, like Peter Popoff and Don Stewart do in the above videos? (Apparently Peter Popoff pays actors to go in front of audiences and pretend they're medically-challenged and then faith-healed) Or does Father Rydzyk just ask for money?

Food / Which ingredients/vegetables/fruits/meats are nonexistent in traditional Polish cuisine? [125]

Considering how this thread is about nonexistent foods in traditional Polish cuisine (plus a few posts about nonexistent dishes & cuisines in Poland), I should have instead worded my question "Is African-Caribbean cuisine nonexistent in Poland?". My bad!

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]


Yes Polish language is the type of language with complex structures (more complex than any other language, as many will say), and I enjoy learning about subjects with complex structures...plus also basic conversational knowledge as well...

Food / Which ingredients/vegetables/fruits/meats are nonexistent in traditional Polish cuisine? [125]


Has African-Caribbean cuisine found its way to Poland as yet? Like jerk chicken & jerk beef, pork, etc. (Jamaica), injera (Ethiopia and neighboring countries)?

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]

Thank you, it was a fun challenge. I enjoy learning new things :)

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]



OK finally...a few wj-beginning Polish words I found here: en.bab.la/dictionary/polish-english/w/73

Wjazd(y), noun
Wjazdow(y or a or e or i etc), adjective
Wjechać, infinitive
Wjechani(e or a etc), possible verbal noun derived from infinitive
Wjeżdżać, infinitive
Wjeżdżani(e or a etc), possible verbal noun derived from infinitive

Also, I accidentally found several Polish words beginning with unexpected prefix obj-: en.bab.la/dictionary/polish-english/o/23

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]

Sorry this'll take a while, as I look for a Polish online dictionary where I can search Polish words solely by first letter(s)...instead of only full-word entries...

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]

OK thank you for the hints. The hints tell me maybe the verb (infinitive) is perfective and not imperfective (if w- is a prefix), the infinitive ending in either -ć, or less common -c. The noun derived from the infinitive would be a verbal noun (neuter gender) ending with either -cie or -nie for singular and -cia or -nia for plural? Another question, is the noun used in both singular and plural forms? Or is it used only in the singular? (I noticed that many verbal nouns are used only as singular nouns.). I start my research right now...

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]

@ Rich Mazur LOL I just like to learn about complex letter patterns and pronunciation patterns. Such as: Which letter(s) go with (or don't go with) which letter(s)? Which pronunciation(s) go with (or don't go with) which pronunciation(s)? Which letter(s) and pronunciation(s) are used/not used? Plus some conversational basics along the way...

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]

Well I'm still at beginner stage of Polish language skills (and my lack of). Please give hints, for example is wj at the start of the word you're referring to? (I'm pretty sure wj is never at the very end of any Polish word) Is the word a noun, adjective, infinitive, participle etc? If noun, then is it considered a proper noun (having first letter capitalized at all times)? Is the letter w used as a prefix? Or letter j at the beginning of a suffix? Etc


Oops my bad, I actually meant -że suffix, I mistakenly said -ż suffix. (So the correct example is "idźże", and not "idźż")

And so, certain participles ending with ć, cz, dź, dż, rz, ś, sz, ź, and ż can all be suffixed with -że (But I think only one verb tense uses the -że suffix. So for example, only the verb tense "idź" can be suffixed)

Food / Which ingredients/vegetables/fruits/meats are nonexistent in traditional Polish cuisine? [125]

Have any of you ever tried preparing traditional Polish dishes using international ingredients like crab, lobster, leeks, bean sprouts, bok choy, kohlrabi, chick peas and others? And also traditional Polish desserts using international fruits like papaya and others? I think someone on here already asked about use (or non-use) of coconut, mango, pineapple in traditional Polish recipes

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]

Another thing I've noticed about Polish spelling, very few consonants are written before letter j, none of which have accent marks on them. So far I've seen only cj, dj, sj, and zj

Food / Which ingredients/vegetables/fruits/meats are nonexistent in traditional Polish cuisine? [125]


I'm picturing tofu pierogis (or at least I'm trying to)...

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]


I was saying there seems to be no such thing as the reverse-order version of those - no such things as:
ćś, ćź, ćsi, ćzi, dźś, dźź, dźsi, dźzi, dższ, and dżż...plus no rzdż / dżrz.

But some accented consonants can be right before -ż suffix (specifically, certain participles + -ż suffix. For example, "idźż")

Food / Which ingredients/vegetables/fruits/meats are nonexistent in traditional Polish cuisine? [125]


@delphiandomine


@RandomUser

Haha, that's pretty funny. Talk about culture clash (of sorts)!!

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]


I've never seen zdź, źdź, zdzi, and ździ in reverse order (I've never seen dźz, dźź, or dźzi), I've also never seen żdż in reverse order (dżż). I don't think I've ever seen rzdż either. I've only seen źdz before letter i, and never reverse order (dzź)

Food / Which ingredients/vegetables/fruits/meats are nonexistent in traditional Polish cuisine? [125]

Have you tried (or at least seen) Asian-fused pierogis, fused with cuisines such as Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean, Thai, etc.?

Language / What do foreigners find the hardest part of Polish? [63]


I've actually seen some unexpected letter combinations like ćs (due to Polish suffix -set) and dźż (Polish suffix -ż, added onto certain participles & verb tenses)

Food / Which ingredients/vegetables/fruits/meats are nonexistent in traditional Polish cuisine? [125]


Thank you for your quick reply.

Which are the most common Polish dishes to be fused, and which other cuisines are Polish dishes most commonly fused with? And which never-been-fused Polish dishes and/or cuisines would you like to see fused? I'm guessing pierogis are commonly fused with numerous other cuisines?