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Posts by Fehervary  

Joined: 23 Sep 2016 / Male ♂
Last Post: 28 Apr 2017
Threads: 1
Posts: 9
From: Székesfehérvár
Speaks Polish?: No
Interests: History, alternate history

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Fehervary   
28 Apr 2017
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

@Ironside
You are absolutely right, but I was curious abot your viewpoints. You know, we Hungarians have a very sick obsession with territories. :)
Fehervary   
19 Apr 2017
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

@Lyzko
You know, the Euro is a suitable currency only for very strong economies like Germany or France, we don't need it yet. Besides the Eu has no legal rights to kick any of its members out.
Fehervary   
19 Apr 2017
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

@Lyzko
Not excatly. Orban actually is just a poser regarding the national and conservative values of Hungary and Europe, his only goal is to cement himself in power and steal as much as possible (both tax and Eu money) alongside his gang. I wouldn't say he's right or far-right, he betrayed those political ways and views a long time ago.
Fehervary   
19 Apr 2017
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

I know this post of mine is quite old already, but I wanted to clear some things regarding it.

First of all, during the conversation, the 13 towns of Spis got mentioned. - Actually the territories wich the my OP was about have nothing to do with those territories. Spis is not even part of Poland.

Second, if I already mentioned Spis, I would like explain the legal situation of it at the time. Ironside said because the pledge was never paid back, those Spis towns became the part of the Polish Crown. This statement is not right. First of all Spis never became part of the Polish Crown, the pledge agreement itself forbids it, and this agreement was never broken until 1773, when the Habsburg-Polish treaty returned it to Hungarian control. Further evidence that the "13 towns of Spis" was never incorporated into the Polish Crown that it always enjoyed significant levels of autonomy, and these cities contributed to the Hungarian Diet and not to the Polish.

Third, back to the territories mentioned in my OP, I talked about territorial exchange, so the Polish would receive something in return, most probably money. The border in this hypothetical sceniario would be the same as the border was for hundreds of years until 1918. (I know I already posted this map but, it's easier this way for me and I would like to correct my mistakes if I had earlier.

borders

The thick line is the current border of Poland and Slovakia, in this sceniario Hungary would purchase the lands marked as "2", "3" and "7".

I hope you read it, and maybe cleared some things up. Cheers!
Fehervary   
3 Oct 2016
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

Looks like I'm a bit late but I wanted too edit a bit the earlier!
mafketis: Ofcourse we would like it, but we are quite ambitous! :D
Both is not a problem for us! :D
Ironside: Well, I know what are you talking about, the so called 13 town of Szepes county, which was in Polish posession, right? Actually those were given to the Polish kings in pledge (I don't know if it's the correct word) by Sigismund of Luxemburg, the Hungarian king at the time. But still, those areas didn't become part of Poland, they were still part of Hungary, I'm talking de jure here. He did that to get some gold for his war against Venice, but since he lost the war, he couldn't afford to redeem those towns. Now that I did my research, I may say that too, that actually this question is not about claims or whatever, but the willingness of the Polish people to a minor border correction.

If I somehow insulted with my question any of you, I'm sorry! Actually I love poles, and I have the best wishes for you!
Fehervary   
24 Sep 2016
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

Sparks11:It was just a theoretical question, dont' need to be so sharp about that.
mafketis:Time will see...
All in all: Thank you for your answers, I appreciate your honesty!
Fehervary   
24 Sep 2016
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Slovakia_borderPoland.png - small regions near Tatra
I'm talking about the lands marked as 2. 3. 4. and 7.



Fehervary   
24 Sep 2016
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

No, you mistaken, I'm not talking about the so called "Kingdom of Galicia", but a really small territory near the Tatra mountain. It's so little land, it's not even marked on many maps.
Fehervary   
23 Sep 2016
History / Polish-Hungarian border exchange? [60]

If Hungary ever regains Upper Hungary (Slovakia), would the Polish give back to Hungary the territories wich originally were Hungarian? In the sense of mutual friendship, and Hungary would pay for it ofcourse.