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Polish-Hungarian border exchange?


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23 Sep 2016  #1

If Hungary ever regains Upper Hungary (Slovakia), would the Polish give back to Hungary the territories wich originally were Hungarian? In the sense of mutual friendship, and Hungary would pay for it ofcourse.

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23 Sep 2016  #2

What Hungarian regions? No regions in present-day Poland ever belonged to Hungary.
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23 Sep 2016  #3

No regions in present-day Poland ever belonged to Hungary.

Maybe he's thinking Austro-Hungarian empire.... though the chance of Hungary taking over Slovakia minus war and many deaths is less than zero, so it's all academic.
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23 Sep 2016  #4

Maybe he's thinking Austro-Hungarian empire

If so, Austro-Hungary controlled the smallest area of Poland, in comparison to Imperial Germany and Tsarist Russia. In any case, he's without a doubt a troll.
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23 Sep 2016  #5

Even then, today's Poland territory were in Austrian part of the Austro-Hungary Empire
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24 Sep 2016  #6

Poland's territory were in the Austrian part

Exactly. I have no idea what this idiot demand from us, maybe he's a little behind on history and still thinks that Western Ukraine belongs to Poland?
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24 Sep 2016  #7

No, you mistaken, I'm not talking about the so called "Kingdom of Galicia", but a really small territory near the Tatra mountain. It's so little land, it's not even marked on many maps.
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24 Sep 2016  #8

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Slovakia_borderPoland.png - small regions near Tatra
I'm talking about the lands marked as 2. 3. 4. and 7.



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24 Sep 2016  #9

The answer is "no." No country (except for a recent event where a Scandinavian country gave back some little hill to another just for *****) would ever "give back" land to another country. It's just a stupid question.
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24 Sep 2016  #10

I'm talking about the lands marked as 2. 3. 4. and 7.

"Regain" Slovakia first, and then we'll talk...
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24 Sep 2016  #11

Sparks11:It was just a theoretical question, dont' need to be so sharp about that.
mafketis:Time will see...
All in all: Thank you for your answers, I appreciate your honesty!
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24 Sep 2016  #12

I'm talking about the lands marked

If you're talking about that small part of Spiš that ended up on the Polish side of the border, I would advice you to check up all the facts again! Poland have a better claim to the whole region than anybody else. It is simply not worth all that bother just to claim it!

I strongly advice you to reconsider!
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24 Sep 2016  #13

:Time will see...

Move south instead. I'd much rather Hungary reacquired Croatia and the Adriatic Coast.... Wouldn't Hungarians like a nice sea coast?
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3 Oct 2016  #14

Ofcourse we would like it, but we are quite ambitous! :D
Both is not a problem for us! :D
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3 Oct 2016  #15

Both is not a problem for us

Make sure you not bite off more than you can chew.
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3 Oct 2016  #16

Looks like I'm a bit late but I wanted too edit a bit the earlier!
mafketis: Ofcourse we would like it, but we are quite ambitous! :D
Both is not a problem for us! :D
Ironside: Well, I know what are you talking about, the so called 13 town of Szepes county, which was in Polish posession, right? Actually those were given to the Polish kings in pledge (I don't know if it's the correct word) by Sigismund of Luxemburg, the Hungarian king at the time. But still, those areas didn't become part of Poland, they were still part of Hungary, I'm talking de jure here. He did that to get some gold for his war against Venice, but since he lost the war, he couldn't afford to redeem those towns. Now that I did my research, I may say that too, that actually this question is not about claims or whatever, but the willingness of the Polish people to a minor border correction.

If I somehow insulted with my question any of you, I'm sorry! Actually I love poles, and I have the best wishes for you!
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3 Oct 2016  #17

As of today, your Orban Viktor has hereby rejected a vote to allow any more migrants into Hungary, thereby being the first European nation (EU or other) to take such draconian measures:-) Other countries are sure to follow!
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3 Oct 2016  #18

All that fpr a poxy 1200 people who were going to leave for germany anyway. Another waste of time another eastern country looking backward and uncaring for nothing.
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3 Oct 2016  #19

Hey, Germany doesn't want 'em either, apparently. Yup, this'll cost Merkel the election.

Get set for "The Frauke Petry Show"!
lol
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3 Oct 2016  #20

Yeah they dont want them but would never notice 1200 more. Meanwhile this old fossil fool draws attention again and again just like the pis fools in poland. This formulates opinion. Its just bad for business and makes the place look backward. Rubbish diplomacy fail just like for ever now russia may as well take it and the rest cause that will be less embarassing.
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4 Oct 2016  #21

Hungary's Orban merely seems to be putting into action, what PEGIDA, AfD, PiS, and Le Front Nationale have up till now only been talking about!

Merkel's party might well falter come mid-next year.
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4 Oct 2016  #22

Merkels party may very well be finished. That would be a good time to start talking like this at least it would seem normal. See what I am talking about is perception of the west. One of the things that east europe has to do is convince the west that they are on the same page. They are failing at that recently but where the fail comes in is that if they wait a while the germans, french and more like here in oz are sick of muslim and 3rd world immigrants and change is taking place. By going along with it for a little while they could still achieve this objective. The same applies to Poland. But instead you have this perception that all these countries are racist forming an attitude in places like the uk for example against poles. These poles go to england speak a foreign tongue with no regard for the norm tbere are racist against coloured people and the country takes eu hand out but will no reciprocate and take any in themselves. This develops a negative perception. Failed plan and diplomacy but they have been failing for centuries so nothing new.
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4 Oct 2016  #23

were given to the Polish kings in pledge

Sure but as money have never been paid back it became a part of the Polish Crown and had been for 300 years. So your 'rights' are weak.

but the willingness of the Polish people to a minor border correction

We can take all those lands back or the money plus interest.



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