Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [134]


I'm Orthodox
What is your denomination?

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [134]

Each strict Christian. Not arians as The society of watch tower

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

Because today Lithuania isn't the same thing than Great Duchy of Lithuania, non ethnic state. So those who call themselves Poles now show only that they don't feel themselves ethnic Zmudzin. Nothing more.

Adam Mickiewicz could also declare himself Pole now in Wilno although in his time he wrote he was Lithuanian

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

I repeat: there is the difference between the historical meaning of Lithuanian and its today meaning.
According to old meaning there are no Poles in lands of Great Lithuania. All are Lithuanians

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]


A German style is the part of civilization you feel part?
As to me nothing better than a poor folwark exists.

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

In my opinion you confuse ethnic Zmudzins and Lithuanians in general. That id due to "Polonization" propaganda in the second half of 19 century. There were no Poles in Great Duchy of Lithuania even in the early 19 century. Only Lithuanians


A good man for Russia.

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

I repeat my question:
Against Lithuanians (residents of former Great Duchy of Lithuania) or Zmudzin nationalists?
You wrote they wanted to be Poles but all your story means the weren't Zmudzins nationalists only. That is the reason for my question

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]


Against Lithuanians or Żmudzin nationalists?

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

Which kind of Lithuanian origin you mean? Ethnic Jemojts as the ancestors of Radziwil or all Lithuanian szlachta in general (205 Jamojts and 805 Slavs)?

I don't mean blood law. Only Ground law. Residence in lands of Great Duchy of Lithuania before 1795 and in correspondent districts after.


What signs of that do you have?

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

Lukasz your ancestors were Lithuanians. Your heart is Lithuanian?

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]

Doing one work you may do another at the same time

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]

There was a body called Senate of Russian Empire. Within it there was a Department of Geroldia ( Департамент Герольдии). Poles and Lithuanians adressed copies of burth rates and documents on property in past to confirm nobility. You may learn mani details from that documents.

First consult Seweryn Uruski if your surnames are before letter R

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]


You may look for ancestors documents in Sain Petersbourg as I did

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]

Shall you mention exact names of gmins? That is very interesting. I payed much attention to Suwalki powiat and neighbouring lands. My grandgrandmother was born in Grodno

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]

They don't seem to be a small szlachta as my mother's ancestors.
I wrote only that I can hardly imagine Clan admission of smal families of some 1-2 wolokas


Wasn't that Great Duchy of Lithuania before 17 century? I write about Suwalki

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]

For small Lithuanian szlachta it may be in many cases doubtful.

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]

Oh!!! I'm so ignorant!!!
Maybe it was told that duke dissapeared, not their relatives

Well I remember now. My grandgrandmother was of Lubicz as everybody of Onichimowski surname from Wolkowysk powiat.
But I don't pay attention to Coat of arms because their reception is so dark in Lithuania.

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]


No persons who didn't hear about that family.


That is something new to such ignorant person as I. I thought Radziwil surname disappeared in 19 century because last men of this family didn't have sons.


To defend Lithuanian Independence!


What is the name of this Coat of arms?

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [76]

Was that man your ancestor? Was yur family Suwalki resident? Do your ancestors precede from Suwalki powiat from dark centuries?
Where did they live in powiat and what do you know about their way of life?


Very interesting thing. Did you manage to find socuments on nobility confirmations in 1815-1830 and 1835-1855? Many details can be learned from these papers


Do you mean some of your ancestors were from Crown and some from Lithuania?

Are 1863 among your famoliars mentioned in lists of arested people?

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [134]


That is very interesting but what about Christians in this forum?

I was impressioned by the news about a Polish woman who didn't abandoned her wounded husband (a railway worker) for 19 years he was out of conciousness away from any contact with the world as a vegetal.

She tried to moove him every hour during all these years.
For me that was the best news about Poland. The most glorious today because such women should exist more in Poland.
Michal, I suspect such women were in UK in Victorian age only. As to thiefs they are abundant in all states

Poles, what do you know about her? Is she strict Catholic?
It was told that married couple had 6 children

Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [134]

Grzegorz,

The question was about Christians on this forum not about thiefs. Don't permit Michal keep you away from subject.
As to Michal I can't understand him. Ha has a Polish wife and his child has a Polish mother. I'm sure he doesn't think so.

Michal, Чего Вы здесь всех обижаете. Я же общаюсь с русофобами спокойно, а чем поляки могут обидеть англичанина?

Genealogy / Minkin from Poland? [10]

Kawaz,

As far as I know, Minkin is a Jewish surname. It is derived from feminine name Minka. That was one of the ways of Jewesh surnames formation in Russian Empire, i.e. from mother's names: Rivkin from Rivka, Elkin from Elka and Minkin from Minka. It is considered so in Russia now but you should consult Jewesh historians.

As all Jewish communities were in Russian Empire in past Moldavian, Lithuanian (today Lithuania and Belarus) and Polish (today Poland and Ukraine) lands, your ancestors should be from one of these territories.

I'm sure Jewesh experts should know all about the practice of such surnames formation as well as about regions it was quite common.

Kawaz,

Alexander Minkin is quite a popular journalist in Russia.
If you want to visit your historical Fatherland, visit also Ukraine and Belarus. The territory of these states may be the place your ancestors are from. There is still a weak possibility that Minkin surname could appear in the lands of Polish kingsdom (lands of today Poland). Poles here may tell you more about that. I suppose that such surname was adopted by Jewish family in the land of today Ukraine, Belarus or Russian Federation.

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

Were these the names of villages German nobels owned or their own surnames? Were Prussian nobels of Slav origin?

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

Witek,

Can you give us the explication of nobel Prussian surnames ending by "c". Isn't it the Slav transformed "cz"? Does that mean that these nobels are of Slav origin or the villages they owned were Slavs?

News / PIS and PO - what is the difference in their programs? [35]

Lech Kachynski is President. And I'm talking about the parlamentary elections. As to Jaroslaw, smth. may be wrong with his activities.
Unfortunately the League have an antisemit reputation and that doesn't permit its dialogue with Russian political circles. I'm sure they have fresh ideas to solve some problems between Poland and Russia

News / PIS and PO - what is the difference in their programs? [35]

Yes, I hate liberast movement everythere.
It is not liberal.
I'm afraid Poland today isn't the historic RP. There are many people who are very agressive in their imoral behaviour and public opinion doesn't persecute them. There were moral violators before, but among middle classers such as little szlachta and city residents that was a shame. Nothing of the sort today.

I don't think the League has chosen a right political way to defend morals. But other political forces aren't moral defenders at all.

News / PIS and PO - what is the difference in their programs? [35]

By reading all posts I came to the conclusion that if I were Pole I would vote in favour of the League of Polish families.

I think Poles who are for moral don't have any different way.
Unfortunately the League is so unexperienced in politics and administration. It seems to romantic.

Life / Gypsies or Roma: European and Polish attitudes towards [87]


I'm sure nobody all over the world can be in competition with Romanians (Gipsies as well as Romania residents).
Don't be angry, Grzegorz.

Life / Gypsies or Roma: European and Polish attitudes towards [87]


Romanians mean Gipsies or people from Romania?