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I don't know if we are allowed to post images but ...

The military situation at the end of the conference.



The War was nearly over.


I was comparing him to Stalin, who these people seem to worship.

The Empire was costing more money to run, than it was making in money, it wasn't even paying for it self, mentally, most people had already given up Empire, and the authorities wer had already been relinquishing control.

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I think one was a sentimental attitude
the other was Genghis Khan with a Telephone.

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Definitely! and any Man who uses that phrase is ever worse, it is embarrassing, it's so twatty and impresses no-one.

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Russia started the War in Europe, along with their ally, Hitler.


irrelevant, but you obviously don't know that many people in England would like to reform the spelling of English words to make them mor lojical and faithful to alfabetical rules, leav-ing out the last unnecessary "e" off my words is deliberate.

I can't be bothered to write , "The Second World War", the WWII will do.


This is an example of the anomalies of Inglish spelling. The last 3 letters are pronounced Lie.


He had nothing in common with Stalin.

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The high figures for the Soviet Empire was down to the incompetence of Stalin, who was an idiot. He decimated his Military Leadership just before the War, put only his weakest defences against their new joint border with Nazi Germany, refused to believ, when warned by a dozen different sources, that Hitler was about to attack the Soviet Empire, he admired and looked up to Hitler, worshiped him, based his own purges on Hitler's, and he froze like a rabbit when Hitler attack the him, and went into hiding. He was reckless with his population and numbers, it didn't matter how many of his people died, as long as he won. He was a brutal, ruthless leader, who murdered a lot more of his own people than Hitler did. He saw the War as an opportunity to expand his Empire, and was casually watching as Hitler and the Democracies fought it out, hoping to move in when the War had ended and beat the weakened victor. He wanted back the old borders of the old Imperial Empire, including Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, (most of which he got), he wanted to punish those Poles for defeating him in an earlier expedition to Poland, He had already got back Ukraine and Georgia and was making their life a misery deliberately creating famine to starve the population into submission, known as Holodomor. He bullied Finland into giving up territory, in Karelia. He had incorporated Mongolian into his Empire. He was one of the greatest imperialists of all time, one of the most brutal vile Dictators in History.

Estonia, Latvia, Lithuanian and the eastern part of Poland wer invaded and incorporated in the Soviet Empire as part of a deal with Hitler, his friend. Nothing to do with Churchill.


He was an Ally of Hitler until Hitler attacked him, he is the one that delayed a "Second Front". Britain was being bombed nightly and was already fighting in North Africa, Syria and Iraq.

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all off topic and deliberately so, I think. What would like Britain to hav done, re: the WWII?

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Every country has a similar their own country-centric version of the events of WWII.

and Luckily for everybody, the Axis Powers made some stupid decisions. Britain didn't make Germany attack their erstwhile Allie, Stalin and the "Soviet Union" or make Japan attack America and then for the Germans to then, for no reason, declare that they wer at War with America as well. Britain was all alone for a few years, any Allie would be grateful welcomed.

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He was gifted it thanks to Herr Hitler.

What did you want the British to do?

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No, anyone using it sounds "Pratty".

and I've notice your use of a racist expletive-

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From that link you posted:

a bit of a bad choice on your part:

"The concept is by no means universally accepted."

"...states that Churchill urged Roosevelt to continue armed conflict in Europe in 1945 - but carried out against the Soviet Union, to prevent the USSR from extending its control west of its own borders.[5] Roosevelt apparently trusted Stalin's assurances, and he was unwilling to support Churchill in ensuring the liberation of all of Central and Eastern Europe west of the USSR. Without American backing, the United Kingdom, with its strength exhausted by six years of war, was unable to take any military actions in that part of Europe."

"...the Major Allies against Nazi Germany had agreed to secure democratic processes for the countries that would be liberated from Nazi rule, such as Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, and Albania."

"Warsaw Uprising

Despite the fact that Polish and later Royal Air Force (RAF) planes flew missions over Warsaw dropping supplies from 4 August on, the United States Air Force (USAF) planes did not join the operation. The Allies specifically requested the use of Red Army airfields near Warsaw on 20 August but were refused by Stalin on 22 August (he referred to the insurgents as 'a handful of criminals'). After Stalin's objections to support for the uprising, Churchill telegrammed Roosevelt on 25 August and proposed sending planes in defiance of Stalin and to "see what happens". Roosevelt replied on 26 August that "I do not consider it advantageous to the long-range general war prospect for me to join you in the proposed message to Uncle Joe."[28] The commander of the British air drop, Air Marshal Sir John Slessor, later stated, "How, after the fall of Warsaw, any responsible statesman could trust the Russian Communist further than he could kick him, passes the comprehension of ordinary men."

"Western Betrayal" as a myth

"This "preoccupation with their historical sense of 'damaged self' has fueled resentment" towards the west generally and reinforced the western betrayal concept in particular, according to Ilya Prize.."


I'm not 'Merikan, young lady.

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America is one of the Best countries in the world, not perfect, but has played a positiv role in the world, and has been a force for good.

Russian and the Communist hav held us all back, wasted a whole century with their non-sense and Imperialist ambitions. Think how beautiful it would be if we didn't hav communism, that a wasted century, how far ahead we would be and the rest of the World would be. Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe would be free and democratic and wealthy since 1945, no Mao, no culture Revolution, No Enver Hoxha, no Ceausescu, no Pol Pot, not Kim Il Song, no Korean War, no millions starving to Death, no Holodor, Russia finance proxy bloody violent Wars all over the Globe, invaded half of Europe added it to the third they ruled already, Russia murdered and exiled huge swathes of the conquered countries particular their intelligentsia, taking all their talent and crippling their countries, Russia contributed nothing to the development of the World.


No, my bitterness is for Stalin and the people who support him and talk crap. Stalin was one of the most evil men in History, he was Poland's torturer!

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What appeasement? What appeasement? What appeasement? Stalin already ruled Poland. Churchill wanted to fight the Communist Russian Empire, it was Roosevelt who didn't want to, but remember Allied forces wer out-numbered 3 to 1 and no-one in the West knew how evil Stalin was, Britain was exhausted and broke without the Americans, couldn't do anything.

History lessons in the Communist time wer just pure propaganda indoctrination tools, also the Communist started and feed a rumour-mill and built up a hatred, a blame of Churchill to deflect attention away from themselves, they wanted you to hate him, and they succeeded, you are just repeating rumour 24 years after the Fall of communism.

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What actions?

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"Churchill alone pushed for free elections in Poland.[9] The British leader pointed out that the U.K. "could never be content with any solution that did not leave Poland a free and independent state". Stalin pledged to permit free elections in Poland, but forestalled ever honoring his promise."


Lol. Great words.
I was saying I hoped that Poland wouldn't end up like Britain, silly boy.

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How?

so all you hav is myths, legends and whispers.

anyway from the hated wikipedia;

"At the time, the Red Army had occupied and held much of Eastern Europe with a military three times greater than Allied forces in the West.."

here's the link, it takes about 2 minutes to read.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference

"Churchill alone pushed for free elections in Poland.[9] The British leader pointed out that the U.K. "could never be content with any solution that did not leave Poland a free and independent state". Stalin pledged to permit free elections in Poland, but forestalled ever honoring his promise."

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That's stupid, Churchill never became Stalin's greatest ally, Churchill never had a Pact with Stalin, Stalin was just a partner-of-convenience, our allies wer the USA and other people from conquered nations willing to fight, our island was a unsinkable aircraft carrier and base.

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Please explain why?

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Pact with Stalin? What Pact? Stalin was Hitler's biggest Allie until Hitler attacked the "Soviet Union", they had a Pact, and it was to divide Poland and the rest of Europe between them. Hitler gave half of Poland to Stalin.

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? We didn't "get" Greece.?

There was only one crook at Yalta and that was Stalin.

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You haven't told me anything, just made the same accusations.

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See! It sounds pratty.

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Really? please try.

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Do you wear jeans, hav you ever eaten a Hot Dog, hav you ever played Basketball, do you like listening to R'n'B, hip-Hop, Funk Jazz, Rock, Rock'n'Roll, or Soul, worn a Bikini? you do a lot of American things.

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Poland wasn't "sold" to Stalin, Stalin just took it. He was all about expanding his Empire.


Churchill seems to be blamed for everything, and he certainly didn't "sell" Poland to Stalin (what did he get in return?), or do any dirty tricks, he hated Communism and the Soviet Union. There should be streets named after Churchill in Poland.

we came to within 6 days of losing the War, it is only because the Luftwaffe changed tactics and bomb our cities rather than our RAF bases, that saved Britain. otherwise we would all be ruled either by Communist Russia or the Nazis.

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America is a really great country, much better than Poland.

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America is a fantastic country and has done far more for the World than Russia ever.

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95%+ of English speakers don't use it, it sounds ridiculous and effected.

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How old are you?

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You sound like a stroppy teenage girl.


Wikipedia is Great!! Much better as a source of information than any communist rag.


Eh? most of those countries hav had Wars.

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Are you a man or woman?


a 2 second search disproves that:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War


Most countries hav been at War for most of their History.