History / Unusual soldier (The bear - named Voytek) [71]

Haha. You may have it spot on there!

Can anyone tell me the justification of having a memorial at Holyrood? I don't see why it should be there.

History / Unusual soldier (The bear - named Voytek) [71]

He has a memorial at the Zoo but I am not truly sure what it is. Yes I think if anywhere in Edinburgh, the Zoo would be ideal. He was in Hutton in the borders so there would be another good place for a memorial.

I prefer the idea of a big bear at the border rather than a piper :)

History / Unusual soldier (The bear - named Voytek) [71]

isthatu wrote:


lol - yes that would be quite fitting. Although there would be those that would complain...

I'm not sure about the Angel of the North. Every time I pass it I wonder what it's all about. It's just a distraction.


wozzy (and everyone else :), I wonder if you know anything of the soldiers who served with Wojtek or can link me to a site where I can find out more about the regiment or perhaps give me some contacts of people who served with Wojtek. My friend is trying to write an obituary of someone who served with the bear and who just died recently. Thanks :)

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]

Are you going?

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]


That would take 3 minutes no? Rather than 3 days...


For you, yes. For me, no...although it is over a weekend...I'd like to see it but it might not be worth the journey. It is more of an exhibition than a festival but would probably be OK.

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]


I know. It just says sold etc. Maybe something else will be added nearer the time.


I think it will be good. I meant that it's a much longer journey for me if it's something that will only take half a day to view. I dunno. I'll think about it.


Don't you just wet it though and then shake off all the excess water? Three to six minutes max.

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]


Good point. All it really says is there will be exhibits of food, fashion etc, etc. I'll maybe email and see what they say. I reckon food would sell it for me! ;)

Would be good to know exactly what goes on there though.


Yeah. I would give it real consideration. I haven't been down to London for a long while.


How rude.

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]

It's still a consideration. I'll see.

Anyone in Scotland, or who will be, and is interested in art may like to see an exhibition by Miroslav Balka and may like to attend a talk on March 3rd.

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]

I didn't say I wanted anything up here. I just said it won't be easy for me to get to London that weekend.

Although, I would like something up here similar to Positively Poland. If it were so easy to organise...

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]


Yes I wondered about this too. Although, I imagine there will be a chance to try some Polish food and buy Polish jewellery etc. I think there is a lot that could be learned from it.

Although I would say that if you live in the area or would be in the area at the time and considered a holiday to Poland (for exmaple) that you should attend. However, if anyone did go it would be good to hear how opinions on the whole event.


True...so I wonder if they already expect it to be busy...

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]


This is the problem. All the organising in the world won't get people through the door. So what will?


No I'm not (my friend is). I agree with you that there is a gap here in the UK for a good Polish festival. Personally I would have music, food with maybe some stalls with homemade art, jewellery. Taste of Polonia in Chicago is a good example of what I mean but obviously anything here would be on a much smaller scale and probably one day would do it.

I really do think that the music and the food would be the big draw.

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]


I think that it would be better to have it out with a Polish community but I do think that getting in touch with some Polish clubs etc would be a good idea, I can see what I can do up here.


Yeah I agree with that. Of course an entry fee would be unavoidable but some freebies once inside would help ;)



Yes, I could also be interested in setting something up. I quite like the look of the fruit stock festival. It's schedule looks busy and anything that is set up would have to have a full schedule to first make people interested in attending and keeping them going once they get there.

I posted this link in another thread Scottish Festival:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/7240483.stm
If they do get Polish bands to play here, the level of interest in it would indicate the partial level of interest in something bigger and more Poland specific.

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]

Exactly, it's a massive job which most of us can't commit to. You'd be talking next year or even the year after really...

Life / Why are Poles always so miserable? Why do they never smile? [512]

I'll never get this "miserable" thing. It's an unnatural thing to walk about with a big grin on your face so therefore most people will not be smiling when you see them, particularly if they are alone.

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


Took the words right out of my mouth (or off my fingertips anyway :)

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


Yep Friday evening begins in the UK - TrollTime!

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

By you...

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


Yeah, we'll not get into all that. Ah, well, they are welcome here in Scotland.

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


One. The rest are predominantly from the other side of the border.

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


Which they do and they always put their foot in it, which is why they'll never gain the support they want.

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


Oooh, do you know secrets I don't know?

BTW, it becomes ever more obvious with each post that the BNP is your party of choice.


No...


Your opinion. There may be others that share it but not on the mass scale you describe. You'd better hurry or you'll be late for your party meeting.

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


And there's far too many moaning British people who'd rather come here and try and stir a little trouble. If immigration bothers you so much, why don't you start campaigning to the government? Nah, you'd rather come here and moan.

I said somewhere before that the schools and the NHS were stretched before Polish people came here. That's also the fault of the government as they've been steadly closing down schools and hospitals for years.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

The employment figures are based on population so it's most likely that of the "16,000" people who have gained employment, a huge majority of them are Polish.

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

szarlotka - see me after class! ;)

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

Yep, I agree with you isthatu.

Mister H, what about the thousands of able Brits who don't contribute tax because they are unemployed? They're still entitled to NHS help.

So my Polish friend has been paying tax for two years and breaks her arm falling on the ice. She can't get that arm fixed on the NHS because she hasn't contributed for a minimum of 5 years?

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


OK, so what you're effectively saying is that by filling positions that Brits find "below them", immigrants are NOT boosting the economy...eh? How can that be? They are doing jobs that were previously not filled. Therefore they are paying taxes where tax was previously not paid (for example).

Don't kid yourself that if tomorrow, all the Poles went home, Brits would snap up the available jobs. Wouldn't happen. Those who whinge that Poles stole "their jobs" are those who wouldn't be caught dead working anyway...it's just something for them to moan about during the adverts on Jeremey Kyle...


Exactly.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

So then you get my point. Some Brits won't take the jobs because of the low pay, therefore deciding that they are "better than that". But why? Everyone starts somewhere...if you have a mortgage and find yourself in a "poor" situation then you can take a break from your mortgage (it'll be written in your terms somewhere) but if you've never been solvent enough for a mortgage, you'll never have been given one.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


No. If you're talking about real farmers then I know that tenant farmerin E Scotland are being paid just above minimum wage. Although they are getting houses with this (but must pay for their own houses after retirement or after leaving farming). I'm saying that British worker with mortgages will only have been given one with adequate wage so they won't be refusing low paid jobs to pay mortgage because they wouldn't have got mortgage with such a job. They may have been given a mortgage with another salary and if that's the case, a drop in salary would be considered by the lender...overall, something would be worked out. Read back huh...


Don't talk your crap to me, it doesn't wash. I'm talking about people who are not stuck up, who will work to pay their way. Think about it...

Good edit after I already replied...!

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


Then again, I'd take hardworking Poles over slacking Brits any day...and I know many a slacking Brit...and many hard working Poles...ahhh...

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


Yeah, I know what you're saying but I live in the UK and am looking at it from my point of view here. I'm under no illusions I know that there are work-shy Poles ;)

I'm not sure why I'm being accused of being the Polish Daily Mail (I am not Polish).


I wouldn't throw a tantrum if someone said there were hard working Brits and slacking Poles. There are slackers everywhere, in every race, in every profession... ;)

I am starting to lose the will to live with all this immigration stuff though.. :D