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Last Post: 17 Mar 2013
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Envyme   
17 Mar 2013
History / Poles from South West Poland speak in German dialect? [9]

Thank you guys for answers.

Btw, someone told me that Poland had have a very large German input in the last thousand year. This country was a very rare inhabitated land what have soaked up many immigrant from the overpopulated West. Is it right?
Envyme   
15 Mar 2013
News / Hundreds of Polish guests arrived in Hungary to join the national holiday [17]

At the invitation of the "Civil Összefogás Fórum" some 700 Polish guests arrived in Hungary to celebrate the national holiday with Hungarians. The trip has been organized by the newspaper Gazeta Polska, and its Club Network as well as the "Civil Összefogás Fórum".

However, due to the severe weather conditions and the declared snow emergency all official events have been canceled for the whole day. Organizers of the trip, however, quickly rescheduled the programs and arranged indoor activities for the Polish guests, which include museum tours and visiting the parliament.
Envyme   
13 Mar 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

Jasondmzk,
Then I can't imagine how you will react if I tell you that Miami Vice is no longer the number one television show in America.

This mod does not want to see this turning into a pi$$ing contest. Relax folks.
Envyme   
13 Mar 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

Jasondmzk,
It's 2013. Normal people shop their stuff on the Internet. Nobody wants to go and shop at a mall together with lots of other people. Unless they're there to buy food because there's no home delivery, there's no reason to go to a mall. Especially not for a man.
Envyme   
11 Mar 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

No, because you're being falsely obsequious to the facts, then making repugnant characterizations based on nothing other than your pre-determined biases.

It's just one of those useless products that people buy to show they can afford Western stuff. Since when did people start buying baby food in Poland? Haven't people been mashing regular food up until like 1992? Next you're going to tell me that "everyone" buys Nike shoes.

I'm just telling you my observations and saying that it's bizarre to strive to be Western. I've lived in the West for a long time and I know they're not missing anything.
Envyme   
10 Mar 2013
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Teutonic Knights were awesome, Poles can't help that they were deceived. A crusade would have arrived eventually anyway.
Envyme   
9 Mar 2013
News / Jobbik and Polish patriot groups have common objectives [6]

ábor Vona's January 26 state of the nation address event has been attended by besides several diplomatic invitees, Mlodziez Wszechpolska (All-Polish Youth) delegation to whom Vona gave a special greeting during his speech.

Jobbik and Mlodziez Wszechpolska Movement started developing friendly relations in 2009. Since then, members of the two organizations regularly visiting each other's political events. Last summer, a large group of Polish youth arrived in Magyar Sziget -- the largest nationalist Hungarian youth festival of the year. On November 11, 2012 nearly 120 Hungarian radicals (including HVIM and Jobbik Youth Branch) took part in Poland's largest annual event, the Independence Day March that had been attended by more than 50 thousand people.

Jobbik's January 26 season opening event has been attended by Witold Tumanowicz and Michał Kowałczyk representing Mlodziez Wszechpolska. Witold Tumanowicz is one of the founders of the Marsz Niepodległosci Movement and Michał Kowalczyk is a member of the organization's foreign affairs cabinet. While in Hungary, the Polish delegation met Jobbik President Gábor Vona and Witold Tumanowicz talked to N1 TV about the links between Jobbik and Mlodziez Wszechpolska and the challenges ahead of the Polish nationalist movement.

The Polish nationalists have major challenges ahead of them this year because soon, they form their own party. In some ways, their party will be structured like the Jobbik party. The formation of a Polish national party had been announced during last year's Independence Day celebration. The founding congress of the new party is expected sometime this summer. The Polish nationalists are planning to run candidates in the 2014 European Parliamentary elections. The new party will be called Ruch Narodowy, (National Movement).

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ofR8Pofbr54
Envyme   
6 Mar 2013
History / DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES OF POLES IN LITHUANIA IN 1947-1959 [6]

Summary

After the Second World War radical political and economic-social changes in Lithuania; as well as interstate agreements between the USSR and Poland greatly affected the situation of Polish Lithuanians and caused large migration processes (1944–1947, 1956–1959). These processes had long-term consequences for both the Poles who left and those who remained in Soviet Lithuania. The aim of the current work was to reveal the factors that influenced the dynamics of the numbers of Poles in Lithuania in 1947–1959, to establish their number during that time, and to show the effect of the migration process during 1956–1959 on the quantitative and social-demographic structure of the Poles in the LSSR.

In 1947, 100–120 thousand Poles lived in Soviet Lithuania. They were clustered in Southeast Lithuania, the regions of Vilnius, Nemenèinė, Naujoji Vilnia, Pabradė, Šalèininkai, Trakai and Eišiškės. One of the most important factors that caused an increase in the number of Poles in Lithuania was their migration from the USSR (especially from Soviet Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine). Thousands of Poles arrived from there during the period in question. The number of Poles in the LSSR also grew fairly markedly due to natural growth, which amounted to about 40 thousand people.

The repatriation of Poles to Poland during 1956–1959 had a long-term effect on the Polish community in the LSSR. During it, over 40 thousand Poles emigrated from Lithuania, including many representatives of the intelligentsia and youth. The repatriation can be seen in more than one way. In part, it eliminated the consequences of the Second World War and post-war years: it allowed some split Polish families to unite and gave other Poles broader opportunities for self-expression in personal, professional, and other activities. But for the Poles who remained in the LSSR it had also negative consequences. After the intelligentsia left, no one

remained who was able to maintain and strengthen the ethnic self-consciousness or develop Polish culture. One of the consequences of this repatriation was a more rapid weakening of the ethnic consciousness of Poles in the LSSR and their denationalisation. The following conclusions are formulated at the end of the article:

The migration processes greatly affected the dynamics of the numbers of Poles in the LSSR. During 1944–1947, the majority of Poles emigrated to Poland, the number of inhabitants in the Vilnius region declined significantly, and a shortage of workers was felt. After the mobilisation plans of the leadership of the LSSR to populate the Vilnius region with Lithuanians did not entirely succeed, arrivals from the USSR took the place of the Poles who had emigrated. Due to the intensive migration from the Soviet republics of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, thousands of Poles arrived in the LSSR who strengthened the ranks of the Polish community.

According to the USSR–PPR agreements, over 48 thousand people, most of whom (over 40 thousand) were Poles, were repatriated from the LSSR to Poland during 1956–1959. This repatriation affected not only the quantitative but also the qualitative situation of the Polish community and had long-term negative consequences for it. The repatriation affected the social-demographic structure of the community: a significant part of the Poles who emigrated to Poland were part of the small intelligentsia (during just 1957–1958 about 200 Polish teachers emigrated to Poland) and many young people (people in the 16–35 age group comprised over 35 percent of all those who left). Repatriation negatively affected the ethnic self-consciousness of the Poles: no one was left who could consolidate the efforts to strengthen the ethnic self-consciousness and develop Polish culture and enlightenment in the LSSR. The remaining Poles found themselves in a cultural vacuum. The ethnic identity of the Poles gradually weakened and their Russification accelerated. While 97 percent of the Poles in 1959 said their native language was Polish, in 1989 only 85 percent did so. Assimilation and minor internal (on the scale of the LSSR) migration processes in Southeast Lithuania also affected the dynamics of the Polish numbers and the ethnodemographic and ethnocultural situation of their localities.
Envyme   
27 Feb 2013
History / Poland's King Jan III Sobieski - the stopper of Turkish Janissaries! [64]

Merged: The Polish King Who Saved Western Civilisation
John III Sobieski (17 August 1629 - 17 June 1696) was the King of Poland and hero in the Battle of Vienna. It is no exaggeration to say that this man saved Europe and therefore Western Civilisation by finally stopping the Ottoman Turks inceasing their colonisation and occupation of Europe in the great battle of 1683. Together with Charles Martel these two men can be seen as the ultimate champions of the West.

Ottoman expansion
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Pope Innocent XI extended this feast to the universal Church as a solemn thanksgiving for the relief of Vienna, when it was besieged by the Turks in 1683.

The Turks had formerly laid siege to Vienna, under Solyman the Magnificent, in 1529, in the reign of Charles V. But after losing sixty thousand men, and lying a month before the place, without making any considerable advances against it, they raised the siege.
The danger was much more formidable when those infidels made a second attempt upon this bulwark of Germany, in the reign of the Emperor Leopold.

Source: nobility.org/2012/09/10/holy-name-of-mary/

Smurf,
video generation - too lazy to read? lol

Anyway, Muslims take over south-east Europe. They try to take over Austria (then probably the powerful country in Europe) and almost win but at routed by the Poles. Europe stays free but also gets coffee from the Turk.

And Its funny how the lists of jewish pogroms in East Europe usually start from around that period aswell (usually started off with Khmelyntsky uprising of 1646 onwards)...well atleast Western Civilization was saved!
Envyme   
25 Feb 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

There is no class system in Poland there is only those who can afford and those who can't.

I don't mean brands literally. There are certain, usually branded, products that are considered to be Middle Class markers. Such products can be Coca Cola, Activia Yoghurt, KitKat chocolate bar, toast, baguette, baby foods. Buying such products has nothing to do with buying actual food at the supermarket so you can have dinner.

You seem to be one of these mall guys. Maybe you can explain why you go to the mall to buy pointless products?
Envyme   
25 Feb 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

Warszawki, I disagree. Poles I know do not really care about the clothing in my opinion. It is indeed important to be 'welll dressed' on some occassions, but everyday life lacks the sense of fashion. It may be down to poverty, maybe down to false modesty, maybe down to real modesty, who knows, but I dont see much interest in clothing among average Poles, exluding people who are 20 or 30 who are different.
Envyme   
25 Feb 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

Bieganski,

But Polish yogurt tastes better than any of the branded ones. It's what makes sense to buy since it's both tastier and cheaper. Really, I've tried both. So they don't buy it because they really like it. They buy it to show off somehow.

No, this is not a thread about branded yogurt.

"Consumer choice" is ********. In some places the cheapest brand is truly the worst choice. Here, it is not so. The more expensive brand is often the worse choice. So there is no real choice in terms of products, there's only a choice in whether you want to pretend to be Western Middle Class or not.
Envyme   
25 Feb 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

Bieganski,

No need to be butthurt. Although I don't see what there is to be butthurt about.

Determination and dignity does not mean that you show up at the mall once a week to buy branded yoghurt so that others will think that you can afford it. There is no dignity in that. Normal Poles will buy normal affordable products and have no need to join the cult of the local mall. Do you see what I mean? Or are you one of those mall guys?
Envyme   
24 Feb 2013
Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

Hello Polish friends! I get the general feel that people in Poland are somehow trying to keep up appearance. From the look and feel of the country, the economy is down and people have little money. Yet, there are plenty of people that are trying to look Western Middle Class. It's not everyone, it's mostly,

* Some Boomers that have money
* X:er couples
* Some students, especially women

My question is why. Why pretend to be Western Middle Class when you can't afford one basket of food at the supermarket? By now Poles have been abroad and seen that the West sucks, so why imitate something that sucks?

And finally, why are there so many spinsters among the young student women? I am disappointed with their looks and behavior.

Please, keep it civil. Thank you.
Envyme   
24 Feb 2013
Off-Topic / What Slavic language is closer to Lithuanian? [16]

I once met a guy from Bulgaria and when he was talking on the phone with his sister, I swear it sounded just like Russian spoken with a strong Lithuanian accent. I think he was talking in a Shopski dialect because Standard Bulgarian sounds different.

Incidentally, Shopi also have preserved an ancient multi-part singing style which is very similar to Lithuanian sutartines - neither Poles nor Russians have anything like that.

So, I stay by my earlier claim that phonetically South Slavic languages are closer to Lithuanian than any Slavic tongue from the neighbouring countries.
Vocabulary is a different thing.
Envyme   
15 Feb 2013
Food / What are small fish rolled up and marinated in oil and vinegar? [11]

I've got a question. I ate something at a Polish friend's house a while ago but I can't remember the name of it. They were small fish rolled up and marinated in oil and vinegar. I think they were sardines but I am not sure. The marinade was sort of reddish. Does anyone know what I am talking about?