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WatWat   
6 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

Well, as I stated before, I have a love/hate relationship with the poly communities, but there are lots of online and offline poly communites around the world. Maybe go explore those. They are full of good info, generally, unlike...other online communities.

But if it's the sex and not the relationships you're after, then swinging might be more your style. While swingers are cool people, that's just not a lifestyle that appeals to me, so I never sought out any swingers here. I do know that in a lot of areas, the general rule for parties and clubs is couples or single women only though. So you might need to find an open minded gal to go with.
WatWat   
5 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

I have no idea, mate. I just know that some Polish guys have rather odd quirks.

Sorry, missed a few quotes: Poly relationships are a type of open relationship, but not all open relationships are poly. Swing, f. eks. is open but not poly.

Not everyone is wired to be poly, but if you are it's not any more stressful. You have to trust your partner, you have to work at keeping not one, but a few relationships going, jealousy can be a bad thing too, but it's great for the people who enjoy it. It depends on the arrangement, and there are many, but generally the dynamic is a primary couple. The other partners are all secondary (or even teritiary) to the primary. Everyone tends to know one another and is at least on friendly terms as well.

Polish guys seem keen on their harems.

Never had a poly relationship with a Polish guy. Like I said, in my experience, they're mostly mono. Plus, not in a poly mood right now.
WatWat   
5 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

Well, statistically speaking, they're quite common. The question is, what kind of woman are you attracting? Or, are you attracting the kind of woman who will shag you without a commitment and are you unaware of that? That seems to be the biggest complaing of my female Polish friends, and I have seen it first hand.
WatWat   
4 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

Who are they having relations with, then?

The studies are just based on heterosexual intercourse, but it's just the same way the traditional studies show men having more partners than women, just reversed. The reason the numbers are never equal, is because they rarely calculate the raw average. The only point of calculating the raw average is to get an idea of whether or not the study is even sort of accurate or to compare the average numbers to an earlier data set. Instead, most are looking for what the number of sexual partners the *average* man or woman has.

Okay, and here's the TL;DR part that is probably getting way more scientific than you're looking for.

So, in a survey done by More* magazine, we see that 25% of women have had more than 10 partners, while only 20% of men report the same. The average woman has had 9 sexual partners and the average man has had 7 (sorry, can't find the original study which would show the percentages) telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3685314/Young-women-have-more-sexual-partners-than-men.html

* We'll get to why these surveys might actually be more accurate than more "traditional" surveys in a bit. The sample size was quite large (2,000). I cannot find out how they gathered participants, however, and that does make a huge difference. If it's not completely random, that can skew the results. But, the results do stem with other surveys given.

Here's an interesting read on sex surveys and the kind of answers given. Now, this study is looking for the raw average, but it's because they weren't trying to measure the average of sexual partners, but under what conditions people were most honest about their sexual deeds:

researchnews.osu.edu/archive/sexsurv.htm

What's interesting is women who thought their answers would be read, reported an average of 2.6 partners, while the ones that theough they were hooked up to a lie detector reported an average of 4.4. Compare that to men who gave an average answer of 3.7 when they thought their answers would be read and an average answer of 4.0* when they thought they were hooked up to the lie detector.

*A .4 variation would be expected in a sample size this small. If it were a survey of say, 5,000, .4 would be too high.

Well, this is problematic when the most reliable studies have been traditionally thought to be face-to-face interviews.

To compound issues, men and women guesstimate differently. Men tend to just give a rough estimate, where women tend to tally the partners in their head, by name. This gives men a generally overinflated number, and women an either accurate or lower number (human memory is one of the most faulty things we have, afterall). ualberta.ca/~nrbrown/pubs/BrownSinclair1999.pdf

And that's just the basics, there's even more variables. The age at which you ask participants, relationship status, cultural and ethinc background, ect. And you have the bias of the people doing the survey to take into consideration. While they might not mean to skew the results, very subtle ways they word the question (even subconsciously) can affect the results they're given.

Another thing, when you're looking at surveys, you need to pay attention to the wording of the questions asked of the participants. Surveys that just ask "How many sexual partners have you had" or "how many people have you had sex with" are going to be inherently flawed since there's a huge difference of opinion on what counts as sex. A good study will actually indicate the sexual activity or activities that count as "sex" for the purpose of the study.

Ultimately though, when you look at good research, there's so many more myths than facts when it comes to sexuality (did you know, for example, that men in relationships with feminists report a happier sex life and get sex more often?). And a big part of this has been the decades of either flawed research, misinterpretation of the research by people that don't know how to read a study, and good old confirmation bias (we tend to ignore things that don't stem with our perception of the world).
WatWat   
4 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

Do you participate as well?

I've had a few poly relationships, mostly as a secondary partner but once as a primary. I should also mention, polyamory is NOT swinging. Swinging is about having recreational sex (often at parties or clubs, but not always), where polyamory is about having relationships. As odd as it sounds, swinging is much more about monogamy than polyamory in a lot of ways. A lot of swingers look at feelings and emotional attachments as a bad thing outside the core relationship, while that is the point of polymaory.

Sometimes you need to be careful when you kiss Polki.Not sure what comes to your mouth.

That's true for everyone everywhere. It's certainly nothing unique to Poland. Don't the stats generally come back that something like, 80% of partners are unfaithful? Well, and not to mention the fact that women generally have more sexual partners in a lifetime than a man (of course, getting accurate data is always a challenge, and there's generally lots of dispute among any findings). What can be said for sure, is the numbers of partners reported is going up for women and down for men. Whether that's due to more accurate reporting, women starting to embellish too, or actual changes in sexual attitudes, who's to say?

Anyway, that's probably more science than you were looking for. One of the dangers of talking to a sex educator. :P
WatWat   
3 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

While I've run into a Polish guy with several girlfriends, I have yet to run into one where the girls are aware of what's going on. And that's not poly.** Of my female Polish friends, 3 are actively in a poly dynamic now (as in everyone knows the arrangement).

**Now, keep in mind, most of my friends are female, so I don't have a huge sample size of men. Also, I tend to stay away from the "organized" poly community, so there could be boatloads and I'm just unaware. Ultimately, I think that just like with Polish women, there's a huge spectrum when it comes to Polish men. I've met some men who are quite secure with their sexuality and kinks and others who think doing it doggy style counts as a perverted and deviant act.
WatWat   
3 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

Poly relationships with other girls?

Depends on the person, but generally the poly folks I've run into here are hetero

Let me ask (on behalf of the OP), is there some way to Identify these particular wimmen? Maybe we could put a nice letter, lets say for example one scarlet in colour, on their low cut halter tops.....

Unfortunately, the "I shag strangers in bathroom stalls" T-shirt is no longer in fashion. I think the OP might just have to do it the hard was and talk to teh wimminz.
WatWat   
3 Jul 2012
Love / Sexually liberal ----- Is this a fact or myth for Polish women living in Poland? [61]

I would agree with Magdalena. I have people in my circle of friends who will under no circumstances have sex before marriage (and consider even kissing to be a Big Deal), others who are in poly relationships, others who regularly have one night stands, others who prefer one long term partner at a time (maybe or maybe not for marriage) ect, ect. Personally, I think Poland has a wider spectrum of attitudes towards sexuality than in the average country.