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Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

But surely all religion is just mumbo jumbo anyway, an opiate for the masses? I seriously don't think we need an endless debate on theology about whose religion is better at worshipping imaginery cloud dwelling deities.
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

The emphasis on loyalty to and pride in one's family and nation can't be any stronger.

Podolski, Klose, Truchowski, Wozniacki, Lisicki and Wozniak all represent countries other than Poland in sport despite being born in or having Polish parents. I don't see much loyalty and pride here.

I think your post is based on outdated thinking. Things have changed a helluva lot since the fall of Communism and there is a lot of individualism in Polish society now compared to 30 years ago.
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

I didn't mean individualism in a fashion sense lol I meant that more people will just tend to look out for themselves, even within families. We don't have the big family get togethers like we used to and no one stays in touch either, quite sad really.
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

You mean Christianity should be the foundation for our nation's morality and the family should be the basis for our nation's life? I seem to remember reading something rather similar to that somewhere, but I can't quite remember who said it.

David Cameron? John Major? George Bush?
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Anyone who is on Facebook can have a read at this facebook.com/groups/245613122187443/doc/268435676571854/
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Of course he is. Everyone knows that Jews are totally incapable of killing anyone and wouldn't dream of harming their neighbours.
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

He doesn't claim anything. He has compiled, from various sources, witness statements from people who witnessed Jewish people acting "rather badly" towards their Polish neighbours. I posted that in the interests of balance as Harry accused me of anti Semitism and he's always making statements about how badly Poles behaved towards Jews during WW2. Well, it takes two totango guys and there plenty more where that came from.

What some people can't seem to get their heads round that war brings out the good and bad in people - on all sides. Never have I claimed that Poles were perfect or total angels during WW2 but whenever I have defended my people against slurs and downright lies I get called an anti Semite and a liar. Well there was plenty of bad sh!t going on amongst the Jews during WW2 as well, you weren't the angels so many of you would have the world believe. You want to sling mud, fine, we can sling it every bit as much as you guys can. Personally I'd rather focus on the positives that pawian was trying to illustrate but there's always those who want to start finger pointing and playing the blame game. Well, if that's the way things are going to be I have a whole heap of ammo to play with so bring it on.
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
Love / Polish Wedding Venue near Krakow [22]

There's plenty of accomodation to be found in Kraków, does it really have to be all in the same place?
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

Polonius3:
Define anti-Semitism!

Singling out people who are Jews for special attention.

What kind of special attention? If it's derogatory and hate speech then I'd agree with you but if it's a fact that corporations, newspapers, film studios are owned by people of Jewish heritage who may also be practicing Jews then how can stating facts be classed as anti Semitic? If I say Israel is controlled by the Jews is that anti Semitic or am I stating a fact?
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Ah, now we get on to the semantics of numbers. I disagree, it was quite a significant number. Personally I think it was Polish citizens who were the main victims, I don't recognise religion so we'll have to dicuss numbers according to nationality.
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

Connotation? Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

Even if we do, we're the head and not the tail again.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't the "head" make the decisions and the tail does as the head decides? I have yet to see a tail that wagged the dog.
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

So were Poles

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Forgive me Pawian for your thread going slightly awry. I was thinking maybe a better thread title might have been What does Poland owe to Jews. You give some fine examples of notable Polish Jews who have contributed much in enhancing the reputation of our country, I am sure there are many more, and they should be honoured every bit as much as we honour the likes of Chopin, Sienkiewicz, Mickiewicz et al
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

Exactly; and PF will do little to nothing about the Anti Semitism,

PF does nothing about anti Polonism either. We have English, Irish, Scottish, German, Russian, even Norwegian polonophobes on here; would it be anti Semitic to say we even have Jewish polonophobes on here? Anyway, I digress, so, given the fact that this is supposed to be a forum to discuss all things Poland and Polish related and polonophobic posts are never removed, why do you think you are so special that you think that alleged anti Semitic posts or posters are removed?
Hipis   
3 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

I agree with delph, it makes no difference to me who owns what, I have better things to do with my time than research the ethnicity and religion of CEOs and major shareholders of large corporations. Now political allegiance, that's a different matter, I try and avoiding giving my money to those businesses who give huge financial donations to the British Conservative Party and the Republican party in the USA :D
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

Its obviously antisemitic to describe anything as Jewish owned because it implies that the owners are first and foremost Jewish rather than business people who happen to be Jewish

Don't see it myself. Anti Semitism is discrimination, prejudice or hatred towards Jews according to modern day definition of the word Semitic so simply describing a business as Jewish owned is not a statement of hatred nor does it imply prejudice or hatred. The only time I would define such a statement of ownership as being of an anti Semitic nature would be if it was spoken by someone who was already known for being anti Semitic eg David Duke.
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
Love / Polish Wedding Venue near Krakow [22]

So ideally you need to find a hotel with space for 100 with a function room but the ceremony could be anywhere with a traditional Polish "feel" about it but with a nice dash of romance for such a special occasion? Does it have to be in the Kraków area? Have you looked at Wieliczka salt mine? I know there's a few chapels there and I know they do weddings but not sure if they'd do a civil ceremony.
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

I never said it wasn't of any significance. I get fed up of people crying "anti Semitism" everytime someone says something that a Jewish person disagrees with. It is actually possible to disagree with and have an opposing opinion without being anti Semitic, racist or anti anything else for that matter.
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
Love / Polish Wedding Venue near Krakow [22]

Also, does it have to be a non religious ceremony/venue? There are other churches which aren't Catholic. krakow-info/religie.htm
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

He doesn't claim anything. He has compiled, from various sources, witness statements from people who witnessed Jewish people acting "rather badly" towards their Polish neighbours. I posted that in the interests of balance as Harry accused me of anti Semitism and he's always making statements about how badly Poles behaved towards Jews during WW2. Well, it takes two totango guys and there plenty more where that came from.

Harry, as you are totally incapable of reading and when you do you tend to read just what suits your own point of view I quote myself just for your benefit.
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

But it's hardly surprising to see you claiming that a laughable text is true, given that it presents the Jews in the worst possible light.

And how do you portray Poles? Here are a few examples:

From this thread

Just as Polish 'soldiers' from organisations such as NSZ hunted down Jews and murdered them.

From Jan 26 2010

Only a complete moron would fail to agree that Poland as a nation did fail its Jewish citizens between 1945 and 1989.

From Feb 19 2010

As any mohair beret wearing Radio Maryja listener will tell you: You have gas in your house?! Wicked child!!! Cold is God's way of telling us to burn more Jews!

From June 10 2009 Thread title started by Harry "Why are all Polish couriers/postmen either morons or thieves?"

A quote from another member May 5 2009

I would love to read something genuinely positive about Poland from you, please?

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I mean my comments to be made about the bigger more general topic. Titled "Harry only sees bad things in Poland".

See, nothing ever changes with you, does it Harry?

Don't quote from other threads.
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

I totally agree, the same in all societies, except whilst some of us can acknowledge this, there are some who refuse too see it because that goes against their blinkered agenda.
Hipis   
4 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

As I have said repeated, some gentile Poles were good, some were evil, some Jews were good and some were evil. What Poles owe Jews (and what Jews owe Poles) is to tell the truth about that simple fact and to neither try to white-wash the parts of history which are inconvenient for them or to overstate the negative acts by what they see as the 'other side'.

At last we're beginning to agree on something.
Hipis   
5 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Not really: I have always said that; you, on the other hand, recommend texts which contain utter bollocks such as "the Jews were like hungry dogs in front of a butcher shop" and "The Jews then played the role of a "fifth column." "

To be honest harry, you haven't always said that or we wouldn't be where we are now. I also recommend this article in Wikipedia:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skidal_uprising

Is that utter bollocks too?
Hipis   
5 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

There you go again Harry, the only defence you have when you get shown up to be wrong is to make unfounded accusations and hurl insults. Just goes to show how weak your arguments are if that is what you have to resort to.

The source as linked in the Wikipedia article is here

On this day the people of the town heard the radio information on the Red Army entered Polish territory. At the news of the local population created a lot of tension. The market has gathered a large crowd, which is like waiting for a signal to act. Suddenly fell cry: "Disarm the police!" In a short time a group of rebels led by the Communists - former members of a district organization of the Communist Party of Western Belarus - seized the police station, post office, power and disarmed and arrested in the current police officers and officers of the Polish Army. In total arrested approx. 15 officers led by Colonel. Zygmunt Szafranowskim, head of the District Headquarters Replenishment in Bialystok, who passed through Skidel carrying cash Grouping "Vaŭkavysk" gene. Przeździecki Waclaw, containing approx. 1.5 million. zł. On the same day the rebels tried to stop the car gene. Joseph Olszyny-Wilczynski, commander of III DOC Grodno, who was coming from Pinsk to Grodno. Here, however, were less fortunate. Gen. Olszyna-Wilczynski, having fresh in his minds off from saboteurs in the district of Slonim (September 17, 1939.), Accurately read the intentions of the rebels, and was not to be surprised. Seeing armed men on the streets Skidla ordered the chauffeur to this, regardless of the consequences, do not stop the car. So when the "insurgents" began to give signs to stop the vehicle, the driver increased the speed of "piercing the" through their cordon. Meanwhile, in a small town spread revolt. With the coming of volunteers formed a branch of counting - according to Soviet sources - approx. 200 guerrillas, which consisted of representatives of the Jewish proletariat, political prisoners released from prison in Hrodna and Belarusian peasants coming from the surrounding villages. Among others, master in action magistrate had to attend a twenty branch of Belarusian peasants, under dowództem former member CPWB Mikhail Pika, who came from the village of bullhead. Armed groups have been sent to the railway station, which is mastered. After the occupation of the station "insurgents" were able to stop and disarm the train filled with Polish soldiers. With this success, the rebels captured a substantial amount of weapons and train soldiers rozbrojonymi passed in the direction of Grodno. Another group under the leadership of Ilya Little Mouse - a peasant from the village Piesczanka, embarked on a truck in the direction of Lida, where marching unspecified unit of the Polish Army. Partisans possessed only ordinary rifles and a heavy machine gun. The meeting took place near the village of Sikorzyce, Lower Silesian Voivodeship. For the upcoming HR department had to speak Ilya Little Mouse dragging the soldiers to his side, while the officers and policemen were disarmed. During the described action shooting occurred several officers who resisted rebels.

kamunikat.fontel.net/www/czasopisy/bzh/07/07art_wierzbicki.htm

There is more than one reference to "Jewish proliteriat" as being actively involved in the insurrection against Polish forces. Try reading the entire article and not just the bit that suits your argument.
Hipis   
5 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Remind me which of us is saying that some gentile Poles were good, some were evil, some Jews were good and some were evil

That would be me and subsequently you decided to copy me when your lies and half truths are then challenged and backed up with evidence.

which of us is claiming that all Jews were a fifth column and all Jews were like hungry dogs,

Neither of us. Those terms were used by people writing their memoirs of their lives in Eastern Poland after the Red Army invaded on September 17th 1939.

You are the one who wishes to take the events in small town and use that to support the lie that all Jews were a fifth column in Poland.

Again, something I haven't said. I do believe it was you who actually "cherry picked" that line, firstly accusing the compiler of statements an anti Semite and subsequently me.

The anti-semitism of Hipis' posts is clear for all to see

Really? My Jewish friends don't have any problems with anything I post on here. The only person who sees anti Semitism and bigotry in anything I post is you.

Yawn. Better luck next time with that tired old lie.

I'm afraid you don't help yourself Harry. You have posted many things in an attempt to discredit Poland yet will only back peddle when challenged and you have been proved to be wrong or you have found to be economical with the truth. I posted a small sample of quotes from the archives, there are many, many more I could have used but you carry on Harry, at least I can back my posts up with evidence, links, peer reviewed studies etc etc I eagerly await the next round of discourse.

PS I forgot to post this classic backtrack from Harry. First he claims no mention of Jews but in his very next post when it is pointed out to him that there are several references to Jewish proliteriat in the body of the referenced work his classic response is
Hipis   
5 Jul 2012
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Those quotes were actually by John Morrison. He is not from Eastern Poland and did not live there when the Red Army invaded in September 1939.

Those quotes are not from John Morrison, like I have said time and time again, he compiled a dossier of work from several sources and posted them on that Facebook page. He may not have been from Eastern Poland but his grandfather was.

Could you perhaps post where I claim that the referenced work makes no mention of Jews?

1) I didn't leave out the statement, it was and still is there for all to see, apart form you of course. Selective vision?
2) Considering the length of some of your posts I don't think it is necessary to quote a whole post when it is very easy for people to scroll back and see your entire post from which I am quoting.

I have no need to misrepresent you Harry, you do a good job of doing that on your own