News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]


Don't see it myself. Anti Semitism is discrimination, prejudice or hatred towards Jews according to modern day definition of the word Semitic so simply describing a business as Jewish owned is not a statement of hatred nor does it imply prejudice or hatred. The only time I would define such a statement of ownership as being of an anti Semitic nature would be if it was spoken by someone who was already known for being anti Semitic eg David Duke.

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I agree with delph, it makes no difference to me who owns what, I have better things to do with my time than research the ethnicity and religion of CEOs and major shareholders of large corporations. Now political allegiance, that's a different matter, I try and avoiding giving my money to those businesses who give huge financial donations to the British Conservative Party and the Republican party in the USA :D

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PF does nothing about anti Polonism either. We have English, Irish, Scottish, German, Russian, even Norwegian polonophobes on here; would it be anti Semitic to say we even have Jewish polonophobes on here? Anyway, I digress, so, given the fact that this is supposed to be a forum to discuss all things Poland and Polish related and polonophobic posts are never removed, why do you think you are so special that you think that alleged anti Semitic posts or posters are removed?

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

So were Poles

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Forgive me Pawian for your thread going slightly awry. I was thinking maybe a better thread title might have been What does Poland owe to Jews. You give some fine examples of notable Polish Jews who have contributed much in enhancing the reputation of our country, I am sure there are many more, and they should be honoured every bit as much as we honour the likes of Chopin, Sienkiewicz, Mickiewicz et al

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

Connotation? Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.


Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't the "head" make the decisions and the tail does as the head decides? I have yet to see a tail that wagged the dog.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Ah, now we get on to the semantics of numbers. I disagree, it was quite a significant number. Personally I think it was Polish citizens who were the main victims, I don't recognise religion so we'll have to dicuss numbers according to nationality.

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]


What kind of special attention? If it's derogatory and hate speech then I'd agree with you but if it's a fact that corporations, newspapers, film studios are owned by people of Jewish heritage who may also be practicing Jews then how can stating facts be classed as anti Semitic? If I say Israel is controlled by the Jews is that anti Semitic or am I stating a fact?

Love / Polish Wedding Venue near Krakow [22]

There's plenty of accomodation to be found in Kraków, does it really have to be all in the same place?

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

He doesn't claim anything. He has compiled, from various sources, witness statements from people who witnessed Jewish people acting "rather badly" towards their Polish neighbours. I posted that in the interests of balance as Harry accused me of anti Semitism and he's always making statements about how badly Poles behaved towards Jews during WW2. Well, it takes two totango guys and there plenty more where that came from.

What some people can't seem to get their heads round that war brings out the good and bad in people - on all sides. Never have I claimed that Poles were perfect or total angels during WW2 but whenever I have defended my people against slurs and downright lies I get called an anti Semite and a liar. Well there was plenty of bad sh!t going on amongst the Jews during WW2 as well, you weren't the angels so many of you would have the world believe. You want to sling mud, fine, we can sling it every bit as much as you guys can. Personally I'd rather focus on the positives that pawian was trying to illustrate but there's always those who want to start finger pointing and playing the blame game. Well, if that's the way things are going to be I have a whole heap of ammo to play with so bring it on.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Of course he is. Everyone knows that Jews are totally incapable of killing anyone and wouldn't dream of harming their neighbours.

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

That's the same with all religions though. Judaism, Islam, all the branches of Christianity - it's all about control, rituals and hatred of non believers. It's the 21st century, we don't need this sh!t anymore.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Anyone who is on Facebook can have a read at this facebook.com/groups/245613122187443/doc/268435676571854/

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]


David Cameron? John Major? George Bush?

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

I didn't mean individualism in a fashion sense lol I meant that more people will just tend to look out for themselves, even within families. We don't have the big family get togethers like we used to and no one stays in touch either, quite sad really.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]


Podolski, Klose, Truchowski, Wozniacki, Lisicki and Wozniak all represent countries other than Poland in sport despite being born in or having Polish parents. I don't see much loyalty and pride here.

I think your post is based on outdated thinking. Things have changed a helluva lot since the fall of Communism and there is a lot of individualism in Polish society now compared to 30 years ago.

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

He also came from an anti leftist liberal viewpoint as well but no one seems to want to develop debate along those lines, they only seem obsessed with the religious aspects :)

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

But surely all religion is just mumbo jumbo anyway, an opiate for the masses? I seriously don't think we need an endless debate on theology about whose religion is better at worshipping imaginery cloud dwelling deities.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Maybe if he had written Communists of Jewish ethnicity who were enemies of Poland his comment would have had some validity but in the interests of not wishing to miss out on an opportunity to smear Poles and label us as anti Semites he misses out some vital information :)

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]


I stopped going to church when I was 17 yet it didn't stop me bringing my children up with a decent sense of morality and values but in a non-religious environment. If people feel they need religion as a crutch then that's fine by me but I can live a good life without some priest, minister, pastor, imam or rabbi lecturing me.

Travel / What is the ugliest city or town in Poland? [89]

I think Radom has been mentioned. My housemate has family in Radom and even he agrees it's a sh1thole :D

Travel / What is the ugliest city or town in Poland? [89]

I was there 6 days ago. The town centre is small but very tidy however outside of that it's just a typical small, communist style reconstructed town.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]


Yes, he should have written persecutor because that's what she was.

Travel / What is the ugliest city or town in Poland? [89]

It pains me to say it but I have to agree with gdyniaguy here. The advertising hoardings, the (lack of) planning, some of the paint jobs on the renovated blocks (yeeurggh). No lessons have been learnt from the Communist driven post war concrete block building spree. The headlong rush into capitalist post Communist era hasn't done anything to refresh the thinking of the town planners when it comes to development. The war and Communist architecture blighted many Polish towns and cities and it's going to take time and billions of Złoty to change things.

Back to the topic though. Chorzów is very grim; Płock outside the Stare Miasto is horrendous; Gdynia's only saving grace is the harbour area and Kamienna Góra; agree about Malbork, the town is a hell hole. I'm not going to nominate a town for most ugliest bit I'd like to nominate Poznań as the most disappointing place I've visited in Poland. Outside the Stary Rynek it's just a mad, traffic congested, big city. I was expecting something like Wrocław or Kraków but the Stare Miasto is small considering how big a city it is and I didn't find it as interesting or as nice as I do Wrocław or Gdansk.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]


We can't do that, that would be anti Semitic and everyone knows what a huge nation of anti Semites us Poles are ;)

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]


So all these religious wars between people who worshiped in different branches of the Christian faith don't count as human misconduct?

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

That's why.


The blindingly obvious reason being it's a historical fact.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

Communism is incompatible with any religion. How do you define Jewishness? Who knows? Is it a religion, an ethnicity or a nationality? I'm not a sociologist or a geneticist so anything I put forward as an opinion would no doubt be shot down by the amateur experts on PF. ;)

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov) although his maternal grandfather was Jewish, most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and -- as chairman of the Central Executive Committee -- head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. Lazar Kaganovich and Pavel Postyshev, who oversaw the disastrous collectivization of farms in the Ukraine whick led to the Holodomor, were also Jewish.

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]


serwisy.gazeta.pl/O_nas/0,111260.html

Write to them and ask :)

News / SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats [165]

I like Sunday without mass. It seems more and more Poles are beginning to feel the same as me. I also like left wing liberalism too :)