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Joined: 18 Jan 2012 / Female ♀
Last Post: 20 Apr 2012
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RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

whats good for the USA doesn't necessary is good for Poland

how did we start talking about the USA?

how is the inability to say anything you want good for any country?
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Love / Unmarried couples in Poland = pathology [310]

Yes the average cost is about $500.00.

LOL, so if you're divorced and swallow the wafer you face eternal damnation, but with only one easy payment of $500 you can buy your way back into heaven? wow, it's a bargain...

No one is telling anyone to do anything.

but people are... by expressing holy outrage at the life choices of others, you attempt to influence them and everyone around to follow your philosophy
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Love / Unmarried couples in Poland = pathology [310]

don't you think there is a difference between someone imposing their views on me, and therefore limiting my choices on whether or not to marry, and some pointing out the inadequacies of a piece of legislation?

bottom line, would you rather live in a society that tells you whether or not to stay single, or who to have sex with and when, and punishes you for talking crap about some pile of old stories? or in a society where you're free to choose, and free to say almost anything you want?
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

Initially the term - freedom of speech - has been connected with ability to criticize a ruler or a government.

it did start like that, and then it evolved because a lot of forward-thinking people saw that it is beneficial for individuals to be able to criticize other aspects of a society, including other people's beliefs concerning "holy" objects. again, you can't have free speech if your goal is to be inoffensive, and if you can't have free speech, can you have democracy?
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Love / Unmarried couples in Poland = pathology [310]

but you're wrong. other people's opinions do infringe on me. or used to, back in Poland. here nobody gives a rat's a$s.

i used to live in a small town, where everyone knew each other. living in an apartment building, we pretty much knew when our neighbors had an argument, who got drunk the night before, who bought a new sofa, who had "ogorkowa" for dinner... it was inescapable. living together without marriage would be a social suicide in an environment like that, because the constant gossip would make your life unbearable. i have a friend who still lives in Poland, in her mid 30s, and the whole building has a gossip summit every time she invites some guy to her own apartment! An independent woman in her 30s! not to mention that she is considered "stara panna," so that's just another good reason for all the neighbors to pick on her... she is brave enough not to pay attention to those old hags, but a lot of people are not, between the neighbors and the family pressuring them to get married, they just give in. all because people have some misplaced urge to voice their opinions about stuff that should be nobody's business. and now that you are married, god forbid you don't produce offspring within the first two years... another flurry of speculations about what is wrong with you...

yes, you may call it

ordinary people sharing ideas and expressing their opinion which may or may not influence someone

listen, i'm not advocating against marriage. i'm very happily married and it's important to me that we are married rather than just living together. what i don't want is others telling me what to do.
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

even the worst of districts in Polish cities during the nighttime hours are safer than the best of districts of Baltimore and DC in daytime hours

what is the basis for your statement?
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

she will never be considered Polish because of her obvious physical differences

poor kid... she is born and raised in a country, she never knew another one, but yet she cannot be accepted by her fellow Poles as one of their own - all because of the color of her skin and where her parents came from. and it all seems perfectly normal...
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

funny thing, how one can argue that a Polish-born person with Vietnamese parents is still Vietnamese but an American-born person with Polish parents is an American
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

There's no such thing ass real Americans

i can find, oh, i don't know, over a quarter billion people who would disagree with this

anyway, do you consider yourself Polish?
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

two vicious wars on her territory, went through several regime changes and was bankrupt in the late 80's

oh, cry me an effing river...

you are entitled to see the world as divided into the rich and the lazy, or to prescribing the age when people should get married, move out, have children, and buy property all you want. but you're not entitled to your own facts, and the fact is that that there aren't enough apartments or houses compared to the population. there haven't been for long decades, and nothing has changed. which makes people tied to where they live, it's more difficult to move and find a better job, invest in their own business, etc.

Easily available affordable housing allows for more flexible workforce, and for a more skilled workforce, too. Remember the "a car in every driveway" thing? That assumed that everyone HAS a driveway - again, affordable, easily available housing. And now that you have a driveway, you also want your own fridge, dishwasher, washer and dryer, and a new set of bedroom furniture... And then you want someone to come fix the shi*t, and buy insurance in case the sh*t burns down one day, and a vacation to get away from all this sh*t. Which means more people are buying more sh*t, so more people are needed to make more sh*t, so more jobs, more trade, more services, better economy all around...

but why do all that, when we can just call people lazy or have them wait till their 30s to have kids, for lack of space for the crib?
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

Hardly, he was born in Poland and speaks the language fluently.

before you give each other a wet one, D, why don't you remind PennBoy about the time you called Polonia traitors, particularly the ones with American citizenship.
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

their adopted country pisses all over Poland

i don't know dude. i'm telling you about simple economics and you're going all crazy a$s about TVs and how I'm pissing all over Poland...

more cheaper housing would not hurt anyone in Poland, and there is no reason why a working person in a developed country couldn't afford both comfortable living accommodations as well as TVs, vacations, and whatever else.
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

gone native

oooh... heavy stuff. where are you from, again?

it's not American economics, it's universal economics - demand for goods stimulates trade, and production, and job creation. in ANY country.

I'm not aware of most Europeans living in such living conditions as you describe.

you mean most Europeans don't have TVs? or disposable income? this is such bs, i'm going to skip that

where in Europe you can find "cheap, affordable housing".

it may not be affordable to Poles, but it is affordable to those who live and work in those countries, and I don't see a reason why there couldn't be any in Poland.
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

From what I've read

oh, so you read something? nice. i happened to go to college with someone whose entire family spoke nothing but Kashubian all day long and he would stick a fork up your a$s for telling them they weren't Polish... i learned some Kashubian from him, too. i taught him some Silesian. all the time unaware we were violating the rules of being Polish...
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

how poor Poland actually was in 1989

I lived in Poland in 1989, D. But it was 22 years ago, and the world moved on, so no point on harping on it

you're not making any sense. what is the problem? it's not physically impossible to construct buildings efficiently and quickly, it's not beyond human ability to promote competition and stimulate the construction business, and there isn't a shortage of land, either. why can't there be a larger supply of apartments or houses? because Londoners choose to live in the suburbs? is that your argument?

D, you're seriously looping. first you're saying people all over Europe can't afford TVs and vacations, now you're saying that they can, particularly in combination with nice cars, and all of this somehow makes you think that my family were non-achievers. wtf, D?
RoughFlavors   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

the money doesnt exist

1. but it does. you open a business, you borrow money, you make something/build something, you sell it at a profit, you pay off your debt. the key is to make opening businesses and borrowing money easy. that's where the government steps in.

2. so far there are far too few properties. more properties would bring the price to a level where people can afford them and developers can still make money on them, just like anywhere else in the world.
RoughFlavors   
23 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

So if someone leaves the country to make money and comes back to invest it in a business, are they smart or a greedy traitor? What if someone leaves for 10 years and then comes back? How about for 20? What if they don't come back but only send the money back home?

And when you leave Poland, when do you actually stop being Polish? When you get on the plane? When you get your immigrant papers? Are you still Polish after 5 years? How about 25 years?

I agree with Patrycja. It reminds me when people used to leave for Western Germany en masse, a few decades ago, and everyone here would talk about how they were disloyal, unpatriotic, or sellouts, but then everyone would kiss their a$ses to get parcels with candy and toys, and clothing, and whatever other crap they expected to receive, and would throw parties when the family "z efu" came to visit. It was this mix of envy and love-hate relationship, fueled by the myth of "easy live" in the West. And it's not just uneducated people who bought into the myth - three of my own teachers left for Germany, several of my parents coworkers - engineers and scientists, even two priests from our parish - lol, one of them a few weeks after delivering a sermon on how true Polish Catholics should not abandon the "sinking ship," which I remember pretty well because that Sunday happened to be the day of my First Communion. I see there is a lot of that love-hate going around about the US, too.

Bottom line, it seems like the question about who is Polish tends to revolve around "who to exclude from the definition," rather than "who to include." Which, sadly enough, doesn't surprise me.
RoughFlavors   
26 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]

As long as people keep posting on here that the average salary in Poland is 12,000zl per month and that Poland would be just fine without EU cash.

woot!
sorry for being a day late...

keep poundin', fuzz...
RoughFlavors   
26 Jan 2012
Study / Shocking! Test standards in Polish schools. [165]

^Particularly that English is one of the most useful things they can learn at school, and something they will definitely need to use later in life. There is a different between American teenagers learning Latin (admirable but not critical), and Polish teenagers speaking English, which is a necessary skill these days.