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Teffle   
16 Sep 2010
Life / Polish are some of the best educated in the world [35]

From what I can see Poles are well educated.

But best in the world? That's stretching a bit to say the least.

By what criteria or standards? Can't imagine a communist education was very balanced for a start.

Then you get on to 3rd level. Many here mightn't like this but from what I've been told (by Poles I hasten to add) cheating was and is widespread in Polish universities. By cheating I mean being advised the content of papers in advance, being more less told answers - that kind of thing.
Teffle   
17 Sep 2010
Life / Polish are some of the best educated in the world [35]

I have to agree, many Polish people are highly-educated. The majority of my family members have multiple college degrees, including myself.

LOL - are you serious?

Please tell me this is a joke.

OK then, Since all my family members and most of my friends have degrees and my mother has a doctrate, ergo, the Irish are the best educated in the world.

That's how it works - yes?
Teffle   
17 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / Why Polish people decided to move to the UK, and their experiences. [46]

Edward I think you are searching too hard for reasons and grasping at all sorts of tenuous possibilities. As others have said, money is and was by far the biggest motivation together with, as you say, the English language.

You mentioned the abortion issue? Ireland has very strict laws on this but it certainly hasn't stopped Poles coming here so I think you can discount that one.

Not sure about the minimum wage/farm & factory work thing - maybe it's the circles I move in but all the Poles I know are professionals: architects, engineers etc. Not sure how many migrants would actually fall into your category - not as many as might be assumed I'm guessing.
Teffle   
17 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

The moral of the story is that these businesses are cannibalizing their own markets. A flawed business model.

Very succinctly put.
Teffle   
17 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / Why Polish people decided to move to the UK, and their experiences. [46]

in Ireland it is 37000 euro

This is a somewhat overstated and distorted figure.

Even the term "average industrial wage" is close to meaningless.

There are 1000s upon 1000s of people who earn less than €37K.

Yes, wages are considerably higher than in Poland but I wouldn't take this 37K figure as an "average" by any means.
Teffle   
17 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / Why Polish people decided to move to the UK, and their experiences. [46]

Would you prefer and trust an article in a tabloid?

Err...no.

But strange you said say that as the Independent practically is one.

Look, even a cursory look at the CSO site will quickly tell you that the 37K figure applies to "large enterprises" - how many of those are there in Ireland? Not that many. This figure immediately drops to around 30K for smaller ones.

The construction industry earnings skew results crazily too.
Teffle   
19 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / Do East-Central European migrants in the UK differ? [16]

OK, I'm from Ireland but I'd imagine this would apply in the UK too: here, the majority of Poles that have arrived appear to be professionals (architects, engineers etc) whereas the majority of Lithuanians, Latvians seem to be labourers, cleaners - not out of necessity it seems, that's what they were in their home country too. From what I can see Lithuanians & Latvians seem to have ended up more ghettoised too where the Poles have integrated much better.
Teffle   
20 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / Poles and Irish, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [62]

I think there might be a little bit of animosity between the two nations since the siege of Dublin by king Sobieski in 256 b.c.

LOL - Yeah, we'll never forget that. Etched into the national psyche ; )

OP, I haven't heard many (if any?) Irish people complain about Polish people really if that's what you're saying.

I have some very good Polish friends here. I've heard a lot of positive comments about Poles generally. Frome my experience, the two cultures are similar in a few ways:similar oppressed history; similar sense of humour; similar attitude to what should be important in life.
Teffle   
21 Sep 2010
Food / I have a Polish couple coming over for afew days and would like to cook for them. [93]

I would cook Thai myself - it's easy and there is a good chance that they won't have had it before. Just don't make it too hot - IME Poles are not very accustomed to spicy food.

A Thai Green Curry is probably the new Chicken Tikka Masala anyway (which was in turn the new fish n' chips once upon a time)
Teffle   
22 Sep 2010
Food / I have a Polish couple coming over for afew days and would like to cook for them. [93]

BTW - what cut of pork is gammon exactly?

It's from the leg. It would be unusual to stew it. Roasting is nice - just treat as you would a ham. Otherwise, as you say, treat as you would a steak.

Beware though - gammon quality is hugely variable in my experience - it can be nice, but it can be an awful piece of cheap, rubbery nastiness too if you're unlucky. Occasionally supermarket stuff can be OK - but usually not.
Teffle   
22 Sep 2010
Food / I have a Polish couple coming over for afew days and would like to cook for them. [93]

roast lamb, it's not cooked over here ever, so it'd be a nice surprise

Dunno. A bit risky.

I've tried it on Polish friends - none of whom had had lamb before. Extreme reactions all round: half of them loved it half of them hated it. It's easy to forget that lamb has quite a strong distinctive tase and if you've never had it can be a bit much.

Personally, don't know how any could dislike lamb though ;)

Oh yeah, this time of year it will no longer be lamb anyway - unless you get NZ or something.
Teffle   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

And chocolate.

Oh dear. Oh no. Many admirable Polish achievements but chocolate is definitely not one of them. Aside from American & German, the worst I've tasted I'm sorry to say. Tastes like cooking chocolate.
Teffle   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

OK, so Wedel is the one then - can't honestly say if I've had it or not. Maybe I just had the sh1te stuff.

crisps, chewing gum, yoghurt...

What do you mean - that you can get lots of different flavours of the above in Poland?
Nothing unusual in that.

Jaffa Cakes are nice, but they are just orange, aren't they?

Well, not really. There are limited edition variations (e.g. blackcurrant, lemon, strawberry) and if you exclude actual McVitie's Jaffa Cakes, other manufacturers do all sorts of flavours regularly: cherry, raspberry, lime etc etc.
Teffle   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

To sum up Poland very succinctly and to paint a picture that many others will understand and relate to it is necessary to resort to stereotypes - as BB has done.

I don't think it's very easy to do otherwise. Some of the stereotypes may have truth to them but they are ususally inaccurate on a few levels. To be pithy, you must overgeneralise - unless someone wants to submit a thesis entitled "The Magnificence of Poland" ??

But knowing this site, someone probably already has ; )
Teffle   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

Poland is associated internationaly with 3 things:
1. pope
2. wałęsa
3. vodka

You forgot coal.

The list is now complete ; )

i've not seen hazelnut flavoured crisps

Nor have I, fair enough.

But watermelon, cherry, chocolate, passion fruit etc gum - yep.

Teryaki, poppadom, garlic bread crisps etc etc Dozens of yoghurt flavours...

I'm not being deliberately argumentative by the way - just don't see much unusual in what you mention other than the hazlenut crisps.
Teffle   
24 Sep 2010
Food / I have a Polish couple coming over for afew days and would like to cook for them. [93]

Hey - a classic!

What about roast potatoes? I don't think that's a big thing in Poland (is it?)

Proper roast potatoes (carefully selected spuds, boiled correctly first, roasted at correct temperature etc and with goose fat, seasoning etc) are absolutely unbeatable.

With that in mind, maybe a full-on bog standard roast is on the cards - beef, roasties, yorkshire pud etc?

Sticky toffee pudding for dessert.