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milky   
17 Jul 2010
Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]

A typical wage in Poland is actually closer to 3000 zloty a month.

Im talking net wage people cannot save their tax...
A teacher earns about half that, and the minumum wage is 8 zloty an hour. so if you earn 3000 zloty you are on a middle class wage, no???
milky   
16 Jul 2010
News / The chances for Warsaw to become capital of eventual Slavic confederation? [183]

What is it with people who are too cowardly to stand on their own two feet so that they have to regress into some absurd violent dogma like Slavic Nationalism..Maybe they are unemployed and lost and need something to cling to, but its real scary this racist uneducated view still attracts so many desperate people.
milky   
16 Jul 2010
UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]

well first Poland go bankrupt and we will see what it means to live like in Africa..

very true..
I visit Poland several times a year and i am amazed at the low standard of life there,and then you here all the spin about there being no recession in Poland compared to the rest of the world... Such b0llshit.
milky   
16 Jul 2010
Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

I would be interested in getting a reliable opinion on this.

You wont get it here for sure.

bitter individual

Lot of classic spin going on here, and all english speaking sites that are associated with Poland. Go investigate it for yourself...Stick to Polish language sites..
milky   
16 Jul 2010
Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

I was told by an agent

oh yea they will tell you the truth lol. The property bubble prices are just gone beyond the saturation point.

Its seems the general view at the moment is that average prices are more or
less stable

There is no such thing as a stable bubble.
milky   
16 Jul 2010
UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]

So tell how is it that I watch loads of tv series about young Brits being in depts because they cant just live without their exclusive clothes, exclusive bar and exlusive drinks... and still they are able to get out of great debts within 6-7 years if they just change their lifestyles. In Poland no one is afford to carry such reckless life so dont bs me about similar cost of life levels...

Very well said, its crazy when people so consistently fail to see this.

don't make it sound like we're all spoiled brats who have done it to themselves completely.

But it is true to a degree, i am sick over here in Ireland listening to people driving brand new 4wd Jeeps and going on holidays twice a year and claiming that they have no money,or people on the Dole with 6 children living on a gigantic social welfare and still crying that they are on the bread-line and that the Poles are robbing the country blind. They do not know(or seem to have forgotten) what it means to be broke or to be badly off. With the (Ireland)country practically bankrupt they will soon(very soon)

see what it means to live like a lot of other countrys in europe especially Poland.
The governments need to unerstand how-ever that "they" have a duty to rule their countries(and not the indusrialist) and not just to play games of swapping cheap-labour as it is only a short term solution and it will only lead to REAL chaos in the near future.
milky   
16 Jul 2010
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

Brendan Burgess, Founder, Ask About Money was on on RTE Pat Kenny Show 14th July
This guy(hypocrite) was on the radio on wed advising people on how to handle their major money problems in such hard times. He has just wrote a book(how to handle your money kind of thing lol) and people were ringing in, mainly all those people in the sh1t because they bought property during the bubble and now they cant pay and have not paid in months ets etc..

At the end of the show this "Guru" got a text from a viewer accusing him of encouraging the property bubble by closing down the debate on property prices on the askaboutmoney, website.

Burgess(who had huge audience) at the time of the bubble very very strongly encouraged people to join the property ladder before it got too expensive to get on. Now he has turned around to help people for money to fix what he helped create.

Anyway his answer to the critical text was basically, that the debate at the time was getting out of hand and a lot of people were using "bad language" so he closed down the debate.. Looks like we have these guys in Poland as well eh
milky   
16 Jul 2010
Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]

Well if you earn a typical wage of 2000 zloty a month and you rent or have a mortgage,,After food,bills, beer and clothes (forget about children). I d say you would have roughly about no savings what so ever.

Unless you still have money you saved while working in the west.
milky   
15 Jul 2010
UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]

Polish families must be very disappointed in their own children if they work in a shop, or as 'bin' men, bus drivers, 'manual' labourers, or any other 'perceived' low esteem jobs?

In Poland its so f0cked up, you probably need a degree for these jobs, even a Masters.
milky   
14 Jul 2010
Work / Wage and Salary rates in Poland [37]

.teachers in public schools in Poland would be earning 300 euro per month :O

Yea this is a fact, I personally know 2 teachers in Lublin and this is about what they earn.
I know several people with degrees earning less than 100 euros a week and they are not

failures

Its simply a very badly run country and life is hard. There may me money in the country and some people driving around in fancy cars but a hell of a lot more people live on the bread-line. As for the black-economy im not sure but here in Ireland its rampant and the Dole here is is three times higher than what a Polish teacher earns.

Its funny how all the gold members on this site seem to think the average Pole is loaded. Its as if they are trying to paint a positive picture in order to attract naive property investors for their quickly de-valuing property.
milky   
13 Jul 2010
Work / Wage and Salary rates in Poland [37]

Mark Beernut seems to be name the straw-men use to describe everyone who disagrees with the shype.
milky   
13 Jul 2010
Work / Wage and Salary rates in Poland [37]

but I think the stats found online are grossly inflated.

Pure tactic
Yes that is the case for sure, its all tactic to try and fool the people that all is well even though the living standard is sh1t. Even on this site people are always jumping in and claiming that Poles are making a fortune and that things are much cheaper there,when the truth couldn't be further.
milky   
11 Jul 2010
Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

How do you expect them to know the realities of your "average" working family in Poland?

The thing is a lot of these people just don't want to know, so they can remain focused on what their ignorance perceives as wrong.. They could easily find out but their too clued into the lives of Posh and Becks etc and which celeb got the latest tit job.

sort of like these people
metacafe.com/watch/834847/are_americans_really_that_stupid
milky   
11 Jul 2010
UK, Ireland / Polish immigration in UK [491]

Hitler did have the right idea,dumbass churchill let our country down.

Do you go on about women all the time to your friends, but not so deep down you crave for a big well hung man. If so be strong and go get that man and leave the BNP.
milky   
11 Jul 2010
Law / Poland's going forward while Britain is still trying to wake up [86]

Ok so now I understand you are talking about renting a 1 or maximum 2 room flat (probably horrible.) So you would have 4 people sleeping in the living room/bedroom, maybe people like this should think a bit before having kids.

I think some people especially on this forum think that the Poles are just second class citizen of the EU and those greedy developers could not care less as long as they make profit. Let them buy their clothes in cheap supermarkets etc and go search for cheap food bla bla bla.what a neck.. Life is really hard for average families in Poland full stop.
milky   
10 Jul 2010
Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Why Dell moved its production? Only because of financial reasons.

exactly.. They had to pay anual salary of 37 grand in Limrick and in Poland 7 grand..Alsa the majority of work was unskilled even a momkey could do it.

There's plenty of people in the UK living on 20 pounds a week.

they are in poverty as well so, but its alot more common in Poland, so common that they don't even realise how bad it is. If you are on your own with that money ok but with a few mouths to feed well thats pretty bad.

I have a brother on the dole here and when he pays his rent and bills at the end of the month ,he still has about 700 euros to spend on food and beer.
milky   
10 Jul 2010
Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Robbed money? LOL.

Thats the way alot of people think here,Seanus this is not my opinion,I 100% think this is nonsense. The Irish have been emigrating constantly especially since the British caused mass genocidal Famine in 1845 onward so the Irish are hypocrtites when they cry about the so-called unwanted immigrants.

T

Did they bollox! It wasnt it was built on multi national companies setting up business there - when the tax breaks ended they all flocked off to pastures new..Poland being one of the destinations!

I agree the Poles were a speck of sand in the whole Celtic Tiger crap.
milky   
10 Jul 2010
Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

have about 300zl to last them the month and they get by fine, just have to be sensible.

Sensible is an under-statement that sounds like blatent poverty to me.. The funny thing is over here in Ireland im am constantly told by irish people that the Poles are living like kings now because they robbed money from the west and that they are the only country not in recession bla bla bla. They are so far removed from the actual economic situation for the average Pole in Poland.
milky   
10 Jul 2010
Law / Poland's going forward while Britain is still trying to wake up [86]

I think its more to do with the fact they are prepared to pay a higher percentage than most other peoples toward a mortgage or rent.

Prepared is the wrong word i think you mean forced. I have close friends and family in Poland and they are just living under sh1t circumstances and see no way out..They are not prepared.
milky   
10 Jul 2010
Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

if you don't like something, then get off your ... and do something about it.

By contradicting the dominant view point/lie flowing out of here, IS doing something. I will not join any party because they all end up just lackies of the free market.

Real-estate is a gigantic problem in Poland that is crippling the majority, so it needs to be discussed rationally.

Prices of property in Krakow will not drop very much now...even in used properties.

Thats your point, so ok im a democrat, i will accept your opinion, however my opinion is that it will keep dropping until it reflects the salary of the actual Polish people working there.

The mentality of Poles is that they would rather have an empty house/flat on which they have to pay rates/media...than let it go for a reduced price.

This property bubble is only five years old so how can you speak in such generalisations about the mentality of the Polish people. The people on this site who are holding back with their super inflated prices are not Polish ehhh!!

Anyhow i will sit back and watch reality evolve, not my predictions.
milky   
10 Jul 2010
Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

've heard that millions of people manage to survive from day to day -

Million of people survive everywhere even Mozamboque what your point?

you somehow in the deepest corners of your soul do not like Poland

I spoke out very loudly against the bubble in Property in my own country since it began,so does that mean i dislike my own country??

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

We get your message loud and clear

who is "we" the developers??bad news buddy im talking to everyone so ......
its all shype, and I adore Poland and its people and look forward to the day it is not hijacked by developers,
I think somewhere not so very deep down inside you know people like me know that you are just a car-sales man

or car-sales woman i mean..
milky   
10 Jul 2010
Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

There's obviously not much activity.

For the last year practically no activity what so-ever except for the ultra niave buyers(who are getting fewer and fewer) who believe the staged hyped weekly reports that the market has bottomed out. If the property prices(prices at the moment) are bottomed out, the wages in Poland would have to had at least quadrupled in the last 5 years. The prices are based on Poles earning in the west and foreign investors etc etc..It all a load a shype.