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Posts by EsotericForest  

Joined: 6 Sep 2009 / Male ♂
Last Post: 14 Jul 2011
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EsotericForest   
20 Nov 2010
Genealogy / DNA Testing in Poland. Is it popular? [81]

Go on then, prove it using DNA tests.
Or I will continue to believe you live in a fantasy world ;)

I can't prove it with DNA testing because I don't have ANY matches haha. Some of you Poles should start getting tested so I can prove it with DNA ;).

I do have Birth records on the other hand that can get my back to my great grandparents on my grandfathers paternal, and maternal side...both of which trace back to Poland. As far as the paper trail, and word of mouth can prove...I have about as much proof as a person can get to say that I am at least half Polish.

And now let's be serious- are you really interested in your ancestors from 11th century? It would be nice to know that but just as some kind of curiosity. And btw- DNA test are only showing you some traces and don't tell you anything really important.

I think it'd be very interesting to get back to the 11th century, and why stop there? You have to remember that I'm one of those people who will, by his own choosing, sit down and read a history book...especially if it has to do with European history. It's not just about finding my 30th great grandfather, it's about learning the stories that go along with the names. Every person has contributed to the world in some form or another...some have left a larger mark than others, but none the less, they've all left a mark of some kind. The paper history of census records, birth records, marriage records, as well as the written stories about the people are just part of genealogy and history. You also have the history that runs through every persons own body. We all have DNA that can date back thousands of years so some man or woman who had their own unique story. Then you also have the visual art of history in heraldry. The coats of arms that were passed down from father to son, and were either kept the same, changed slightly, or even quartered to include the mothers paternal heraldic device. There are many elements of history, and I think they're all interesting.

DNA doesn't stamp out my family tree out for me. I still have to do some work to figure that out, but none the less it will give me genetic cousins and that's how you get your answers. It's a team effort for sure to use DNA to your advantage, but when done right it can make connections that you would never find, or take a very long time to locate.
EsotericForest   
21 Nov 2010
Genealogy / DNA Testing in Poland. Is it popular? [81]

It only gives you an idea about what group of people share similar DNA

I never said that it did say anything about the stories. There's a lot of tools used in genealogy, and DNA testing is just one those. But simply but, it's only a tool, not the key to the mint. You have to utilize the DNA as best you can to find the information in the paper records. It's an assistant, not the answer.
EsotericForest   
21 Nov 2010
Genealogy / DNA Testing in Poland. Is it popular? [81]

DNA tests are good when someone doesn't know their paper records.

Just another tool, as I said before. A lot of us are fortunate enough to have a family Bible sitting in our grandma's house haha
EsotericForest   
21 Nov 2010
Genealogy / DNA Testing in Poland. Is it popular? [81]

There isn't an exact Polish gene, but I would say some genes are more common than others, so one could argue it's a gene with Polish tendency.
EsotericForest   
27 Nov 2010
Genealogy / DNA Testing in Poland. Is it popular? [81]

Except a lot of us are so mixed it doesn't even matter. I look like my mom, which means I don't even look Polish. Chances are I look French.
EsotericForest   
2 Dec 2010
Genealogy / Valentine Stolarz, Anna Banas, Jacob Mastej, Francis Bil [30]

What would be the best way to demonstrate I'm related to Walenty? A copy of my family tree and maybe a scan of my drivers license to prove my identity?

Alright so I'm prepared to write an email to the parishes in Biadoliny. I now have my own birth certificate, my father's, and my grandfathers. So I now have documents that prove I'm the great grandson of Walenty Stolarz. Now what I need to some assistance in composing a letter to them, as well as suggestions on what I should be asking them for. I would appreciate any help I can get.

Through microfilms of birth and marriage records, and tracking down family stories, I've pieced together at the very least that Valentine (Walenty) Stolarz, and Laurence (Wawrzniec) Stolarz, were the sons of Andrew (Andrzej) Stolarz, and Marianna Chrapusta. I know that Laurence had a son named Joseph Stolarz, who was born 15 Mar. 1889 in Biadoliny Radlowskie. I also know he had a daughter by the name of Karolina Stolarz. I found out about her due to a letter I found in an old cigar box, that she wrote to Joseph Stolarz. It was written in 1924, and explained that she would more than likely be getting married after the harvest, and that she needed money for a dowry. She also mentioned that her fiance had been away, due to him being in the army. Unfortunately no name is mentioned, and so far I haven't been able to find out who she married.

As far as the Chrapusta's go, it showed that Marianna was the mother of Valentine Stolarz. When I brought the maiden name to my grandmother, she also remembered a John Krapusta, who used to pick mushrooms across the street from her house. She couldn't remember exactly how he was related to Marianna, but she remembered that he was. It appears his parents names were Joseph and Mary, and they lived on Dearborn Ave. Hammond Indiana, according to the 1920 census.

I'm posting this information mainly in the hope that something will jog another researchers memory. Possibly being a descendant of Karolina Stolarz. Or somehow being related to John Chrapusta, and knowing more about his ancestry.

Another reason I'm posting this is that I've attached a scanned copy of the workbook I found for Joseph Stolarz. it shows is father as Laurence on the lower right side of the page. However something that was also pointed out to me was that on the lower left part of the page, it is signed by a Chrapusta. What may the significance of that be?
EsotericForest   
14 Jul 2011
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [639]

Well my DNA test seems to be pointing me in the middle eastern/Jewish region of the world, so I'm sure that I have some paternal Jewish ancestor somewhere back there.