Food / The first cheese was made in Poland? [8]


...before Poland - this land was nothing but land - apparently inhabited by "cheese making" humans. There is nothing to suggest that these "cheese making" humans moved away - but remained on this land - so therefore technically they are Polish - as this land is now Poland - and has been nothing else previously. No other earlier evidence of "cheese making" humans has been found so therefore - they are assumed as "first" ;)

Food / Origin of the pierogi [118]

We will never know. End of.

...Poland eats piclked Herring and Sweden has Wodka due to the Swedish invasion of Poland about 500 years ago...

Travel / Ryanair travel by air - subtle scams to be wary of [98]


...only in your world does it cost £60 to print one piece of paper which takes 20 seconds...

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [395]


The Warsaw uprising was the second betrayal by the allies. Warsaw was re-taken by the AK. The AK fulfilled their role.

The allies (mainly Russia) did not support the uprising and therefore it ultimately failed. It's simple.

To illustrate the will and passion of the Poles - It took the great 'Wehrmacht' TWO months to crush it...

...and all this time the allies just stood by and watched...

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

Americans and English are quite arrogant (especially English) they go to foreign countries and expect the foreigners to speak English - and make them feel small. Subconciously - I think this kind of behaviour is due to envy - because Poland has rich culture - honourable military history (just look it up) integrity and soul:-

Home
Where the fields are green
The woods are clean
My soul serene

Poland was betrayed and sold off after WW2 after contributing so much (including Enigma code) Under Communism for 45 years it has become poor and naturally people want to leave. It does not mean they are not proud of their country. It's just basic survival. I have met many American/Pole and English/Poles visiting Poland who are very proud. Some want to live there. It's mainly the German population of America that initiated/spread Polish jokes because they lost the war and blame the Poles. Most Americans naturally assume America is the only place to be/think about and do not think of their roots. Some do not know where some countries are. Poles that go to America for good are usually young or stupid or both. They soon realise that America is 'Not all that' and get depressed. Same in UK. The grass is not always greener. I know many Poles who returned to Poland and are getting better pay and more importantly - better quality of life. This does not mean having lots of money. Money is not everything. Communism in Poland was designed to brain wash the population - subtly and slowly. To make them alcoholics. To make them ashamed.

People who are now under the age of 30 - their children will be the first 'clean' generation. The first generation who will be independent, inspired and mentally free of the current brain washed mentallity.

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [395]


Lets face it - you cannot verify the facts you have. We will probably never know. The fact is - when you send troops - however well armed - into narrow street warfare - tanks and bombs are inaffective - and casualties will start to mount. The Poles were on home ground for 2 MONTHS.

They were organised. Can't remember which German Soldier said that Warsaw was the perect example of CHAOS and that the fighting was worse than Stalingrad.

My collegue has spent a loooong time filming interviews with surviving Polish AK fighters - and lets just say that - they know - they know what they did. :):):):):):) (back atcha)

Home
Where the Fields are Green
The Woods are Clean
My Soul - Serene

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

Someone mentioned that Bratwurst Boy was not here anymore? That's a shame. Got noone to wipe the floor with now :(

Throughout history Poland has stopped Russia having it's way with Europe and stopped the Germanics having their way with Europe (not to mention the Swedes, Muslims and Gengis Khan) Both Russia and germany have a chip on their shoulders about this and in recent history got a little of what they wanted in WWII by ganging up on Poland. Even then Poland stopped them. (Yes - I know the allies eventually joined in) Poland just wants to live in peace with both neighbours but they - just - keep rocking the boat. What you gonna do?

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


...sensible? ... or was it incompetence - and just plain arrogance - resulting in 1000's of casualties.
Also, traditionally in earlier wars - the soldiers would walk to the enemy because it was more civilised and orderly. Maybe Haig was a traditionalist or maybe he just forgot the Jerries had machine guns and just may have survived the bombing in their 'underground bunkers'?


..discipline? ... or was it by enslaving 1000's of Africans in the slave trade - plundering Asia of it's spices and minerals while subjugating and killing it's people?

(Formation flying was only effective for bombers becuase they could protect each other)

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

It's not how many you have - it's the quality of the ones you have.

History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]


When you exit the trenches - you will walk to the enemy - not run!

Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]


George Friedman knows something you don't


Yes - I know that - which is why I was dreading Poland adopting "Western Ideas"


I was not being smug - I was being ironic. There is a difference. Maybe you are just jealous?

Those EU subsidies helped to pull Poland out of 60 years of dark ages after she was sold off to the soviets in 1945.
Those EU subsidies merely got Poland a decent foothold - to BEGIN playing catch up with the west.


Another example of Poland adopting "Western Idea". Poland has learned from the west that parking tickets - right or wrong - are a great way of raising money. The parking wardens are above the law/make it up to suit themselves and there is nothing you can do about it. Just like here in the UK. I could tell you some spectacular parking ticket stories from London - where I've been at MP's front doors complaining about outrageous fines - and they agree they are outrageous but what can you do? It's a Mafia - and now it's in Poland. 10 years ago you could park anywhere - the FAK you wanted - and not wardens. Poland will be just like the UK soon. I'm surprised you have not picked that up yet...

Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]


Polish growth last year 4.5%
UK growth 0.01%

LOL


...what...you mean decadence, gang warfare, political correctness madness, health and freaking safety,
getting fat on junk food, rat race, selfishness, greed, no social cohesion, polution, low quality of life, honourless,
over industrialation, over populated etc. But don't worry - it's getting there. The fooking hoodies have arrived! - gilrs
are getting fat and starting to behave like tramps in the street on weekends, the boys are getting cocky etc Poland
has lost it's innocense.


...there you go.

During the Warsaw uprising in 1944 - the Poles decided to fight for freedom and what they THOUGHT was the right thing to do.
Because of that decision - 250,000 civilan men, women and chidren were butchered with no mercy.

People over the world later said that they were WRONG to do that.

Right or wrong - FOOK you.

From the Warsaw Voice Magazine:- you must be missing a trick

Poles the Happiest Nation in Europe: Report
Polish people are more satisfied with life than the citizens of any other European country, according to a survey by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

The survey covered 39,000 households in 34 countries from Britain and France to Albania and Ukraine. It found that in Poland, the effects of the recent financial crises were felt by less than a third of respondents. In other postcommunist countries, the figure averaged 70 percent.

Fifty-four percent of Polish respondents said they were confident their children would enjoy more prosperity, 5 percentage points more than in the bank’s previous survey from 2006.

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [395]

Lyzko


No bubble here - just crossed lines. The enemies from within (your definition) are irrelevant here. I was referring to enemies that had a direct effect on the direction of Poland's destiny. The enemies surrounding Poland - yes - they EVENTUALLY stopped the uprising. The enemies from within had no known effect on the duration or effectiveness of the uprising. Of course there were the individual squealers, probably German sympathisers, the tortured, the mentally ill. Can you give one reason why any REAL Pole in 1944 would voluntarily betray his country (except for those reasons I just mentioned?) The Germans knew what the Poles had planned but were not sure if/when it would happen. A few days before the uprising a Polish woman after TORTURE, broke - and told the germans an uprising was due. Even then they were caught of guard.

THE UPRISING WAS SUCCESSFUL - THE CITY WAS CLEARED - BUT NO OTHER ALLY TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO HELP AND OF COURSE - THE UPRISING WAS BUTCHERED!


so when then - when the Germans were stronger before the Ruissian advance?
After the Russian advance when the Russians would have been stronger?
You don't know what you are talking about.


Could you possibly sound more patronising? The only fault of the AK leadership was to stupidly assume that their ALLIES (including Russia) would actually have the balls to help them. But they were alright JACK!

PS The uprising was not a military exercise. An uprising is a group of occupied/enslaved desperate people attempting to free themselves. The Polish military assited the uprising as much as they could without being discovered. An uprising is not a counter-attack - it is not an offensive. It is simply people - rebelling.

Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]

When McDonalds first arrived in Poland 99% of females looked amazing and slim.
I saw all those children lured into McDonalds.
I said - in 5-10 years, half of those kids will be fat.
Now they are. Simple.

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [395]


There were NO enemies from within Poland that sold out the resistance - if thats what you mean?

History / Sabaton 40-1. Poland WW2 (updated with: Uprising) [39]


You just blurt out crap without any reference.

They boasted about how they could stand up to Hitler and were not affraid of his attack.

no personal comments. thank you

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [395]


I assume that you are very young? Your lack of knowledge and understanding of this whole issue is at minimum - annoying. So Mr Hindsight - lets go back a little. Only 25 years prior to these events, Poland freed herslf (with the help of NOONE) from 123 years of Russian occupation. Poland did not exist for 123 YEARS. Poland defeated the RED army in 1920 and made herself free. Many people vowed that they would rather DIE than return to that humiliating and degrading existance. Polish people were both proud they freed themselves and had honour. The ability to do the right thing in the face of adversity. Not to sit back and wait - wait for someone alse to come and do her dirty work for her. Like Paris for example. Oh save our beautiful city - Paris had to be saved with the blood of american soldiers - together with other allied forces. Remember - the first person to commit suicide off the Stalin Tower in Warsaw was a French man - becuase he deemed it a more HONOURABLE place to die than the Eiffel Tower. During the war it was clear to Poland that the allies were not keen to help - because they were scared of upsetting Stalin THAT WAS IT. Scared of upsetting stalin. The Russian army was 'resting' on the east bank of the Wistula becuase it was waiting for the Poles to eventually be beaten by the Germans. They lasted 63 freaking days against the germans. How much time does it take to get help? But help never came - AND THAT IS THE DISASTER that Warsaw suffered. The complete inhumanity of it all. The Russians could have helped - but no. The allies could have helped - but no. Poles, who would rather die fighting than be taken again by the Ruissians, did what they did becuase they did not really see any other way out. Who was out there willing to help? Both Germany and Russia CLEARLY wanted Poland dead...and all you can do is sit back in you comfort zone and criticise. You don't even know you are born.

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE?
That's it - we'll wait! Let's just wait and let them kill us all like cowards. LOL
The cavalry will SOON be here"! LOL

I'm sure you probably would have curled up in some corner and cried like a baby.

Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]


More girls in Poland are - and will be getting fatter. Genetic disorders do not just materialise en mass.

Processed food manufacturers are at fault. GOD damn them all to hell.

Love / Sigh... Polish girls have such pretty eyes. [51]

W T F

Work / Why is Polish workmanship so bad? [52]


...what - drinking a bottle of water and pretending it's vodka for a laugh?...


...if you compare Poland to the UK 'Today' - then that's what you see

...if you compare Poland to the UK in '1939' and '1945 to 1989' - then any person with half a brain could work it out. If not :-

...do some freakin reasearch about Communism/Poland and how it f*cks you in the head.
(yeah I know - you can't be bothered)

Asside from that - you get cowboys in every country.

Love / Sigh... Polish girls have such pretty eyes. [51]

At the end of the day - you are dealing with a woman. It does not matter where you are from. NOONE freaking knows if she does or doesn't. If she turns you down, it will not be because you a Korean - but because she doesn't like the colour of your shoes! She will flirt with you until the cows come home - and when you ask her out - she's got a boyfriend. You are alone. You have to find out in your own way - however that happens. However - if you are very good looking - no problem, she will be all over you - until that is she realises that you have your own mind and you don't agree with everything she says. If you are a spineless push over - bingo! Happily ever after. Have you seen Ground Hog Day? This would be helpful :)

History / Sabaton 40-1. Poland WW2 (updated with: Uprising) [39]


In 1939 a large percentage of the german army was horse drawn.
Both germany and Poland had cavalry units. Poland used the cavalry to attack german
infantry with success. Battle of Krojanty - Polish cavalry defeats german infantry advance.
Later after the battle german tanks arrive. An Italian journalist sees some dead Polish horsemen
and writes how brave the Polish were to attack tanks on horse back. And so the historical slur
was created - spread by Russians. Lots of WWII history is bollocks in the same way.

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

Soldiers do have a certain honour. After war, they are able to meet and talk because to a certain degree they respect the other soldier/apponent etc. However, young people are still bitter because the civilian murders, torture, humiliation, material distruction can not be forgiven. In Poland's case - 6,000.000 - and they did not ask for it. Give it a few more generations.


..NOT BOTH! Firstly - they have to go to work there (econmic reasons) because their countries are still recovering from mindless German destruction and communist regression and were not rebuilt by the allies so they could pay for their sins yada yada ... and secondly - one of the unfortunate side effects of working far away is that you have to live there aswell. Can't have everything.

News / Warsaw is the natural capital of Europe, not Brussels [67]


...no joke :)


1775: the Polish astronomer and cartographer Szymon Sobiekrajski declared the Polish city of Suchowola (53°34′36″N, 23°6′6″E) to be the geographic centre of Europe.
A large rock still marks the designated spot.


...Astronomer Kopernicus told the world we revolve around the sun.
...Astronomer Sobiekrajski told the world Suchowola is central Europe.

Sobiekrajski was the first declaration. The others all came after and could not accept that this
sh**ty little town in God forsaken Poland was in central Europe.


...notice they do to even acknowledge the Astronomer Sobiekrajski. They don't say he was wrong - because
they just can't take it. The Austrians are much more worthy apponents to discount. Also, it had to be
Dresden - the culture capital - becuause no little sh**ty town in middle of knowere would be GOOD enough! Lol.


...at night


...fraud - all ya good for

To finish:-
Suchowola - centre of Europe.
Any other monuments for other claims?

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News / Warsaw is the natural capital of Europe, not Brussels [67]

youtube.com/watch?v=SoHh34Cm51w

The new Warsaw City centre

News / Warsaw is the natural capital of Europe, not Brussels [67]

Future Capital of Europe.

youtube.com/watch?v=SoHh34Cm51w

The new Warsaw City centre

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News / Warsaw is the natural capital of Europe, not Brussels [67]

The exact centre of Europe is just east of Warsaw. A huge rock marks the spot.
Warsaw is the most central city in Europe.
Warsaw was completely destroyed in WWII (95%). The communists had the first chance with a blank canvas - but fecked it up by producing a pile of shite.

Now this pile of shite is slowly being transformed into a mini New York. Every brick and steel beam is thoughtful - designers flock from around the world, scientists meet in it's many peacefull parks.

Almost every developed country is investing in prime - down town bomb sites - building inspired office buildings - apartment blocks. After 20 years the very centre of warsaw is still a bomb site. Undeveloped. they are thinking carefully about how best to develop this.

It will be developed together - with all european designers, architects and it will belong to Europe. All of Europe will have an interest in Warsaw. This is how it will evolve. Warsaw due to it's distruction now has a unique chance to rise - and rise for all of Euqrope.

Berlin has been rebuilt - but too quickly - with thier own money and it's dull, monotonous and insular. It's not really an inspired or interesting place.

There ya go. Easy.

UK, Ireland / Poles in the UK, you know were the door is [102]


...the ripples of trauma have been passed down the generations - and young people feel obliged to remember.
ask any none bias historian if you are too thick to know what I'm on about.

...the brits abroad :) now theres a topic.

Go to Krakow and tell them you are a stag party from UK. LOL

Brits go there with zero respect for anything. Their arrogance is spectacular.

The arrogance of this thread is also spectacular. How dare anyone slag off britain. We are perfect angels and don't deserve such behaviour. LOL

History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]

The communist - IDEA - is actually quite good.

Every one earns the same amount. All public services, transport and entertainment are free.

There will be no cases of local councillors or BBC exectuties earning 2-3 times that of the
prime minister for doing feck all. No football players making 80K a week for kicking a ball ( not
even that in some cases) etc

Communism failed because of human greed and paranoia. The people at the top started skimming and became
corrupt.

News / Polish people humiliated in the latest episode of Family Guy [51]

It's like a boxing ring. A ring of insults.

It depends how how many rounds you have been in that ring.
How many times you have been knocked to the ground.
How many stiches you have to your eyes.
How much blood has been soaked up from your face.
How many taunts you have had from the crowd

In the first few rounds - you can take the punches - yeh no problem. And again. And again.

Poland is in the 12th round. The slightest jab now begins to hurt.

The manager is brainwashed. The ref has been paid off.

PS - these programme makers are cowards. They make fun of people and hide behind the pretense
that "oh - it's only comedy" and rely on the fact that others will laugh at you for taking it seriously.