UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


Forgive me, but this all seems a bit strange to me. Someone was rude to you in a bank? An employee of the bank? So you just ask to see her manager and you complain that she was rude to you. That is how it works here.

Nobody said there was no racism in the UK - there is everything in the UK. Of course Poland is breathtakingly racist, and it is also fairly common to be treated pretty rudely in Polish shops, as I remember. But when I lived in Poland, I simply observed this. It wasn't my place to complain, or so I felt.

You choose to be here, I guess, so there must be something about the UK that attracts you. What?

UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


Well, that explains it. And a lot more, i'm sure ; )


Kysia, I'm sorry, but where to start with you?
You seem to have a massive problem with the UK. Or perhaps you're just doing a very well-educated thesis on some of these issues, and this is your research?

And bugger off with 'no Brits speak Polish'. I do. And I can assure you that I have a veritable armoury of offensive language at my command.

Not that I choose to use it. (well, not yet) (go on, push me ; )

UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


why you are always talking about sex ; )

As for our Polish lady,

- she might be just a mad psycho-Polka with a giant chip on her shoulder, mightn't she?

UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]


i know this is going off at a tangent, but what is it with that? lots of my polish friends can't swim - especially women - they express a wide-eyed kind of fear of water - which i guess one would do if one couldn't swim ... (phew, at least there is SOMETHING i can do that they can't!)

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]

master:
i do everthing for her she has no bills to pay has a car she can use and i give 400 a month to spend she call me names i dont no what to do

swap her for me

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


am very nice ... polish women think i am stupidly nice ... they can't understand why ... polish men tend to like it, although they feel a bit like they have been transported to a parallel universe ... one where if they drink too much vodka, someone strokes their hair and gives them water and says 'oh you poor darling ... you must stay in bed all Sunday and i will make you feel better', instead of making him sleep on the sofa while throwing all of his things out of the window, including all the gold jewellry he has given her to try to make her happy (but she never is ...). buy me a packet of polos and i am happy for a month : )

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


it makes sense. £100 an hour for sex, or £5 an hour for cleaning toilets ...

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


Such as?

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


? dumpier as in shorter, or thicker as in stupider?
I thought the Greek govnt invented Demothiki in the early 20th Century ...
I did speak it. Quite well. And yes, it was v easy to learn. Only 4 cases. A breeze : )

My Polish man was concerned that i might be getting too many calories from sperm. Has there been any research on this?

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]

oh yes .. dumb of me ; )

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [512]

Two children, one ex-husband, one ex-mother-in-law, one current partner and family, and a natural suspicion of prawns (although I can overcome this - Poles, it seems, cannot) (or not the ones I know).

And a lot of friends.

Went out to teach English in Poland on a 2-week contract, and decided it was too interesting a place to suss in just 2 weeks, so stayed for 2 years and returned home with booty husband. And the rest is (a rather chequered) history ...

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


it absolutely directly related to how much sex they are getting. women who are having sex twice a day simply don't get fat. reduce that even to something miserably standard like twice a week, and hey presto ... at least a stone fatter each week. not sure if it is because of the distress, or boredom, or lack of exercise. important in such cases to supplement with strenuous activity such as an hour's swimming every morning. sex warmer, though.

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]

then you must be very rich and excellent at time management.


I did think about the calories - important to offset any high-calorie drinks with energetic activity.

Actually, seriously, there is some theory about the health of the ... how shall i put it ... most inner sanctum of the female body. It needs regular bathing in the appropriate fluids in order properly to regulate the health of the whole body. Apparently. And only when it is getting enough of what it needs will one's metabolism be operating ideally. Now if that isn't a medical imperative for large amounts of sex, I don't know what is. Sex is Health. In Victorian times women of a 'nervous' disposition were discreetly deemed not to be getting enough sex, and were sent to special 'doctors' who met their needs, shall we say. They would suddenly perk up, develop a new spring in their step, shed the pounds and have a permanent rosy flush to their cheeks. What an enlightened era! Such a sad decline in the health service in recent decades

: (

Love / My husband is Polish and I was wondering why he drinks all the time. [66]


sorry - the answer is 'because he is Polish'. that's what they do. it's cultural.

after a few shots, try serving him water instead of vodka - he might not notice the difference ... oh, or tell him that he is beginning to smell, that he snores and that he looks like a tramp. polish guys are usually quite vain as well, so it might stop him.

Love / How to please Polish women? [216]


see below


ah! a guaranteed method of pleasing at last! doesn't just work on polish women ... works on all ... i have developed a v good memory for numbers ...

Life / How Polish are you? [74]

omigod. just scored 85%. that means i am totally polish apart from not having polish mother or father. just goes to show what living in a house of poles can do to you ... they have taken me over. mind you, there should also have been a couple more questions:

For women

1. How clean is yr bathroom?
2. Do you consider a size 8 fat?
3. Have you eaten anything in the past week?
4. How often do you throw all of your partner's belongings out of the window, and/or make him sleep on the sofa? (daily/weekly/once a month/once every three months)

For men

1. How many prostitutes have you visited in the past month?
2. How many secret families/children in other countries do you have?
3. How many teeth have you got?

Love / Are there Polish women who date black guys? [281]

everyone seems to be getting a bit upset here. back to topic:
polish girls like black men because they are exotic, out of bounds and have big dicks (probably). if they have lots of gold chains and a bmka too, all the better. simple. end of thread.

Love / Are there Polish women who date black guys? [281]


bmw, preferably substantially pimped (as in 'stary, pimp my ride')

exotic as in other, different, and decidedly un-Polish

it is the reaction of Polish girls who have been brought up to serve wife-beating potato-eaters. they go for wife-beating jamaican-jerk-chicken eaters instead.

(that was of course a joke and i don't mean to suggest that either polish men or black men only eat those things) (but will leave the comment about the beating ...)

Work / Teaching English in Zakopane, is it safe? [45]

i am sure you will be absolutely fine. i am really sorry that you have to worry like this, but honestly, zakopane has a lot of tourism and i'm sure lots of different nationalities are seen there all the time. it is a beautiful place and that has brought people there.

i can't believe it isn't safe. it isn't like east germany in the 1980s. it is totally different. and some poles might blow hot air about people who are different from them, but i think in reality they are very welcoming. that is my experience (seeing they interact with people of different races in my house).

it will be great. don't worry. look forward to it. if anything, you will seem exotic and they will all be after you ; ) and remember all the kids are brought up on mtv and there is a high african-american representation there ... you will be like a pop star.

Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]


i think that the occasional physical reaction is not seen as totally unacceptable, in the way i think it is in my culture (english). and certainly whacking kids is seen as aok.

i guess there's a downside to a very physical culture for men.

of course nobody here can give a definitive answer based on statistics, as everyone's opinion is based on a relatively small sampling. but put it this way .. i have heard that 'oh and now he never sees his kids ... they got divorced ... he drank ... he beat her up ...' more times in the past few years of being with Poles than ever before (before it was just something i occasionally read about in the papers).

to be honest i think it is more the vodka, and the frustration, and the prescriptive male culture, than anything else. i would risk saying that i think, from my experience, there is more lashing out among Poles than among my (fey, intellectual ; ) English friends ...


you wish ; )

Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]

1. plastic wc seats that are so light they flap up and down when you open the bathroom door

2. extraordinarily depressing built-in wardrobe-drawer units in mahogany plastic that cover a whole wall to 2.5m height and are adorned with icons and nic-nacs and that everyone (young and old alike) considers 'very smart' ...

3. that white sky

(3.a. that white sky the morning after a Polish wedding and a lot of vodka) (mind you, there is usually sex to cheer one up, it being Poland)

Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]


well, sex does cheer one up
and somehow sex in poland is better than sex in england
blimey no idea what kind of hang-ups in me that touches upon ... ! am not going there ; )

Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]


you got it
yes, actually that is the most aggravating thing about poles
it makes me want to kill them with my bare hands (sometimes)


they are too fat. they would fall off

UK, Ireland / Polish woman in the UK gives birth then leaves the baby in hospital [28]

couldn't it be that her crazy jealous mad vodka-fuelled married lover killed her, as she gave birth rather than aborting the baby??

just a hunch.

Love / What do foreign women think of Polish men? [120]


wow. where do i start?! at least one novel, if not three, required to explain you guys.

firstly, my credentials are reasonably strong for being in a position to have an opinion. i will say that i have two children, and their fathers are both Polish. trust me, that counts as a close encounter with the species. ok, only two test cases, but pretty in depth study ... and, of course, a host of satellite males have also been studied (purely platonically, i hasten to add ; )

ok. one big whopping thought: whatever, despite everything, all serious character flaws and crazy traits that they may have aside, i prefer polish men to most others (that is of course a generalisation, but in general, that's my opinion ...).

why? because (omigod everyone will now hate me) they are more ... real. somehow. don't know how. more raw. more flawed, maybe. more charming, usually. less reasonable, often. better at changing lightbulbs, always.

too many thoughts on this. will contribute more tomorrow.


this also often true, but lovable ones ; )

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


so when people say to me 'you speak great English' (because my Polish speaking is so convincing they think i am Polish) ... then i really REALLY should feel good?

is a bit like when they won't sell me alcohol because they think i'm too young
is the sort of compliment that makes you feel like there is one big bouncy castle somewhere underneath you

i have learnt/dabbled in Latin, French, Italian, German, Greek (modern) and Spanish, and yes, Polish is way the hardest. way the most fun, too, though ...

Marek2010
but all of them - this is what they are thinking

i know - they (you) are extraordinarily sly. it is a sort of cultural defence mechanism. my lying skills have soared since i began conducting my life in Polish. this language has eroded my morality. i feel myself saying and doing things i have only seen people doing in war films ... (the ones where they either got caught, or are trying not to)

Love / How to show a polish Guy I like him [56]

he is polish, and a guy

That means he is like a guy only double it

so don't show him you are even the slightest bit interested in him

if you start being nice to him, or, God forbid, say you love him, then he will lose respect for you ... unless, that is, he hasn't had sex with you yet, and/or you are very rich.

ok, ok, i know that is only certain (Polish) guys. but seriously. don't be so daft - if he is being cool, don't do the girl thing and think that means he's shy and/or waiting for the green light. no. he is Polish, after all. if he wants to jump you, he will, no doubt about that.

so be as cool as you can and don't think he needs to hear about your feelings. he doesn't. not until he is truly in love with you.

(jeez but i am jaundiced, non?!)

Love / Inside polish women's psychology and mind [109]

I would imagine Polish women are going through a similar revolution (albeit in a v minor way) as Western Europe in the 60s/70s. It is a kick-out against a very traditional, repressive (to some) culture where the woman is only valued as a woman if she is a perfect mother and home-maker. Children are sometimes used to tie a woman to a home, keep her quiet (tired) and within her role. This way she doesn't threaten the male: she cares for him and the children. He has little involvement in the more arduous aspects of childcare (washing, cleaning, getting up in the night, etc.) - he goes to work in the morning, comes back to his tea (as they would say up North in England - another bastion of similar culture ; ) and then relaxes. He may play with the children for a little while, but soon hands them back to their mother.

The mother shoulders 99% of the practical responsibility for the children, and it is a matter of honour (or has been made so) that she doesn't need help from anyone else - and certainly not the man. She would not be a proper woman if she couldn't 'dac sobie rade' with her children (and home/man). She does have a lot of influence in the home, and general rules the roost, but she is also a workhorse. And, should she ever really step out of line or ask too much of her husband, she may well get the back of a hand to show that she has overstepped the mark, one evening when she has 'driven' him to drink ...

And yet, while she still has no children, the man will be as good as gold, because he needs her, to create his family, and therefore continue the progression of his status in life.

Any wonder some women don't want kids?

OK, a slightly angled view of things there, and some generalisations, but I challenge anyone to prove there is not a kernel of truth. : )

Language / Can you recognise the nationality of foreign Polish speakers by their accent? [43]

ok, yes, there is an odd thing here.

i am English. i can listen to any English native speaker and, like someone said, tell you within a radius of max. 70 miles what area of the country they are from.

i speak with someone whose English is great but not L1 and of course i know in nano seconds that they are not English. and i can usually hear a Pole a mile off.

now, i speak Polish. well, apparently. and Poles either think i am genuinely Polish - yes - or that I am Polish but at some point migrated to the UK and got vaguely Anglicised. They don't say I am English.

weird, no? weird in that they can't immediately tell, however good my Polish is, that i am a fake ...

Language / Can you recognise the nationality of foreign Polish speakers by their accent? [43]


you are very welcome ... although not sure what for ; )


Maybe unfair on you Poles ... but it is true that some other native speakers have possibly more neutral ? an accent, or foundation, and can therefore morph more convincingly into other accents. Their native accent doesn't intrude so much. I do know v high-flying Poles with near perfect English, but they still sound Polish. I know Dutch people, though, who I would honestly think to be native English speakers who've spent a bit of time in the US or Ireland. They have a very slight drawl. But their accent is amazingly good. I don't know how good they are in Italian or French, though ... and Poles DO have good French accents.

OK: maybe it's this: different languages have different compatibilities (eg, Poles have an accent in English, but not so in French; Dutch v lucky in English, but not so in Chinese; etc. ? an idea ....)