tomek
21 Jun 2008
tomek
21 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Turkey is a big country and not everybody supports the new reforms. Many desire a more religious-conservative goverment. Pull a line down, east of Izmir, Bursa and Istanbul - in the west you'll have openminded people who are more openminded then the migrants we have experience with, in the east you'll have poorly educated peasants and islamists.
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Turkey is a big country and not everybody supports the new reforms. Many desire a more religious-conservative goverment. Pull a line down, east of Izmir, Bursa and Istanbul - in the west you'll have openminded people who are more openminded then the migrants we have experience with, in the east you'll have poorly educated peasants and islamists.
tomek
21 Jun 2008
History / Poland's King Jan III Sobieski - the stopper of Turkish Janissaries! [64]
Kings were elected in Poland by the aristocrats - at its peak 20% of polands inhabitants were aristocrats (12% is the average number mentioned in history books I think)
Intrigues after Sobieskis death led to a powershift away from the Poles resulting at the end in seperation for 123 years - the Sejm was allways influenced by foreign powers in this time. The French were no saints in this, for exmple even Sobieskis wife, a french aristocrat, opposed her own son becoming the next King of Poland.
Also Austria and Russia historic enemy the Turks were weakened and both had spare military power left. And instead of invading Turkey for a change or forcing against it at least, they took Poland apart...
What did Poland learn out of it AGAIN and not for the last time?
Not to trust anybody.
We should not forget - be aware of our roots - and not become germanized, europenized or whatever.
hmm very strange he became king with election....
Kings were elected in Poland by the aristocrats - at its peak 20% of polands inhabitants were aristocrats (12% is the average number mentioned in history books I think)
HAH Sobieski wanted to stick to French
Intrigues after Sobieskis death led to a powershift away from the Poles resulting at the end in seperation for 123 years - the Sejm was allways influenced by foreign powers in this time. The French were no saints in this, for exmple even Sobieskis wife, a french aristocrat, opposed her own son becoming the next King of Poland.
Also Austria and Russia historic enemy the Turks were weakened and both had spare military power left. And instead of invading Turkey for a change or forcing against it at least, they took Poland apart...
What did Poland learn out of it AGAIN and not for the last time?
Not to trust anybody.
We should not forget - be aware of our roots - and not become germanized, europenized or whatever.
tomek
20 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
You know, while Poland was divided for 123 years the Ottoman leader had left a place spare at his diplomatic table for the Polish representative to return. THIS WERE NICE TURKS. They even titled Sobieski as the "invincible lion from the north" after he destroyed their armies. They should not forget it!
Now Turkey stays a potential threat but a honorable enemy. In times of peace it can be a good business partner - but under current circumstances many prefer to stay out of their way as the migrants in Europe destroyed the once noble picture we had of them.
So Finns and Hungarians languages have been influenced in the past by the old noble ottoman empire - great for you. And even better both tribes have white skin and their women do smell like ours. They are acceptable visitors, wifes and husbands.
You know, while Poland was divided for 123 years the Ottoman leader had left a place spare at his diplomatic table for the Polish representative to return. THIS WERE NICE TURKS. They even titled Sobieski as the "invincible lion from the north" after he destroyed their armies. They should not forget it!
Now Turkey stays a potential threat but a honorable enemy. In times of peace it can be a good business partner - but under current circumstances many prefer to stay out of their way as the migrants in Europe destroyed the once noble picture we had of them.
'Fenno-Ugric' languages are in fact related to the Turkic
So Finns and Hungarians languages have been influenced in the past by the old noble ottoman empire - great for you. And even better both tribes have white skin and their women do smell like ours. They are acceptable visitors, wifes and husbands.
tomek
18 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
My Vote: NO
One of the problems with Turks is that our opinion of Turks is biased by those Turks who allready live in Germany, Netherlands, England and other european countrys since their birth. Turks I know from Turkey are "better". But how much better all things considered?
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7108607.stm
I was shocked that after the missionaries were killed one heard the townsfolks of the town it occured in saying, that they to some degree supported the murderers.
There is a strong nationalism in this country and I doubt that the majority agrees to enter the EU - both is good for them, but would be a threat to Europe. And most of the turks that will then leave their country will be Turks from the east and not those from Istanbul or Izmir.
My Vote: NO
One of the problems with Turks is that our opinion of Turks is biased by those Turks who allready live in Germany, Netherlands, England and other european countrys since their birth. Turks I know from Turkey are "better". But how much better all things considered?
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7108607.stm
I was shocked that after the missionaries were killed one heard the townsfolks of the town it occured in saying, that they to some degree supported the murderers.
There is a strong nationalism in this country and I doubt that the majority agrees to enter the EU - both is good for them, but would be a threat to Europe. And most of the turks that will then leave their country will be Turks from the east and not those from Istanbul or Izmir.
tomek
17 Jun 2008
Travel / Why does everyone seem to hate LOT Polish Airlines? [380]
Did anybody realize how ceratin type of Poles like to complain about anything that is polish-made, like his car, boiler and other technical stuff. It is a kind of humor - like having a friend whom you like to banter with.
Did anybody realize how ceratin type of Poles like to complain about anything that is polish-made, like his car, boiler and other technical stuff. It is a kind of humor - like having a friend whom you like to banter with.
tomek
13 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Why starting such a thread? Isn't it obvious what most Poles think of them?
The migrants have no willing to adjust to our norms - bring their own coulture and habits and contaminate our lands with it. They kill their sisters who date ouside turkish comunities. They gang together and destabilize the parts of towns they inhabitate in larger numbers. They sell crappy drugs which endanger the health of our youth.
New problem is that much money in Turkey has been made by migrants in Europe - the Turks in Turkey are averagelly more educated and less religioulsy radical than those peasants from anatolia who left turkey in the last decades. This new power brought into Turkey led to a weakaning of the secularistic government in Turkey.
Why starting such a thread? Isn't it obvious what most Poles think of them?
The migrants have no willing to adjust to our norms - bring their own coulture and habits and contaminate our lands with it. They kill their sisters who date ouside turkish comunities. They gang together and destabilize the parts of towns they inhabitate in larger numbers. They sell crappy drugs which endanger the health of our youth.
New problem is that much money in Turkey has been made by migrants in Europe - the Turks in Turkey are averagelly more educated and less religioulsy radical than those peasants from anatolia who left turkey in the last decades. This new power brought into Turkey led to a weakaning of the secularistic government in Turkey.
tomek
13 Jun 2008
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
PolskiZolnierz = tomek
I registered - so you should know I'm the PolskiZolnierz here.
PolskiZolnierz = tomek
I registered - so you should know I'm the PolskiZolnierz here.