History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

Hi, tricky jon357 from behind the cover!

This is the point, you have felt yourself to be bitten! Let it be... Yet, this is the view which constitute you...
Short advices from the country of logic:
1. Somebody's views you are able to observe are always somebody's, and you will never been sure if they are
his own or other people's. But it might happen, that especially you - will be sure!
2. "Sobieski" in quotes can read so far, I hope, everything at this forum.
3. I am very glad that you are so agile to notice, that Sobieski won't read my reply. Also yours.

By the way, let try to get back to the matter of this thread.

Have a good night!
Andrzej Konstantynowicz

History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

To EyalOlmert and Lyzko15 !

There is nothing common among many nations or "ethnicities" in Europe. Similar names are of medieval origin
because of troubles with transliteration of self names at medieval monastic monks writing diaries or rather annals.
This is the source of exonyms, xenonyms,ethnonyms and toponyms (and, maybe - nymphs?) from the linguistic point of view.
The name "Lusos" is related with the adjective "Lusitanic" related in turn with today Portugal. You can read exhaustive article in Wikipedia.
The name "Lusatian is related with called different way "Sorb tribes" which having lived at territories briefly depicted in the map 133 / 5747.
The name "Sorb" is not related with the name "Serb", although sounds akin, and although these both tribes were and exist so far as Slavic.

I guess, that you have been known this simply facts through past two years. This is only a puristic addendum from me.

Sincerely
Andrzej Konstantynowicz

History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

To Crow123

There are not one reliable explanation of the origin of the name "Serb" and "Sorb" up to present days, although discussion started more then 2000 years ago.

During this huge period of time there were no lingustics as a separated field of human knowledge, but human ear always have catched similar sounds.

Today we know how deceptive these similarities could be. A good example is Wikipedia article "Origin hypotheses of the Serbs", pointing out this sound-based
theories. Even "Sarmatians" starting this thread one can find in this article! Akin of this concerns are that of origin of the "Galatia" name in Minor Asia,

fortunately less biased with political burden.
Yet, it has always been curiously to make astonishing conjectures, at the end - what better pushes ahead our knowledge than curious conjecture!
Exemplary, now in mathematics the Collatz Conjecture is one of such topics.

Regards
Andrzej Konstantynowicz

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To all of you! You are wonderful! I am so glad reviving this discussion!

The subject, on slightly wider basis than only Slavic roots in Europe, is very interesting, and, in my opinion, very important, especially in so called modern world seeking its roots.

Let take into account India. One friends of my, Indian mathematician very strongly involved into the history of his homeland, years ago had turned my attention to some astonishing facts from this history and, as the mathematician, some illogical statements and conclusions of so called "Oxford historians". They simply have "sticked" two rulers named Chandragupta for to make Indian history slightly shorter! It has not been possible for them to admit that such a "barbarian" country possess so long history! After differentiating this two rulers, everything goes back to the right position and there is no longer gap in a timeline between Mohenjo Daro civilization and "pure Indian" roots and... achievements.

After all, the Indo-Europeans and Slavic tribes had gone out into the wide world from the exactly same place north of Caspian sea and south of Ural mountains, the very specific region, very important for Cro Magnon human beings.

Regards
Andrzej Konstantynowicz

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To Ziemowit8.

Recently, I have observed the same type of behaviour at so called "expants". I have an acquaintance from my pub, Muslim, living in Poland from more then 20 years, even married here. But lately, seems to be driven by TV propaganda, he has started to express some strange opinions on me, our collegues, Polish people, situation in Poland an so on. Nobody of us in the pub prosecute this man, and it seems that he feel herself very unhappy exactly from this reason - it is very hard to stay martyr without prosecution. Nobody of us in the pub can understand this situation. A few months ago, during "night talkings with beer in the background" I've heard from him, that this opinions and attitudes have been announced to him during some special meetings in Warsaw with the "old and esteemed men" - may be even "Sheikhs". What to do when meeting such a situation? Is there anybody who know how to dam such a stream of hatred?

Regards
Andrzej Konstantynowicz