Tran Anh
31 Jul 2007
Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]
This name-grapping is absolutely heinous, guys. Go get a life!
This name-grapping is absolutely heinous, guys. Go get a life!
Tran Anh
21 Sep 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]
You are too right. Yet it is both a positive and negative trait...
Possibly the Polish police recognize that a new Poland urgently need a heavy dose of intense and ruthless pragmatism from those VietNamese! (just joking!)
In future, if Polish speak Indian, that is disastrous!!! Though a nice dream does happen when they speak Esperanto or any international non-national language.
Because they can just so easily blend into the background
You are too right. Yet it is both a positive and negative trait...
the police never ever hassle them
Possibly the Polish police recognize that a new Poland urgently need a heavy dose of intense and ruthless pragmatism from those VietNamese! (just joking!)
In future, if Polish speak Indian, that is disastrous!!! Though a nice dream does happen when they speak Esperanto or any international non-national language.
Tran Anh
25 Sep 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]
It is not a disaster if Poles learn Indian just like another foreign language. However from what I interpreted from Michal's and Polson's posts, I though the latter favored Indian as a world dominant language out of 'naive liberalism'. I am probably badly mistaken.
I happen to know something about Poland and a little about India, and CULTURALLY I think Poles are very different from Indians (with the exception of the jet-setting businessman class, who are practically identical all around the world). That Poles are intelligent, IT-well-educated, hardworking (which is a reality) makes no solid ground to your claim that Poland and India have a lot in common (other than to praise yourself inordinately). May be you should enlighten me by making a CLEAR list of things that Poland and India both share (please no more general adjectives like intelligent, honest, honorable, chivalrous... that everyone in the world can claim without a blush!)
Though I believe that it is only possible to judge a person's honesty and patriotism after his death, I have to step through this cloud of unqualification to say that I agree with you. People ought to stay in their homeland to help it to the best of their ability and the more talented they are, the more resistant to the foreign temptation they should be (The age of true internationalism may be too far for a 'reasonable' dream).
However, sometime not necessary out of idealism, but out of simple human feeling, I just wonder how you should react to a kind of people (that is millions of them around the world), who through no fault (or very little ones as any of us) of their own, have to live a horendously miserable life in their own country without any hope of improvement. Immigration is the only way of survival, will you deny them a place in your neighbourhood?
Anyway, the interesting thing is no matter how you feel and react, it is impossible to stop immigration into Europe. The richer a country is, the more morality its politicians have to claim to justify its affluence. As long as some African and Asian countries are disintegrating and still massively reproducing, there are always more and more people will try everything to get to Europe. You try to stop them because you are annoyed (and confused), they come because they need to survive. It is obvious who is going to win. And even when the annoyance turn into fighting for survival, that is already too late. The only way to get out of this vicious circle to make all countries a little more equal, but that may well be a dream too far.
Why is it a disastour? I don't understand why you think it is so terrible for Polish people to learn languages other than European?
It is not a disaster if Poles learn Indian just like another foreign language. However from what I interpreted from Michal's and Polson's posts, I though the latter favored Indian as a world dominant language out of 'naive liberalism'. I am probably badly mistaken.
I happen to know something about Poland and a little about India, and CULTURALLY I think Poles are very different from Indians (with the exception of the jet-setting businessman class, who are practically identical all around the world). That Poles are intelligent, IT-well-educated, hardworking (which is a reality) makes no solid ground to your claim that Poland and India have a lot in common (other than to praise yourself inordinately). May be you should enlighten me by making a CLEAR list of things that Poland and India both share (please no more general adjectives like intelligent, honest, honorable, chivalrous... that everyone in the world can claim without a blush!)
It wasn't my intention to be unfriendly towards Indians (or Asians in general).
Though I believe that it is only possible to judge a person's honesty and patriotism after his death, I have to step through this cloud of unqualification to say that I agree with you. People ought to stay in their homeland to help it to the best of their ability and the more talented they are, the more resistant to the foreign temptation they should be (The age of true internationalism may be too far for a 'reasonable' dream).
However, sometime not necessary out of idealism, but out of simple human feeling, I just wonder how you should react to a kind of people (that is millions of them around the world), who through no fault (or very little ones as any of us) of their own, have to live a horendously miserable life in their own country without any hope of improvement. Immigration is the only way of survival, will you deny them a place in your neighbourhood?
Anyway, the interesting thing is no matter how you feel and react, it is impossible to stop immigration into Europe. The richer a country is, the more morality its politicians have to claim to justify its affluence. As long as some African and Asian countries are disintegrating and still massively reproducing, there are always more and more people will try everything to get to Europe. You try to stop them because you are annoyed (and confused), they come because they need to survive. It is obvious who is going to win. And even when the annoyance turn into fighting for survival, that is already too late. The only way to get out of this vicious circle to make all countries a little more equal, but that may well be a dream too far.
Tran Anh
27 Sep 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]
Iskra, what a girl! Alright, I agree that I have been more sarcastic than normal but Iskra, look at yourself, do you realize you are little bit confused?
Based on my humble experience, I do not trust anyone's claim for anything just and noble as long as she still boasts that her nation, race...is the most (or among the most) intelligent. That is the very attitude so easily transformed into racism. Well, you may say you are a cross-race Polish-Indian, thus exempt from racism, but who know lurking deep inside such a proud heart there is not a strong contempt for a certain "lesser" nation, like Belarus or Bangladesh?
I do agree that you should be proud of yourself and your country (thus projecting well the pride into your success in life), but proud to the point of claiming (or wishing?) that your country is the most (or among the most) intelligent, which is the most prized human quality, is simply too 'grandious' to be a 'good girl'! Judging from your posts (I apologize for my assumption), I think rather than sharing an idealistic megalomania of a certain Mr Hitler, you are just a little confused. May be a little time of meditation with good music will cure it.
Anyway, peace?
Iskra, what a girl! Alright, I agree that I have been more sarcastic than normal but Iskra, look at yourself, do you realize you are little bit confused?
Based on my humble experience, I do not trust anyone's claim for anything just and noble as long as she still boasts that her nation, race...is the most (or among the most) intelligent. That is the very attitude so easily transformed into racism. Well, you may say you are a cross-race Polish-Indian, thus exempt from racism, but who know lurking deep inside such a proud heart there is not a strong contempt for a certain "lesser" nation, like Belarus or Bangladesh?
I do agree that you should be proud of yourself and your country (thus projecting well the pride into your success in life), but proud to the point of claiming (or wishing?) that your country is the most (or among the most) intelligent, which is the most prized human quality, is simply too 'grandious' to be a 'good girl'! Judging from your posts (I apologize for my assumption), I think rather than sharing an idealistic megalomania of a certain Mr Hitler, you are just a little confused. May be a little time of meditation with good music will cure it.
Anyway, peace?
Tran Anh
29 Sep 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]
The situation of those VietNamese is very complicated. They, as their numerous kin in Hungary, East Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, Russia, are the vestige of world-wide communism. During the Cold War, the (North before 1975) VietNamese government sent a huge number of workers and students to the 'brotherly' socialist states to earn money and to learn skills (my father, for example, was sent to Rostov university in Russia). Due to the hard atmosphere of the American War and its aftermath (at least 2 more little wars and economic sanction until 1990), many chose not to return. And when Poland, Czech-Slovakia...joined market capitalism and eventually EU, a large amount of exiled VietNamese left Russia (not only for economic reason but also to avoid the increasing xenophobic attitude of new Russia) and entered Polish border (illigally of course). I think generally those people, much different from the traditional VietNamese exiles in Western Europe (who favour arts and intellect) or the one-million-strong-South VietNamese exiles in US (whose only concern is to topple the current VietNamese government as a revenge), are interested solely in economic survival. Their effect on Polish economy, though, is beyond my graps at the moment. But as survivalists, they are impossible to get rid of. So you guys have to live with it.
Why Polish economy is booming, but more than 2 million Poles have to leave for the West? Why France has the 6th largest economy in the world, yet there are a huge French community in London, immigrating solely on economic ground? Why are there so many European scientists and artists (coming from fabulously rich countries no less) working in the US? The question is obviously not the colour of your bottom's skin, but simply the basic human desire for never-ending materialistic improvement.
I don't know you, it is true, but as I have said that thanks to my experience I am prone to suspect any self-claimed liberal humanist who professed loudly their love for humankind yet at the same time boast their nation as the best in the world. That is confusion and it is not long when those so-called idealists turn out to downright despicable ethno-centrists (or racists for simplicity's sake).
Of course, I have never compared you with Herr Hitler (I must have been a much bigger smart-ass to do the comparison since it will entail Wagner and Bruckner!) . I just think you are temporarily a little confused.
But with this gorgeous paragraph:
you certainly prove that I am simply wrong about you as any dumb-ass should be.
Please keep those lines till the end of your life.
Full respect.
Just wondering is there an asian community in Poland
- "There are scores of Vietnamese in Warszawa. Not guest workers; they're there to stay. I wish they didn't; I wish Poland were Poland, and Europe Europe."
- "There are scores of Vietnamese in Warszawa. Not guest workers; they're there to stay. I wish they didn't; I wish Poland were Poland, and Europe Europe."
The situation of those VietNamese is very complicated. They, as their numerous kin in Hungary, East Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, Russia, are the vestige of world-wide communism. During the Cold War, the (North before 1975) VietNamese government sent a huge number of workers and students to the 'brotherly' socialist states to earn money and to learn skills (my father, for example, was sent to Rostov university in Russia). Due to the hard atmosphere of the American War and its aftermath (at least 2 more little wars and economic sanction until 1990), many chose not to return. And when Poland, Czech-Slovakia...joined market capitalism and eventually EU, a large amount of exiled VietNamese left Russia (not only for economic reason but also to avoid the increasing xenophobic attitude of new Russia) and entered Polish border (illigally of course). I think generally those people, much different from the traditional VietNamese exiles in Western Europe (who favour arts and intellect) or the one-million-strong-South VietNamese exiles in US (whose only concern is to topple the current VietNamese government as a revenge), are interested solely in economic survival. Their effect on Polish economy, though, is beyond my graps at the moment. But as survivalists, they are impossible to get rid of. So you guys have to live with it.
Europe should remain white...it the ancestral home of causasians...not Asians. With the booming economies in Asia and India, why do they need to migrate to Poland or Europe?
Why Polish economy is booming, but more than 2 million Poles have to leave for the West? Why France has the 6th largest economy in the world, yet there are a huge French community in London, immigrating solely on economic ground? Why are there so many European scientists and artists (coming from fabulously rich countries no less) working in the US? The question is obviously not the colour of your bottom's skin, but simply the basic human desire for never-ending materialistic improvement.
You don't even know me, yet you judge me so quickly. I am not cofussed about anything. I know who I am, what I want to achieve and comparing me to Hitler is perhaps a projection of yourself?
I don't know you, it is true, but as I have said that thanks to my experience I am prone to suspect any self-claimed liberal humanist who professed loudly their love for humankind yet at the same time boast their nation as the best in the world. That is confusion and it is not long when those so-called idealists turn out to downright despicable ethno-centrists (or racists for simplicity's sake).
Of course, I have never compared you with Herr Hitler (I must have been a much bigger smart-ass to do the comparison since it will entail Wagner and Bruckner!) . I just think you are temporarily a little confused.
But with this gorgeous paragraph:
Perhaps all nations are less and more of a nation in equal quality. Everyone has their own stage of growth and development. Some nations are little bit behind, that doesn't mean they are anything less.
you certainly prove that I am simply wrong about you as any dumb-ass should be.
Please keep those lines till the end of your life.
Full respect.
Tran Anh
28 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]
Alas, not anymore!!!
As the sexual sense of Asian lads have been comprehensively bombarded with Western 'feminine' sex idols (through global media of course), in order to fulfill their heavenly obligation (i.e. to get laid) the Asian lassies have no choice but to imitate and emulate their far-away sisters. That has resulted in the almost extinction of the infamous Eastern feminine in every decent Pacific cities. Sorry but if you guys want to sastify your classicism, you have to go deep into the hinterland (the more 'barren' the better!)
...asian girls..., very feminine
Alas, not anymore!!!
As the sexual sense of Asian lads have been comprehensively bombarded with Western 'feminine' sex idols (through global media of course), in order to fulfill their heavenly obligation (i.e. to get laid) the Asian lassies have no choice but to imitate and emulate their far-away sisters. That has resulted in the almost extinction of the infamous Eastern feminine in every decent Pacific cities. Sorry but if you guys want to sastify your classicism, you have to go deep into the hinterland (the more 'barren' the better!)
Tran Anh
29 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]
Haha, love your sense of irony!
Haha, love your sense of irony!