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ifor bach   
10 Dec 2012
News / Kaczyński stirs up hatred between Germans and Poles. [20]

Kaczyński stirs up hatred between Germans and Poles.

Jarosław Kaczyński, the leader of Poland's main opposition party, PiS, 'Law and Justice', during a visit to Opole in Silesia, which has a substantial German minority population, suggested that Poland has been far too 'idealistic' to its German minority.

szczecinian.eu/2012/12/jaroslaw-kaczynski-stirs-up-old-ethnic-hatreds/
ifor bach   
7 Jan 2013
History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [413]

This is the most interesting thread I've read on Polish forums. Thank you to everyone who is contributing constructively. I am learning a lot here.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

PS,OP, yes,you do often smell differently, the Polish diet is very different to the average british diet....your cigarettes smell differently too....

This is about the most ridiculous post I've come across on 'Polish forums'.

Polish people have 'pointy heads' and smell 'different'. Double face-palm.

Yeah, and they've also got webbed feet. And nursing mothers produce żurek rather than milk from their teats. I reckon Poles are so different because of all the polar bears wandering round the streets of Polish cities.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Triple face palm.

So, taff, will you say that British Asians dont smell differently from White Brits? If so you are lying, their diet of far more curry than us gives them a different smell.

Of course, anyone who's been eating curry smells 'different'. It doesn't matter whether you are British, Asian or Polish.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

I live in Szczecin. I'm quite interested in spotting foreigners, (usually by the way they dress). However, very often I happen to be wrong. I'd imagine you get it wrong too.

English people and Poles are both Northern European Caucasians. The actual physical differences are pretty small.

The differences between Poles and Germans are minute, mainly because many (most?) Germans have some Slavic ancestry.

Spotting racial differences between nations is pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo that went out of fashion with the Nazis.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Poles do have typical facial features

Everyone has typical facial features. Unless they are in some way 'atypical'. You are kinda proving zetigrek's point for her.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

You're proving my point for me.

I get it. Logic isn't your strong point.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

I and I bet many others, however, think they are spot-on

think being the key word here.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

What word would you substitute?

'imagine'.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

The Polish diet is very different to the average English diet hence the different smells...

Poles eat meat, potatoes, bread ..... How is it 'different'?

You seem to imagine that it is the people who smell rather than the food. So please explain the difference between the breath of a Polish and English person after consuming bigos then, brains.
ifor bach   
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

There are a lot of vegetarians in the UK. Do they smell different to the meat eaters?

Where did you acquire this remarkable ability to work out someone's diet from their smell?

Do you sniff people at work to find out what they ate for breakfast?
ifor bach   
10 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Yes, of course they do,anyone who has lived with a veggie can tell you that..............my god, you are hard work..... do you really have the brains of a cuttlefish or are you just a boring troll?

Nah, just awestruck!

You should appear on 'Britain's got talent', or Poland's 'Mam Talent'. You could be blindfolded and led out to sniff the audience. "My remarkable sense of smell leads me to believe that Magda is from Gdańsk, and only ever eats beetroot soup. And Stanley is from Accrington and lives on a diet of meat pies and pints of bitter."
ifor bach   
10 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

I don't quite like to be treated as if I were an alien of an alien race.

When people start saying that 'the other lot' have 'pointy heads', eyes too close together, or smell 'funny', then all this tells us is that the person making the remark is prejudiced.

Of course, different people have different appearance. Obviously, we can tell with 100% accuracy if someone is black or white. We would probably know with 90% accuracy whether someone was of Greek or Scandinavian descent.

Telling apart different Northern Europeans is pretty near impossible if you base it on physical appearance alone. For example, most Germans have Slavic ancestors, and many Poles have German ancestors. Any study of surnames will tell you this.

The idea that there is an English, Polish and German 'look' that applies to most members of each nationality is pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.

Now, when it comes to fashion, make-up, and so on, we have a better chance of distinguishing between different Northern European nationalities. Of course, our fashion sense is influenced by our culture, and to some extent every country's culture is unique.

However, go to any Polish city, and you'll see lots of Poles wearing England football team related merchandise.

Personally, I'm extremely interested in the 'which nationality is he/she game'. However, I often get it wrong, and I simply disbelieve anyone who claims to 'know' what nationality anyone is simply by the way they walk or smell.
ifor bach   
10 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Saying that I believe that locals can spot foreigners with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

I lived in Greece for some years, and was always taken for being Greek by the locals. Usually, they will start talking English to anyone who looks like a tourist, and for them tourists are very easy to spot. As far as I'm aware, I have no Greek ancestry whatsoever.
ifor bach   
10 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Because?

It's idiotic. However, if you want to believe closely related nationalities smell and walk differently, then it's up to you.

When you asked me about how I know that Poles and Germans have mixed ancestry, I have already mentioned the surnames. If you don't happen to know much about history and ethnicity in Central Europe, then I don't propose giving you a crash course.
ifor bach   
10 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

explain please why you cannot believe that Poles dont just magically blend in with the natives straight away like some uber spies?

You're changing your point now. I never argued that it is not possible to 'spot a foreigner', only that there are no obvious physical or odour differences between Poles and other Northern Europeans.

Anyone claiming to be able to spot a Pole by their smell is talking out of their behinds.

diet effects body odour (which he somehow etrapolaits into me seemingly claiming to be some sort of Child Catcher able to sniff out anyone who's name ends in ski......)

So you claim to be able to work out someone's diet by how they smell. I don't believe you.
ifor bach   
15 Feb 2013
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

I like your idea for this thread, Pawian. I can learn a lot from your posts which are very informative. Thank you.

I have my 'opinions', but I am not Harry.
ifor bach   
2 Mar 2013
Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Believe I raised this issue on PF almost two years back, but it's been said that Welsh has even more quixotically chaotic-looking consonant shifts/mutations than Polish:-)

Welsh mutations are far, far easier than Polish case endings.

And for the record, I don't find Polish particularly complicated.

I don't really understand why you wrote this. Either you are extremely intelligent, or you have never really studied Polish in depth, or else you are not familiar with learning languages.

For a native English speaker, who speaks a language without either case endings or gender, and which has comparatively few inflections, Polish is one of the most difficult Indo-European languages to master.
ifor bach   
4 Mar 2013
News / Black Haitians considering themselves as Poles [31]

Merged: Polish Haitians

Does anyone know anything about the 'black' Poles from Haiti.

/polish-haitians/

Apparently they were the only Europeans allowed to stay after the slaves revolted and overthrew their European masters.