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RobertLee   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [221]

If we talk about the Deluge, lets not forget Frederick William I, the Elector of Brandenburg and the Duke of Prussia, who sided with the Swedes, although he was a vassal of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Were he punished by the Poles at that time, instead of gaining sovereignty, probably the whole world history would be totally different (for example, a couple millions of lives could be saved ;)
RobertLee   
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

And many stayed, some of whom were then put into Polish concentration camps but of course that is just another inconvenient part of Polish history, let's deny it.

One of the most notorious camps was run by a Jewish "survivor".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Morel

Here is the IPN report about this concentration camp and Morel:
ipn.gov.pl/portal.php?serwis=en&dzial=2&id=71&search=10599

So much about denying it by the Poles.
I also recommend reading Israeli reply to Polish request to extradite that scum Morel. They give Poles lessons about denial.

there were indeed Poles in the SS, thousands of them (if we make the assumption that one in fifty of the Poles who were captured by the Western allies while fighting for Germany were SS (very much an under-estimation of the percentage of German forces), there must have been at least two thousand)

You can assume all you want but without solid evidence, that is just spreading hateful antipolish libel.
RobertLee   
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

From the Wiki page you linked I see that he spend 22 months in prison, was charged numerous times and his last trial was stopped by his death. The same would probably happen with Morel if he was extradited - due to inefficiency of Polish courts.

So your view is that none of the 100,000+ Poles who were captured by the western allies while fighting for Poland were SS? That's highly likely, isn't it?

Where did you get that 100 000 number from? While many Poles were forcibly conscripted into Wehrmacht (because they weren't considered Poles by the German administration!), the Germans didn't forcibly conscript Poles into SS, and they didn't create Polish SS legions like they did in other countries. That's very logical, considering their overall policy towards Poles.
RobertLee   
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

RobertLee:
he spend 22 months in prison
Before being cleared.

You forgot to add: cleared by the communist justice system, which was imposed on Poles.

RobertLee:
was charged numerous times
With the number being 'two', as in 'he was charged two times'.

1945, 1956 and finally after 1989.

RobertLee:
his last trial was stopped by his death.
Why do you tell such pointless lies? The article says "the trial for the 1945 incident in £ambinowice was resumed by the local court in Opole. However, it had to be postponed - and finally terminated in 2005 - due to the poor health of both Gęborski and the witnesses. Gęborski died June 14, 2006."!

That's a lie - his trial was postphoned due to his poor health in 2005 and terminated in 2006 because of his death. Those bad Poles didn't take him from his death bed to court? I don't think any democratic justice systems allows this, even for worse criminals.

RobertLee:
Where did you get that 100 000 number from?
British government figures of the number of Poles taken prisoner by British forces or taken prisoner by other allied forces and transferred to the care of British forces.

Do you mind showing me that British government report?

RobertLee:
While many Poles were forcibly conscripted into Wehrmacht

Please do not lie: Polish people were not eligible to even join the Wehrmacht, only those who had sign up on the Deutsche Volksliste could join the Wehrmacht. No signature, no Wehrmacht.

That's a lie. You didn't need to sign anything to be forcibly conscripted into Wehrmacht. And yes, Poles weren't allowed into Wehrmacht - problem is German needed cannon fodder and didn't blink forcibly conscripting Silesians or Kashubians.

Harry, you are hateful polonophobic bigot, you should have been banned from this forum long time ago for your libelous accusations.
RobertLee   
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

You are welcome to read the Polish (more accurate) version of the page:

Proces (przerywany notoryczną nieobecnością świadków) trwał do 2005, kiedy to został odroczony ze względu na zły stan zdrowia oskarżonego, ostatecznie umorzony został w 2006 z powodu śmierci oskarżonego.

It also confirms that he was charged twice before 1989 - although it's irrelevant, cause Poland wasn't an independent state until then.