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hubabuba   
1 May 2011
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

Neither. Why should I hate them? Because of history? Then the Czechs should really hate Poles.

or Poles should hate Czechs. Learn history people!!!!!
I am not fond of Germans because of history, because we still suffer from what happened in 39 , because they did nothing to make amends, because the goods they have stolen from are still in their hands also the culture the sense of humour I could go on and on
hubabuba   
2 May 2011
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

Seanus
The leaders were elected(decision of majority of the population), before getting elected they had no power so the brainwashing would be a hard thing to do. Look at the situation after the war, they were well informed about all the crimes commited but still quietly stood by Hitler &co( son of Hans Frank has perfectly described it in a documentary)ex SS getting elected, or released from prison as soon as the international opinion was not interested anymore.

Today Wrocław is the name of former Breslau, but so is Lviv of former Lwów, and the latter survived the war almost undemaged, I take Lwów( Unesco site:))) every time over Wrocław, thank You

Lenka
I am not sure what You mean, is it about a Prague and Warsaw Pact??
hubabuba   
27 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

before the war communism in Poland had much lower support(if any)than in Western Europe.
The elections in 1989 were won by almost 100% by solidarity, what are You talking about then?about Kwaśniewski?dont You see a difference between communists and his party?You are using words You dont understand my dear, and learn a little bit about the situation at that time why he was chosen, surely not because he was ex communist, how can You oversimplify things when it comes to history?

In your opinion

not, only to his opinion, it is according to the law-the communist goverment was not a legal one, but again pointing out the number of communist party members Your are oversimplifying things,
hubabuba   
27 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

Perhaps a little more than you.

want to elaborate?

The fact remains that the PRL enjoyed support within Poland . You are twisting facts to avoid an inconvenient truth.

Or being precise and accurate. Over 10% of Poles belonged to the PZPR, whether you like it or not.

please, do tell where I twisted the facts?I wouldnt call it support- people were born and raised in that system, if You talk to older generation they will tell You that noone believed there can be sth else, how would You see it?how people should oppose in Your opinion?if I lived during communism I might have joined the party out of pragmatism,it is like You said that North Korea's goverment enjoys a great support,

successor to the PZPR enjoys support today

successor o PZPR in what respect?

It was legal and recognised as such by the international community.

I dont want to open the pandora box and start talk about the Western betrayal, and the goverments that recognised, imposed Polish goverment. when the legal one was in London. Kaczorowski handed insignia of presidential power to Wałęsa?aint I right?if You call a goverment imposed by another country a legal one then it is Your problem

Harry please I am trying to ignore You and Your stupidity, I already explained that I dont see a sensein talking with You as You are biased and You are lying
hubabuba   
27 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

There many more names. Let's not deny it. Leszek Miller, Jozef Oleksy, Krzysztof Janik, to name a few ad hoc.

yes, but WHY were they elected?because they were excommies?since 2002 we have the Communist Party of Poland however I dont see much support...

Furthermore, the left enjoyed plenty of support even before the war,

KPRP and later KPP was illegal under Polish law since 1919,

in 1922 communists under the name "Związek Proletariatu Miast i Wsi"- gained 2 mandates,
in 1928 - different communist parties-829416 votes,
in 1930 -286 612 votes

so tell me again what support are You talking about?
hubabuba   
27 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [157]

Personally I am, for example, very biased against plastic 'Poles' who bring disgrace on Poland.

Harry let Poles decide who bring disgrace on their country, ok?if I llearned Polish history by Your posts I would view it as a bloodthirsty warmonger,who attack all its neighbour out of greed, but when they attack Poland it is fine. We fought communism just so we could install it few years later. Poland is a country whose people kill Jews for hobby(if there are no Jews around we can kill anybody else-we are not biased in that), we are never right and we did nothing right, and if We had any decency in ourselves we would commit a collective suicicde.

I might not agree with many thing they write but at least their intentions are good, and They want sth good for this country.

You being biased is exactly the problem, how can You have a conversation about history if You are biased?it is so easy to take some random sentence or incident out of context and then trying to prove by it Your truth, You are not looking at the whole picture but the one element that suits You, and thats why I see talking with You as fruitless
hubabuba   
9 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]

Let's solve this once and for all the Polish stupid stereotype comes from uneducated peasants going to the west. Who in the Polish countryside in the 20s had any education?

and what kind of people do You think were coming from other countries?exactly the same-poor, very often uneducated with the hopes of a better life. America is a mix of this kind of people. There were steereotypes(often nasty)about many nationalities, but the dumb Pollack jokes started in the 40s not sooner, and it did start with hollywood, even during the war Poles were pictured as bad characters
hubabuba   
29 Jul 2011
Life / Stereotypes about Polish people being stupid? [281]

Wrong. Hollywood raved about Poles untill the Soviet union got involved in the war in 41(blah blah"but 1939 they invaded Po......) and the left leaning script writers turned their praise on the plucky soviets,dropping the "plucky" Pole as a stock player....name a single hollywood movie rom the war years that paints Poles as bad people,go on.

honey, the II world war was happening till 1945 so what I said is relevant, I am aware that soviet propaganda has much to do about it, also antisemitic occurences in 1968 Poland fueled this bad depiction of Poles
hubabuba   
31 Jul 2011
UK, Ireland / Why Poles will never belong in England [283]

Or bill them for the roads, hospital, schools, universities that miraculously appeared during the years of British governance.

in partitioned Poland many hospitals, houses were erected, roads(not too many), but it doesnt change the fact that it was peanuts and that Poland was doing much better without this "help" before the partitions. And the same with British colonies much was built by Brits but again -peanuts comparing to the money that were sucked out of the country
hubabuba   
31 Jul 2011
UK, Ireland / Why Poles will never belong in England [283]

It quite clearly wasn't. In fact Poland was economically far behind her Western neighbours during that period.

after swedish deluge, about, 1655 the economy of Poland rapidly shrank but still was doing much better than during partiotions(the towns for example were developing the same they were in the West), there were also measures taken in beetween partitions to bust the economy- that would probably work if Poland would live any longer.The education was excellent, the cultural life was busting

in 1920 Poland however was the poorest country in Europe(I guess except for Spain), the towns, the villages, the roads were underdeveloped, high illiteracy, even szlachta(with some exceptions)was poor, the industry was almost non existent etc etc

I am sorry but I fail to see the advantages
P.S. if You are interested I can post You a data(in polish)about the economy of Poland since XIV century, or can try to translate for You some bits, or better maybe google translator- because I dont feel I would do it right
hubabuba   
1 Aug 2011
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

Poznan celebrates Wielkopolskie Uprising

I fail to see why one of the worst military decisions of the 20th century should be celebrated with flags flying and so on.

as I said before, in 1944 people didnt know what we know now(again look at the Paris uprising), but I do agree with You that it was a very bad decision. And I dont celebrate this decision, I am paying the respect to the lost city its people this microworld with its unique culture, dialects/slang that was destroyed by the German psychos, I am paying my respect and I remember about them, and I believe thay deserve that
hubabuba   
1 Aug 2011
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

I had to ask several people to find out what the reason was for them flying in Poznan - most people simply didn't know - because they have their own uprising here.

and that says what?that people in Poznan are ignorant?
hubabuba   
1 Aug 2011
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

I remember when uprising took place, and a flag in Warsaw to remember that would be a nice thing to do, however we shouldnt than forget about Śląskie uprisings, Lwów and then Pcim Dolny, not every single event can be commemorated in Warsaw!!This is why these events are remembered in the place they happened
hubabuba   
8 Aug 2011
UK, Ireland / Why Poles will never belong in England [283]

Without the EU, Poland would be nothing

sure, before 2004 Poland was nothing, EU contrubites to the development of Poland, but it is not the question of to be or not to be

If you believe everyone on here, Polish women do just that - marry (or, more accurately, get pregnant by :p ) Nigerians and quite a few other third-worlders as well! So which is it? :)

You are a mean and ridiculous little fellow, arent You?