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not eyes closed. read carefully. if not deleted will post more

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if one shuts his/her eyes no one can help. how one can compare poland with france, spain or italy. It is said one can judge a society from the traffic of cities or standard of public toilets etc. for God sake do not compare with france, spain or italy. see the very strange traffic on roads of wrsaw which is capital, see the stndard and smell of toilets in centrum.where is latin civilization in warsaw. i visit university also specially the warsaw even went to krakow also. rooms like pigeon holes. beaurocratic and monopolistic trend is evident every where in teaching and administration staff. when society as a whole is not following some thing how one can then claim to have some thing. where is the religion few old hags hanign around churches so where is practice of relgion. in france, italy, spain you have worship places of other religions. here one can only see opposition to other relegions. one uni teacher was telling even talking about religion is considered to be tabu in poland. so one can never ever compare poland with western european culture or society.

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read the islamic history when caliphate was all over. freedom of speech was much better as compared to these days. even one calipha of islam installed one bell for justice in his residence and every one was allowed to ring it if he or she considered him/herself to be wronged. so if ture caliphate came these days also will be much better. but at least no chance in very near future unless some miracle happens

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I do not want to be persoanl. But I can tell you I am a frequent traveller. Have travelled almost in many countries of Europe including Western, Eastern, Central Europe as well Asia and US. Merely money is not the soloution to every problem. In fact the psyche and mental approach of any nation remain the decisive factors in its progress. After using the toilet does spilling of water in camode requires a money. If some Pole is abondening the dirt in toilet and not taking a trouble to spill the water what money has to do in it. It is just his or her mental psyche. I do not know how one can compare Poles with Japnese. Did you ever experience Kamikaz in second WW. At least no where mentioned in Polish History. Only common thing could be if Poland becomes a garbage field for defence shield project of US (though seems to be forgotton idea) or as Japanese left their National Security in the hands of US. Please accept the fact that except for white skins Poles have nothing else common which can bring them at par with Western Civilized Society. Discrimination with coloured skin is too much evident in every day life even in Warsaw what to talk of small cities and villages. Experience this in the streets and in public transport of warsaw.

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how true your judgment is. facts are always bitter to digest. lest the poles can digest the facts,

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so quick withdawal. hold on to your position. i am supporting you. it is an education to nock out the racist feeling from some ones mind.

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what one has to do if it is just on papers. see practical things on streets of warsaw. people want saying with deeds also. not empty slogans of having this and that. a coloured man or woman sitting on seat of four remains empty in bus or train as some low cast it sitting. while the fact is that some times the so called white skin pole is smelling so badly that one can not imagine. so where is modernity of constitution and ministry of education. probably just on papers and in attractive looking shelves. isnt it

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just one fresh practical experience. I observed in my first post that the polish women tend to pose modskod without having stuff for it. for last two hours i was working in the garden. oposite to my house is small public park. i saw a polish girl taking sun bath just on the small pavement used by public. mind you today is very hot and sunny day here in warsaw, people passed by and no body took notice of her. i went and asked her why she is occupying the public pavement. while the fact is that there is sufficient place else where in the park. she abrubptly replied to show to public i have chosen this point. what you want to show to public my natural question was. and she was having nothing. flat on her two assets. ( to me one must have 54 inches braw for her assets to which i consider worth looking at) and very skinny legs with very poor looking physique etc. when she was told her factual position she got angry shouted some abuse in polish and left the park. so is the situation here in warsaw. For attracting the public my advise is that at least polish women should examine themselves first and then should try to come in public.

the recent oposition and big hue and cry for the mosque in ochota area of warsaw itself is indicative how tolerant poles are. all is jsut on papers. when it comes to practice they prove to be racist and show hatred and dislikes for other relgions and colours.

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why they should be intrested in poles. what poles have to give them. do the poles have gold mines, gas or lpg for sheikhs of ME.

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Born in subcontinent India, grew up little there, then to usa, then to uk, germany, holland and now thrown in Poland probably for two years. wheatish looks not black not white rather in bwtween. hold one master and three bechalor degrees in various facets. working on high administrative post having poles also under command. not taking any thing from poles rather on giving end as my all emoulments paid by by my bosses outside the poland and i spend every thing here thus boosting the polish economy. will it suffice my dear Torq

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so here is the proof of being racist. i was brought in hunstvil albama usa. now hold tripple citizenships. no one has to tell me any thing about any aspect. only problem is that i have shown the real face of poles in a crystal mirror. being from diplomat field, i have contacts with other diplomat mission in warsaw. all non muslim/muslim diplomat at least do complain about the discrimination of poles with them. another proof is see all the newspapers never ever any coverage of any other relgion. see tv, only interested in self egoed programs. world is not poland it is just a tiny land with not a proud history. try to come out of your gatteos and see where world is going. blunder happend in gaza strip whole world was crying but see the poles only intrested in domestic affairs.

you joke india. see poles puls tv. all seems to be mad to the cultural richness of this wonderland. but racist mentality can not see to it. just wait for few years many poles will be seen roaming indian streets for oil and gas. let caspian reserviors to pass through there. even toady if eu funding is taken out, poles stay no where near to india. poles are jsut dancing on the money of others as eu needs a place to dump their garbages same as us needs poland for it malafide desgins.

india has rich culture. it is a great country. one can not jsut imagien how wornderful this land is. it has people more whiter than poles (kasmir adn northern areas) but not with inferiority complexed psyche as poles have. wheather stuff has or not but do behave like western europeans. hi hi hi

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is it popcone or popcorn. just observance does not suffice. have some arguments if you do not agree with some of observations. normaly polish women threaten with word, you know i am a real women and will see you and will teach you a lesson" but you seems to be humble and polite and tolerant.

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how true you are in your assessment. what i command are poles and they call themselves educated adults and you term them as goats. what an honour from a pole to an other pole

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i would now like to end this discussion from my side at least for today. i respect poles and some of their qualities. however what i observed i mentioned it with honesty. aim was to give a food for thought and for improvment. with one more narration of incident i would like to call it a day. as for english is concerned it is not my native language and i am aught to make mistakes and not ashamed of it. every one can do so. one young pole came to me. student of uni doing masters in international affairs. looking for part time job. i told him poles do not have good reputation in western europe. he told me the poles living here are different from those who left the country and he termed these migrated poles as a bit lower class poles.we agreed on honest working basing on mutual trust. just in second week he broke my trust by findling some of my important documents. hidden camera films was having a proof of it and he could not deny it. so if i am having such type of experience how i can have good image of poles. please tell me honestly.

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now have few more fresh obserations in last two days.
visited a bank in centrum. name of bank mellenium. row of customer waiting. the two skinny funny looking girl employees having kekbab pause. took 20 minutes. few customers left the bank with anger. is this the standard poles want to have to match with w. europeans.

in whole discussion only one balanced minded came to light and to me he is mr grunewald. might be atmosphere of norway has polished him. Torq and others have same racist and hatred mentality and have only lame excueses of labeling me indian, third worlder etc but do not see own stature in mirror. in india it is said, " aaina dikhaya to bura man gai" it simply means that when truth was revealed they got angry.

some is objecting as I have been denied a white woman. many whites tried to trap me. but the saltish taste which a woman of subcontinent has, none othr woman has in any corner of the world. so why i should leave a better taste and go after funny looking things. it is india which some times gets a share for miss world also. has ever any polish lady even dared to enter such contest.

see the innocent beauty of filmstar kaif. whole world is crazy for the lady from india. see shlipa sethi. india is full of attrctive and good looking stuff and not like poland have nothing but pose as having every thing.

standard of polish items is also so low that some times we do not remain sure if the item will work for the first time. people do ot adhere to thier promise. my car broke down. took to a workshop. mechanic agreed to repair it for 280.00 PLN. when went to collect the car bill was 680.00 PLN. when asked why it is so the simple reply was it is poland and here every thing is possible. what a country! my only comment was at that moment. could contribute some more bitter experiences if poles like torq are ready to digest them

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who told you that; they prefer bigger hipps and bigger rounded shaped two assets of woman.
Torq I think you are very self centred personality and live in some isolated self conveived and dreamed world. try to come out of your enclaved hole and fear the day when india will become a big power and poles will be forced to look at indians rather then big eared obama usa.

one of your country mate terri also dealt in the same tone and told me of dire consequences but suddenly vanished with all of her womanhood. where she evoparated i have no idea. same did the magdalena who enjoyed the discussion with poprorn in hand but could not contribute any thing.

in fact you poles have nothing concrete to say in your favour so you resort to same baseless allegations about india.
just see any of the bigger market. the way cashiers are clearing customers even crawling snakes will be ashamed to see it. see germany there on counter you get cleared in one minute but here you have to wait, wait, wait for ten minutes trying to digest the funny behaviour of poles. what a counry

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How true your observation is. One has to see the psyche behind this whole attitude. There is some thing wrong with Polsih Nation. Their reputation is much damaged that no one knows when it will get repaired. The other day I was attending an international function in Germany. Guests came from all over the world. Few Poles were also there. Function was sensitive as such all were required to go through body search. There came few Poles. I could hear the security people whispering in German Language, do not search these Poles in entering the building rather search them when they are leaving the building." Now in this situaiton do you suggest any concrete measure which this nation can adopt for improving their image internationally.

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same old excuse and that rusted defence mechanism.



I think some thing else also.

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at least i can pitty on ur perception. any way i am not jew. dont want to disclose my religious bondage. better remain on topic and suggest some ways and means to improve the image of poles. it may be a old joke but i heard from a pole recently. a german got job in poland. he discussed with a pole how to transport his car there. pole replied, sir do not worry. see your garage ur car is already in poland. try to understand the message between the lines. it is a great nation and should ponder on improving its image globaly. not like terri threatening for the dire consequences and then shutting mouth as nothing happened and others forwarding the excuses for her just like as grapes are sour. same goes for magda enjoying with popcorn and not getting serious about her national image. torq undoubtedly proved to be racist having hatred for other nations. one school of thought is that those poles who are in poland are not pushed about this image. they say they to have live in poland so they care hoots what others thing about polish people.what a reply and what a country

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is it made of polish maiz crop?

just read the following news item and ponder on my perception in which i clearly said that us wants a buffer zone or scape goat for defence shield and poland is the best place for it but magda laughed at it while having popcorn in hand and torq bursted at me out of his hatred and racist attitude. But no one can deny the facts of life. let us see what comes out with new president.

Missile defense near the Russian border

Last year, in the spirit of "reset" of ties with Russia, Obama announced a new missile defense system, which in the first phase will be completed by 2011 and will involve sea-based SM-3 interceptor missiles and in the second phase (sometime around 2015) will see upgraded SM-3s put on the ground in Southern and Central Europe. Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev also agreed to hold consultations on the matter.

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at least i do not agree with all of u. rules did not pemit the complete publication. just see the asia times on line from 10th of july and see the title article that how usa and russia are going to reset the game. u will understand the great game being played with poland. keep in mind information of this great game is also coming from a renowned indian diplomat mr b kumar. u see torq and magda.

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in our language there is a famous saying that when pigeon sees the cat and becomes sure that now she is goign to catch him or her, he or she what ever the case may closes his or her eyes and considers himself or herslef safe from the cruel clutchers of cat. same seems to be true about your perception of americans. all the way they have come to play thier toys in your sandboxes. probably they did the same in vietnam, iraq, afganistan. i will suggest u to please buy a popcorn, rather a popcon ice cream, enjoy its flavour and amuse urself when americans will play with their toys in your sandboxes. u call them sanboxes. really what a country and what a lot of people it has!

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those who live in self created gattoes, some times even dont know who their neighbor is, even in thier whole life. so fault lies with ignorant poles who are least intrested in internaitonal affairs. they are just interested in popcorns made of Maiz cultivated in poland.


you may be right once upon a time. warsaw is capitol of poland. come to its main station centralney. you will find sign of wc underground. jut go there. you have to pay 2 pln for a shi shi. no one can stay there even for 15 seconds. at least my half pipi went up from where it came and i had to run away from this filthy stinking place. and mind you as per some of you i come from shity india. this is poland biggest city and every outsider comes here to visit. ok go to palace of culture. enter go right down stairs. pipi is free but to do pipi there one has to have a stamina of elephant. please try to understand this fact that poles as a whole entity do not care cleanliness and do not like clean atmosphere. i have given you concrete proofs. visit both above mentioned places and you will see the facts. hi hi

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It is good to note that at least a few Poles call a cat a cat. I mean have the courage to accept the truth and not like Torq or Terri who always put others on defence and do not bother to peep through their own breast or neck. To me comparison of a Pole to a Finish is inappropriate. If you read my initial posts you will realise that I raised the observation that Poles tend to adopt a posture to which they do not fit at least currently. It is a famous proverb that crow started copying the style of seagill and in that attempt forgot even its own style. Merely possession of white skin does not give you a license to become a Western European. It takes score of years to achieve some thing. So advise is ( with special reference to women) try to digest the freedom and money though donated by others and time will come when Poles may be standing shoulder to shoulder to Western Europeans. Experience soem fresh complexed behaviour of Poles.

Last week one Pole was caught doing some thing wrong in London. He was admonished only not to repeat the act. To my surprise when asked from which country he comes, Niederland was his reply. What a shame that he could not tell that he is a Pole.

Dr took few Zt and wrote the medicines on the name of some other patient. The person who got the recept was not authorised to get these Medicines on his documents.

While looking for car parking on main railway station a drunken Pole came and helped in Parking for an empty space and ordered not to get a parking ticket from machine. Later got 2 ZT and let the car go out. Accross the entrence Police was viewing and giving a smile both to customer and to this self made guarding of Car Park.

Above could be very small events but speak of psyche of a Nation. I have refused to drive on the roads of Warsaw as Poles are always crossing you from left. None can dare so in Western European Countreis including Finland. So is the situation here in Poland and I must end it by repeating what a country Poland is

Very intresting to note that another thread has come up with the title that are the POLES A NATION OF THIEVES: It is also a very valid observation. Very clumsy argument some one gave that since Poles were conquered as such they developed the habits of stealing and cheating etc. What a stupid argument. Afghans are since centuries in this situation but you will never find such filthy habits in them. There is some thign wrong with the psyche of whole nation and probably all of them need therapy by some Psychartist.

What you will say to this observation. In the parking of Carrefore, one Pole with yellow shirt is on duty. His job is to collect the shopping trolleys and put thiem in order. He has twin prong type pins in his hand. When he sees some one coming to return the trolley, he is findling with the already standing trolley with his two prong pins so that next comer can get his or her 2 Zt back. Poor customer is trying hard but fails and at the end leaves the effort to get his 2 Zt back. Comes a smile on the face of this man and the moment coustomer leaves, his hand works and with his two prong pins he earns his 2 Zt by getting it out from the slot. It was very amusing for me to see this game for one hour. He hunted six customers in this period. A unique experience which one even can not have in third world ****** countries. What a nation and what a country.

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tow_stalin
It looks to me also as uptill now I have been playing mouth organ in front of some buffalo. Previously also Terri threatened me for dire consequnces now you tell me to start counting days. You all are mistaken. Most people from sub continent are Arians origin and they do not leave a thing half done. I have started this compaign to tell to Polish Community about their weaknesses and shortcomings and wil continue to so. So forget this notion that I will start counting my days. Incidently I was in Uk for few days and made some more deep obserations about some Poles and will intimate for all of you in due course of time.

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agreed bu it looks as poles have accepted the observations made by me. this is also a great quality to accept weaknesses and make an effort to improve it. by the way what president of poland is trying to have from his counter part of czeck republic in high mountains.