mmwhat
2 Jun 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [152]
That's very mature and developed, young man. Very-very intelligent.
If you kacapy
That's very mature and developed, young man. Very-very intelligent.
mmwhat
2 Jun 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [152]
All you have to understand is that Russian population is diverse even if your propaganda tells you Russians are drunk, angry, imperialist. No they aren't. Of course there is a lot of bydlo, hopefully its numbers will reduce.
The minimal thing you can do to prove your intelligence and "Europeanity" is not to biased about every Russian. That's chauvinism, chaps. The worst kind of it is common chauvinism while working or performing any kind of trade, paperwork that involves Russians. Some of you can't even talk to a person if they say they're from Russia, even if before the conversation was nice.
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1jola of course I've read it. I've just been called kacap today because.. because I am Russian. And those were young people, Polish future. Reading or hearing this word I imagine a moustached Western Ukrainian nationalist having a chub-hairstyle, wearing SS signs.
All you have to understand is that Russian population is diverse even if your propaganda tells you Russians are drunk, angry, imperialist. No they aren't. Of course there is a lot of bydlo, hopefully its numbers will reduce.
The minimal thing you can do to prove your intelligence and "Europeanity" is not to biased about every Russian. That's chauvinism, chaps. The worst kind of it is common chauvinism while working or performing any kind of trade, paperwork that involves Russians. Some of you can't even talk to a person if they say they're from Russia, even if before the conversation was nice.
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1jola of course I've read it. I've just been called kacap today because.. because I am Russian. And those were young people, Polish future. Reading or hearing this word I imagine a moustached Western Ukrainian nationalist having a chub-hairstyle, wearing SS signs.
mmwhat
3 Jun 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [152]
I'm not a flamer or a flooder, so of course yes.
That fact hurted me somehow, mainly because while I was learning some basic Polish online I got many positive comments on my attempts from native speakers, so I formed an image of an average Pole as a friendly person. Then again, did they see in my profile there that I'm from Russia? Hmm. I hope they don't mind it.
From what I heard or read, I guess that's how modern young "patriotism" groups teach young people to think about Russians. I don't know whether those organisations official or underground extreme right-wing packs. In Russia there are stupid youth organisations too, "nashi" and other crap.
My message to anyone from Russia and Poland: please, save your ethnical slur and propaganda polemic for another day, try to think of a Pole/Russian as of an equal individual (after all, genetically we are distant relatives). How stupid is that: avoid communication and be aggressive towards a person you thought was nice, before they disclosed their nationality.
I'm not a flamer or a flooder, so of course yes.
That fact hurted me somehow, mainly because while I was learning some basic Polish online I got many positive comments on my attempts from native speakers, so I formed an image of an average Pole as a friendly person. Then again, did they see in my profile there that I'm from Russia? Hmm. I hope they don't mind it.
From what I heard or read, I guess that's how modern young "patriotism" groups teach young people to think about Russians. I don't know whether those organisations official or underground extreme right-wing packs. In Russia there are stupid youth organisations too, "nashi" and other crap.
My message to anyone from Russia and Poland: please, save your ethnical slur and propaganda polemic for another day, try to think of a Pole/Russian as of an equal individual (after all, genetically we are distant relatives). How stupid is that: avoid communication and be aggressive towards a person you thought was nice, before they disclosed their nationality.
mmwhat
3 Jun 2010
History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [152]
Well, let me tell you why is this opinion present. It is told so on Russian history lessons and still popular Soviet-era patriotic books about WWII. I understand they didn't exactly give Poland freedom, they and allies scared Nazi troops off, then allies left and communists installed pro-soviet governments in many countries. They maybe saved physical lives of individuals but they got Poland "to pay" for it by being communist. And they didn't hesitate to keep the power (Czechoslovakia, 1968 and Poland, 1981-83). Those old crazy men thought they were going to change the world but their version of Socialism was kinda perverted.
if you start argueing that Russians freed us from the Germans, you can expect hostility
Well, let me tell you why is this opinion present. It is told so on Russian history lessons and still popular Soviet-era patriotic books about WWII. I understand they didn't exactly give Poland freedom, they and allies scared Nazi troops off, then allies left and communists installed pro-soviet governments in many countries. They maybe saved physical lives of individuals but they got Poland "to pay" for it by being communist. And they didn't hesitate to keep the power (Czechoslovakia, 1968 and Poland, 1981-83). Those old crazy men thought they were going to change the world but their version of Socialism was kinda perverted.