News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

These are the best "warriors".....re-fighting old battles....of course much better/harder/tougher than the originals...typing their fat fingers bloody....

I know your kind from many history forums! :)

But the real life isn't for them...wouldn't had been back then either....

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

I dunno....

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]


Not only nowadays, as they were....and some Berliner call it also the memorial of the rapist, because that was also true.

There is no such thing as lilywhiteness...but under that monument lay the bones of thousands of young men...russians, ukrainians and surely also belorussians far away from home buried in german soil....we can and have to respect that.

And yeah...that the soldiers and their families weren't exactly living in wealth and freedom either was surely a part of the understanding and acceptance. I remember people saying that the worst was over for Germans in 1945, for the Russians/Soviets it didn't stop...

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

Hmm...its still standing and cared for and is part of every Berlin sight-seeing tour....what more can you ask for?

And it gets alot of visitors...

...This year I wanted to test my hunch. The results seem to confirm my impression: between 6 am and 10 pm we counted a total of 12,813 visitors...

gabowitsch.net/treptow2014/

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

There is that thing in Berlin Treptower Park, in my neighbourhood....remember? Huuuuuge....

Since it was build during the times of the Sovietunion it might count as well for Ukrainians and Belorussians...maybe...

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]


Yes, they deserve it too...are they even asking?

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


....and those who did weren't the best place to serve!

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


Someone searched for the names of the killed...I dunno if its complete though...

....Alphabetical lists of Jewish war dead from the Polish Armed Forces and Armed Forces in Exile. List 1 contains 1105 names of Jewish military casualties of the September 1939 campaign. List 2 contains 523 names of Jewish military casualties of the Polish Armed Forces in exile. (List 2 is divided chronologically and geographically into four sections:....

ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=31204

There exist also a very interesting comic called "Maus"...the son of a polish/jewish Holocaust survivor wrote about the memoirs of his father who actually served in the polish forces in 1939...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

I think Pol rather had a show of support for Poland '39 before the Reichstag in mind...

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

....After the November pogroms in 1938, up to 40,000 people fled, including more than 15,000 Polish Jews deported in October. In 1939, almost 80,000 Jews managed to flee Germany. With the start of the war on September 1, 1939, the chances of leaving the country decreased - while around 500,000 Jews lived in Germany in 1933, there were only around 210,000 in 1939 - but it is still possible: in 1940, 15,000 Jews can still leave the country , In 1941 there are only half as many....

bpb.de/politik/hintergrund-aktuell/235829/1941-ausreiseverbot-fuer-juden

Dead, fleeing, hiding, soon to be dead....take your pick!

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


Not amazing....just DEAD!

Had more Germans and Europeans cared before about their fate (not secretly applauded) I'm sure they would had found the energy to care more about Poland and the fate of other Europeans too.

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


....I have to admit I didn't read everything...My trigger word was actually "annexion" in the same sentence with "Austria"...that got me out of my daily slumber like a cat smelling catnip! :)

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


What privilege!

There had been just not many Jews left to stage a pro-Poland demonstration back in Berlin 1939....there hadn't been any pro-jewish demonstration in Warsaw either during the years before I guess?


Definitely! As WWII was a continuation of WWI....Hitler got thirsty for revenge during the Treaty of Versailles!

Nothing of that would had happened without Austria declaring war..

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


On July 28, 1914, one month to the day after Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife were killed by a Serbian nationalist in Sarajevo, Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia, effectively beginning the First World War.

history.com/this-day-in-history/austria-hungary-declares-war-on-serbia


I blame the Austrians for every of my warts...them and the Frenchies!

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


....in 1939??? Seriously?

Where should the few survivors had done that? In the camps?

Many german Jews where deported to Poland in the years before. They then where gathered in the Ghettoes, you know the rest....

The US TV series "Holocaust" centers around such a family from Berlin with polish/jewish roots....worth watching!

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

I think it was more a kind of a bender....the same as in Germany...the Sudetenland...the Saarland before....like drunks.

...and what a hangover followed.

A warning against politicians with promises if there ever was one!

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Understandable...the Austrians had just alot better PR after WWII...they made themselves the first "victim", Hitler a German and Beethoven an Austrian...its an old joke here! :)

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]




encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/austria

I think the austrian/german word "Anschluss" hits it better than the somewhat dubious sounding english "annexation"....

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Definitely...

It all started with WWI...a war Germany only got into to defend the treaty with Austria....the rise of the austrian Hitler and WWII was a direct consequence.

Now see what that got us!

Oh and about the "annexation":

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]


Erm....Hitler was an Austrian....many of the worst Nazis had been Austrians...and Beethoven was a German, not an Austrian....its abit complicated with the Schluchtenscheißer and us...

News / Poland - Germany's 5th largest trade partner [33]


Really! :)

Genealogy / Am I of Polish or German descent? [10]

Ahem....Prussians are very well Germans....and often with polish, french or jewish roots, heh:)

Language / Postcard from Wolyn.. translation if possible.. [19]

Cool! Congrats :)

Language / Postcard from Wolyn.. translation if possible.. [19]


Sütterlin was the handwriting what was teached in the schools since about 1911....so, old people might have written differently by tradition, but otherwise I don't think so.

Language / Postcard from Wolyn.. translation if possible.. [19]

For a small fee people will help you out with translating old Sütterlin documents (handwriting AND language)...it's worth a try if it's important to you!

For example:

awo-ov-konstanz.de/suetterlin-schreibstube/

or

heinz-bernd.de/heinz_bernd/vorf_suetterlin/vorf_suetterlin.html

or

towener-lesebuch.de/transkription-uebersetzen-suetterlin/

If possible you would need a much better picture of your document....higher resolution, sharper for better reading. Good luck! :)

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

With Laschet the CDU will tank in East-Germany, as the SPD already does....both of their top league personal, their heartlands and most of their voters, are western....the East doesn't really exist for them (besides some empty sunday speeches), that will show in their policies and their election results.

He is "Merkelianer", totally approved by "her", with him the movement of the CDU to the left will keep on going...no change, no new "Aufbruch" whatsover. Not what the country needs!

Additionally to that the CDU base was against him, the leadership had still decided for him, going against the majority of the CDU delegates...the split with the base is deep already. That too is potential for a coming conflict sooner or later...


A free trade agreement isn't going to cut it if Europe wants to keep its seat at the top table in the new world order....that's the problem!

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]


....please not!

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

....that would be National-Socialism then...

They don't have to follow Germans in everything, don't they!

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]


That implies abit of sympathy at least, if not love! ;)

Just imagine Poland taking over the place of GB on the table....more free market, less socialism...more political and economical pragmatism...

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

France is extremely centralist, Germany values federalism....France is much more socialist, Germany is not...France sees itself rather as the patron of the South of Europe and was not happy at all about the enlargement to the East, etc...etc...etc...