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Bratwurst Boy   
20 Jan 2020
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

What answer should that be?

It's happening...the arctic ice is melting - raising the sea level - flooding settled lands....the average temperature is raising - burning nature and people - bringing droughts and mass fires....WHAT is your answer? Not doing anything? It's all a hoax??? WHAT?
Bratwurst Boy   
20 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

That's why I am optimistic about Poland's future. As long as we remain a Catholic country

I really wouldn't bind the future of a country to a religion, any religion!

Poland isn't any exception. The more modernization, the less religiousity....

4liberty.eu/strange-death-of-the-catholic-church-in-poland/

"....Over 90% of Poles still declare belonging to the Catholic faith, yet, less than 40% go to church...."

It's the same everywhere....a majority of Germans would call themselves Christians...but besides gift exchanges at Christmas and enjoying sleep-ins during free workdays with the name of once christian holy days there isn't any belief or religiousity anymore...

I think that is a fight you will lose in a generation or two...the idea that Poles differ in that to the rest of the West is wishful thinking. As millions of young Poles have left highly religious Poland for alot less religious western Europe, and most are not coming back. They don't seem to miss their church!

What I found interesting though is that a majority of religious Poles isn't happy about PiS....and the closeness between the polish Church and this party!

translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fciekaweliczby.pl%2F63-polakow-uwaza-ze-kosciol-powinien-zachowac-neutralnosc-wobec-polityki-pis-sondaz%2F

A non-political Church is preferred by far....that's the same in Germany too btw..

But where does that leave the ones who (want to) use the religion for politic causes?

....As long as we remain a Catholic country (and I can't see that changing in foreseeable future), we will have this natural armour against all sorts of nonsense.

That doesn't seem like a winning argument in the long run....as most Poles are against such thinking it seems!
Bratwurst Boy   
20 Jan 2020
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

I've read it and I googled Hansen but I can't find anything about anything being wrong now....the ice is still melting, the temperatures are rising....and it still doesn't look good when we do nothing.

Can you point out where it's proven that it all isn't true anymore?
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Nah, more and more youngsters who are being brainwashed by their teachers,

Yeah well....that has been that way since the beginning...it's called education! ;)

Sure, pollution is a real problem.

Okay...pollution first!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

However, when the action is enforced by some governing body a word "solidarity" losses its original meaning

It's the same with taxes!

Every democratic gov demands them...and all people are nagging about it!

If left to be fully voluntarily there would be much less of it....but also much less of infrastructure, usable streets, medical and educational services, military, police security, welfare for the old and sick, pensions and what not.

It's the solidarity of a nation...and totally enforced!

Pushing unwanted refugees from Germany to Poland against Polish will in the name of a false "solidarity" is an act of opression.

Tell me again how many of these refugees pushed Germany into Poland exactly?
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Then why don't they pony up to NATO for their share if they are so damn rich ?

Seriously, more and more people are feeling more threatened by the man made global warming than by an invasion by someone or the other...

Everybody (in Germany at least) wanting to raise the NATO fee has to answer "....and why not for the environment??? Isn't the money there much more needed?"

its time for the US taxpayers to demand we get out!

It could be worth a try....
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

It's the foreign aid problem all over again.

Why is that a problem? The EU shucks out support funds since the beginning! I never heard anybody complaining on the receiving end...

It's no accident that one argument for the Brexiters is that they no longer want to pay for the "EU-slackers"...but "local autonomy" somehow never featured much with the receiver populations.

Portuguese retirees receiving the same monetary amounts as Swedes.... doable?

In a closely integrated European Federation...logical!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

It is impossible to integrate manufacturing, finance and service economies and to maintain solidarity at the same time.

I disagree...it's necessary to maintain solidarity. After all I'm much more inclined to support people close to me than outsiders...Germans being solidary with Greeks was pushing it, especially as it became known that for example greek pensioners got earlier more support than german pensioners, so it was hard to explain to german poor pensioners why they should pay so that the greek pensioners could live on better than them.

But if the social systems for example would be all integrated then all pensioners had the same rights and duties, no matter if they live in Greece or Germany and it would be much easier to feel solidary towards each other.

Making Italians accept German economic values is impossible unless you turn them into southern Germans

There is no economically "good" country nor an economically "bad" country.

Every country has it's economically well off, successful regions and it's poor, less developed regions. That has nothing to do with the EU. But they get now support funds from the EU with the chance to invest in these regions, to develop them.

But without any closer integration nobody from the outside...say...from Brussels... can influence how the national gov is using these support funds, so it happens that poor regions stay poor, but that is not the fault of the EU and those support funds.

To make better choices to help with the development of poorer regions it would need a common economical ministry/department...but that would mean again much closer integrated economies!

The only thing that would happen outside the EU is that they either would have to chuck out this support by themselves now again or cut it out. That's the only options! These regions won't become developed now just because the country decided to leave the EU...there is no sense in that!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Do crumbling western Europe have that money?

The money isn't the problem...Europe is the most richest continent, with the european Single Market we have the most richest consumer base...WE ARE TOP!

The will and the ideas are the problems...we are slowly getting to it now though, but it's still a struggle...but the will is growing!

This first "green deal" is about 1 Trillion Euros, Crowie! ONE TRILLION!!!! And it won't be the last...

Trillion is a 1 with 12 zeros after it, and it looks like this: 1,000,000,000,000.

Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Well...the new EU "green deal" could be a start!

ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/european-green-deal_en

It will definitely cost alot...but could be worth it in the long run...and it's definitely a kind of "pay back" to nature!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

They've given up on the idea that voting can change anything

I'm sorry Maf....even when I'm disagreeing with the outcome of elections....I still accept the democratic process (and hope for the next one).

Neither is the EU the mean dictatorial all-powerful overlord nor are the Greeks the totally helpless, weak, naive sheep as you prefer to present both. Just accept that the political and economical realities are alot more multifaceted and that there often is no clear cut solution to fit all!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

but EU officials only know one speed: FASTER!

To chose to become part of the EUROZONE is the end of the integration, there is nothing faster than that. But it had been Greece totally wanting, demanding to become part if this zone of highly competitive, integrated countries. So much so that they cooked their books to present themselves as much more advanced and stable as they truly were..

Who is at fault now?

Having said that, there is plenty of room for improvement,

In East-Germany too...

We will proably need the same time to catch up as we have lost!

There are good news too....Brussels just decided to cut the support for Turkey at about 75%!

Money well saved! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Imagine if instead of that they were subsidised forever to avoid closing them.

These are support funds paid by the givers of the EU...but there is not much Brussel can do to force the receiver gov to use them wisely...that's the problem about it!

But imagine Berlin or Paris or others would decide what to do with it IN Poland...can you imagine that outcry?

There is where the influence ends, you can only hope for a good gov who knows what to do with the support...but all in all I think Poland had better luck with economy savvy politicians than...say....Greece!

Let's say Germany is right. There is still a contradiction if most Greeks disagree.

Greece is a democratic country...they chose their government fair and square.

Lately they even chose a conservative gov again...not wanting to leave the Euro at all...so, with what exactly are they disagreeing? Surely not with receiving the solidarity!

Or...where is Varoufakis now?
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

They are simply afraid of the miners' rage

In Germany it's called "structural reforms"...the closing down of whole longstanding industries. It's one of the most demanding and expensive tasks for any government.

Short term minded politicians of course want to shy away from it...they have nothing to gain from it but costs and ire. Even if it will be necessary for the good of the country, they might lose the next election over it.
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

You can't get rich by receiving handouts.

That's not "handouts" or welfare...it's investment. When your industry is not able to compete you will never be able to pull your own weight. So most of this money is meant to get your economy up to par...so that you in the future no longer only export cheap laborers and in time will become an asset, maybe even a giver yourself.

West-Germany got this kind of help after WWII with the Marshall-plan and it is paid back thousandfold...East-Germany got this kind of help after the re-unification..and it ends now (end of the solidarity-tax 2021).

That's a huge difference than to pay welfare for people who can't help themselves!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

all the solidarity that Greece has received and its economy is still in the toilet....

Welfare/Solidarity is meant to prevent the worst....starving/freezing to death on the streets! It's a generous help to absorb the worst of life's shocks which can happen to everybody.

It's granted with the case in mind that the giver can become a taker and needing this help at one time in his life too. But it is always meant SHORT TERM, only as long till you get on your own feet again. But that you have to do yourself!

When you pay for strangers welfare and the recipient keeps on receiving without any signs of getting out of it, is it your fault now?

Germany feels self-righteous

Every giver feels self-righteous...and every taker feels not only gratefulness but also resentment....it' only human!

Greece is still poorer than it was before the euro.... a contradiction.

Now that is just a lie!

It doesn't even matter who's right and who's wrong

It matters alot!

tear the EU apart or simply turn it into a de facto German economic crypto-empire.

Only if the welfare recipients really truly want to stop the welfare...thinking they would be better off without!

The only ones tearing the EU apart could be the givers stop wanting to provide solidarity/welfare...
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

You can't enforce austerity and preach solidarity at the same time.

Solidarity by strangers for strangers is called welfare, maf!

There is a limit people are willing to pay for non-family members to support them. It's hard to convince someone who has to struggle himself to pay for far away peoples privileges. Solidarity can't be ordered at will, people will start to balk! Austerity of the recipient is the price to pay to keep up that solidarity! (And the biggest motive to end that dependency).