Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Not "useless" in this case. One Ukrainian guy wrote to me that it means a lot to them.

Language / Polish from Russian [14]


You're welcome!
Btw, you are a ballet student? I like ballet! 🤗


Bobko is a Russian living in New York, as far as I understand. There aren't that many Poles on this forum, I'm afraid...


True, but it doesn't mean that ordinary Russians and Poles can't be friends :)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

@BB, yeah, true! It was still the lowest vote for Ukraine of all the countries though ;D


Let us hope that music has some power and not only in the Serbian case... :)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

@Bratwurst Boy, yes, it was said on Polish TV that it was a commentary on the bad situation of healthcare in Serbia... I still don't like the song itself though, I can't help it...

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Yeah, that's what I'm saying! ;D


Cute and funny! :D


Yeah, the Serbian song was somewhat creepy/weird lol I didn't like it at all...

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

@BB, LOL!

Btw, it turns out that those 12 points given by the Polish jury to Ukraine were cancelled (together with the vote of 6 other countries)! Apparently because the Polish jury's choice was deemed not objective, but political:

globalhappenings.com/entertainment/179343.html

I don't think that's fair, considering that there are countries that vote for each other on Eurovision on regular basis and noone does anything about it (?)... So why punish countries giving 12 points to Ukraine all of a sudden?

Also, one judge from the Ukrainian jury said she gave 10 points to Polish song and so she doesn't understand why Poland got 0 points from Ukraine:

pudelek.pl/eurowizja-2022-ukrainska-jurorka-pokazuje-ze-dala-polsce-10-punktow-jestesmy-szczerze-wdzieczni-polskiemu-rzadowi-i-ludziom-za-wszystko-co-dla-nas-robia-6769170155338624a?fbclid=

I can't say I care about this whole drama though, I'm just happy that Ukraine won :) And in my opinion it was a deserved win, because I honestly love this song! ❤️

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

Btw:


Those female soldiers in "Stefania" aren't just for show - Ukrainian army has one of the biggest percentage of female soldiers among European armies.


Ah, yeah, when I congratulated one Ukrainian guy who's in Ukraine for the Eurovision win he started apologising to me for the Ukrainian jury vote, he wrote that he feels ashamed, etc. To be fair it's supposed to be a music contest and quite a few of other juries gave Poland 0 points.

Polish song got 12 points from the Ukrainian public in televoting though - it was the only country that gave us the highest vote, noone else did it and that's what matters the most to me! :)))

@jon357, I liked the Polish song, not only Ochman's voice! I've also watched people's reactions to Ochman's performance and many people loved the song :)) But I can understand that it can be not to everyone's taste :)


Yup. I've watched many reactions from different parts of the world to "Stefania" performed on the stage, but there are also first reactions to the new video clip - it looks like this guy understood everything well:

youtu.be/IAzy3YdiCUk

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

@Alien, what do you mean?

New video clip to the winning "Stefania" by Kalush Orchestra has been released. Unfortunately Ukrainians didn't need a film set to make this video - it was filmed in Bucha, Irpin, Borodyanka and Hostomel :(:

youtu.be/Z8Z51no1TD0
😢

Language / Polish from Russian [14]


If you're anti-Putin that's enough for me :) And if you're interested in Poland and Polish culture then it's even better :))) I've come across some Russians who are wonderful people :)


No, definitely not. I started learning English seriously only at highschool, when I was 15/16 years old. And it looks like you have a knack for learning languages :)


I don't know, it depends how much time and effort you'll invest in learning. My guess is that, considering that you know Ukrainian already, if you study on regular basis then you should have some fairly decent grasp of the language after a year maybe? But once you have some Polish language basics from a language course I think that to become fluent it's important to immerse yourself in the language somehow - by watching Polish films, TV series, reading stuff in Polish and you could try to interact with Polish people on the internet, for example.

There are YouTube videos where people teach Polish, if not in Russian, then in Ukrainian. Ukrainians living in Poland also have YouTube channels in which they talk about studying Polish language, reality, culture, etc.

Here are some Polish basics lessons on YouTube in Russian:

youtu.be/vuHBND0dqVM

youtu.be/VybjxBd_d3Q

I found a video of that guy from the first link giving advice on how to learn Polish fast (at first he talks a bit in Polish, but the rest of the video is in Russian):

youtu.be/MCM7b9aiQRI

Btw, I thought that this guy is Polish :O But he's from Belarus :O Wow, his Polish is perfect :O And he has no accent!

Btw, I forgot to add that if you're anti-Putin then you have nothing to worry about as far as Polish people in general are concerned. They will love you :))) Unless you're some kind of Stalin-loving communist, of course ;P

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

@Crnogorac3, it isn't any "exchange", people of Europe simply have shown that their hearts are with Ukraine.


45%
And Russia is doing that to Ukraine.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Nope. Those were Ukrainian musicians, singing in Ukrainian and incorporating beautiful Ukrainian folklore into the song and costumes and they were respresenting Ukraine.


No, it won't be.


;D
BB, maybe your time will come - look at the UK! :D

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


I think it depends on the taste, tbh, that song wasn't my favourite... But he was good, I agree :)


Members of Kalush Orchestra looked very happy :)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


From the public! :) You got more points from people than a few other songs, as far as I remember, so congrats! 👏


That was a huge vote from the public! :O :D
❤️

And congrats to the UK for the second place! :D 👏

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

OMG, YEEESSSS!!! THANK YOU, EUROPE!!! 💛💙

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


BB ;D

My favourites are:

1. Ukraine
2. Poland (obviously ;D)
3. The Netherlands
4. Armenia
5. Portugal
6. Moldova (because it was funny, fun and catchy xD)
7. Germany (would be higher, if the singer had better voice)

The rest was either bad, not sang well enough, not my thing or not memorable enough for me personally, I guess.


The song was good and well sang.


The song was nice and he has a very good voice, but the look was as if from a different time - not my thing in this respect :)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

Guys, are you watching? French song was bad ;O (or maybe that's just not my thing) So far I only liked the Armenian (cool idea with the scenography :)) and Portuguese entry.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

@BB, I've just watched the German entry on YouTube and it's a nice song! Maybe the singer's voice isn't very impressive, but he can sing and that's a good, normal song, so you have nothing to be embarrassed about :))

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Now imagine that it would be actually the case - I mean, Australia could swap places with Russia... Russia would be far away with no neighbours to invade lol And we would have a cool neighbour with koalas and kangaroos... 🤗 The only problem would be the rest of the things living there that want to kill you lol

I haven't watched any of the semifinals, I only watched Poland and Ukraine on YouTube. I like both entries a lot. Ukrainian song is great, cool, original, funky and fun, but at the same time beautiful thanks to that ethnic, traditional vibe and the touching topic. Btw, I've noticed that people really dig that flute, so, in case anyone wondered what it is:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenka

Poland's entry is great too, Krystian Ochman has an amazing voice :O And no wonder - he's grandpa is an opera singer! And I like the song, I can't believe that we've sent something that good to Eurovision xD I think this is the best Polish entry that I've personally heard since Edyta Górniak! Nice! 👏

And here's both Kalush Orchestra and Ochman performing together the Ukrainian Eurovision entry with Ochman singing in Ukrainian :) (he's the one partly dressed in white):

youtu.be/NrBCVF60bnI

✌️

🇵🇱❤️🇺🇦

Po polsku / Polska miedzy Niemcami i Rosja. Zalety i wady. [512]


Mam nadzieję, że nie. Moim zdaniem to byłoby okrutne. Jemu nic się nie stało - to była tylko sztuczna krew. A on i jego mocodawcy mają prawdziwą ludzką krew na rękach.

Rosyjskiego ambasadora w ogóle nie powinno być już w Polsce. Nie wiem co on jeszcze tu robi. Tzn. wiem - szpieguje i powtarza kremlowskie kłamstwa. Ale czemu polskie władze na to pozwalają? Polskich dyplomatów też już nie powinno być w Rosji, imho.

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]

@Strzelec35, there are nationalists and xenophobes in every country plus Poland and Ukraine don't have an easy history, so there are going to be some frictions. But there are also a lot of Russian trolls active on Polish social media. Some set up fake accounts and pose as Poles and some even hack and take over accounts of real Polish people in order to spread Russian propaganda and cause hostility between Poles and Ukrainians. I found such hacked account myself some time ago on Facebook.


I've already explained this issue in this post:

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-aid-ukraine-russia-invades-87053/331/#msg1847559

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]


Warsaw mayor didn't outlaw Ukrainian flags lol Ukrainian flags simply won't be displayed on public buses by the city on everyday basis anymore, that's all.

Life / What do Poles really think about cats? [470]


If she could, she would be meowing in such situations, but since she can't, she's hissing :)


How can you hate such cute furr balls?? :)

Hmm, you've been accused of hate crime against cats! Paws up! You are under purrest! ;):

youtu.be/Nezn5yW97hI

Life / What do Poles really think about cats? [470]

@pawian, cute paintings :)))


What about that black kitty? As far as I remember it wouldn't meow? What about now?

Genealogy / Need some feedback direction on names/locations! Makaruk, Savchuk, Lenz, Fenske / Cherdia, Drazna [13]


I think it's most likely that it's the name "Kiril" spelt wrong:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiril


It's simply "Dmitry" spelt wrong:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry


At first I thought it's misspelt "Theodosia", but I googled "Feodosia" and it turned out it's a name of a port and resort in Crimea:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feodosia

Considering that your relatives are Ukrainian, I think there may be some likelihood that they wanted to be original and named her after that town (because their family came from there, for example).

In Polish this town is called "Teodozja":

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teodozja_(miasto)

Also, "Feodosia" is listed as "other names" in Wikipedia note about the name "Theodosia":

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodosia_(given_name)

As for Savchuk - it's a common Ukrainian surname:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savchuk

In Polish it's spelled "Sawczuk":

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katarzyna_Sawczuk

When you google it there are people with surnames like "Savchun" or Polish "Sańczuk", but "Savchuk" is the most common, it seems.

Genealogy / Trouble pinpointing for certain the following surnames [9]

@Pleuvoir, check out this thread:

https://polishforums.com/language/ethnic-backround-suffixes-surnames-72736/

"Other typical suffixes of the Ukrainian group are -uk, -czuk (Andrzejuk, Antoniuk, Chilimoniuk, Filipiuk, Grygoruk, Jasiuk, Kononiuk, £ukaszuk, Pawluczuk, Pietruczuk)."


Definitely Ukrainian. There are Poles with surname "Makaruk" (probably with Ukrainian roots), but "Demetry" isn't a Polish name.

Love / How are lesbians seen in Poland (more info inside)? [30]


Portia de Rossi didn't have to be "edgy" to be on TV - she gained popularity by playing a hot heterosexual lawyer on "Ally McBeal" TV series. She came out as a lesbian only after she got into a relationship with Ellen DeGeneres.


She's Czech :)

@Strzelec35, she's 30, so she's too old for you lol


How do you know? And how would you explain those "exceptions" - why do they exist?

And are gay men homosexual, according to you, because they're ugly and women didn't want them? lol

What about bisexual people of both sexes? How do you homophobes explain their existence? :D

Love / How are lesbians seen in Poland (more info inside)? [30]



She's a lesbian:



Is she ugly? You think she would have a problem with finding a guy? lol

Classifieds / Szczecin Apartment [3]

@JW77, write a post in this group with your request (you can write in English):

facebook.com/groups/pomocdlaukrainypl/?ref=share

History / How much Poles trust to France? [130]


And what if you're wrong and Le Pen will be even worse than Macron? You like her only because she's a nationalist - like you. That's a selfish, stupid and dangerous attitude.

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


You mean reconciliation between Poles and Ukrainians?


You mean Ukrainian refugees being sent by Russians to filtration camps, the pro-Ukrainian ones disappearing without a trace and the rest being sent to far away areas of Russia and kept there against their will, allegedly forced to work for free, Ukrainian children being taken away from their parents, put into orphanages and set up for adoption by Russian couples so they could be brainwashed into being Russians? Yes, I'm very concerned about that too. Those are Stalinist and Nazi-like methods.