History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

....a good starting point for discussions! :)

But even if we could sow the seeds of doubt why should he admit it? What would it bring him in a hostile forum? More mockery and denigration?

The more he is attacked (not for his political views) but for his "Russianness", the more he feels the need to defend his home country for his whole history, how good to you believe would the chances become of him changing his point of view concerning Putin and Ukraine?

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]


But we are not talking with Hitler or Stalin here, not even with Putin himself, that's the point.

Where starting to discuss things and yes, learning WHY someone does what he does if not through TALKING?

If you had the chance to talk with some real living Gefreiter back then and maybe make him think twice about what happens because of Hitler and the Nazis and what he is actually part of, would you still keep hitting him with insults and humiliate his pride? What would change that?

Maybe with talking boards like PF and Internet back then the catastrophe even could have avoided....but for that it would need people never giving up the talking with the "other" like Torqi!

Don't forget, such internet forum isn't only between the actual posters....these messages are read by countless others who might not take part actively, but where else do you get the chance to influence their thoughts and impressions through your argumentation like this?

And longterm arguments will always win over insults!

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Very interesting, thanks! :)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

....what else would have been better in his opinion? Ignoring Ukraine?

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....keep that in mind when UK lands next time again down at the bottom! 😁

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*nods*

One of the main reasons Germany ends up so often where it does....instead of skilled artists with experience and a fanbase and a style and a recognition factor we send nobodies with totally interchangable, generic songs/lyrics written by people who just don't care....not even a show is thought out.....nothing to capture the people....totally forgettable....

But it seems that is exactly what the old people on top of the NDR want and like....it boggles the mind! *throws hands up in the air*

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Nah....France got zero points last time....there was no war in Europe back then....and Germany ended down there before too before, or won with Lena in the meantime....to put it all on political reasons doesn't explain everything...it's to easy..."they don't like us sniff sniff* is crap!

We send sh*it regularly....that's all there is....the german broadcaster NDR is to blame for that (Lena for example was managed by a private station for a change to make all the difference, but it was the same Germany which got low or no points before and again afterwards with entries from the NDR, heh:)

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....maybe it still makes the waves in Serbia and things change for the better....the power of music, you know?

I was surprised that Ukraine got still 7 points out of Serbia, from the public vote at that...with all that Putinistas there! :)

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....but I've heard that the singer complained with the song about the bad quality of hospital care in Serbia....people die needlessly....a serious problem there it seems!

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It's the Eurovision!!! Heeelllooooooo??? :)

That is so cute....a great summary for this years contest.....not for Germany of course!



reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/uq303y/eurovision_2022_results/

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Now that had to be :)



reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/uq4x0r/posteurovision_mood_swings/

Nice graphics for the voting from every country...

eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2022

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Revolution first! (Or Jürgen Klopp, heh:)

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....and Germany will get 12 points from everybody! 🤓

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....he could sing, you have to give him that....even the highest notes!

Whoa!


twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1525622615490146306

😁

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Ewan Spence from the Eurovision Insight Podcast told the Guardian from Turin that "throughout the week, the singers, the broadcasters, the community have proudly stood with Kalush Orchestra and Ukraine. This will always stand as a victory at Eurovision; but it means so much more. It is the grandest gesture of love to the people of Ukraine from every single corner of every single country in Europe and beyond."

theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/may/15/ukraine-wins-2022-eurovision-song-contest-as-uk-finishes-second-in-turin

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....still....it's time to change a system that is so obviously not working in Germany (and shoot the responsible)😎

But that was such a clear vote from the whole of Europe for Ukraine!!!! YES! :)

Abit sad for the "Space Man" though....in every other contest the UK would have won with that....he was good!

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YEEEEESSSSSS!!!!! 😃

The public knows you need to support a people fighting for their very lives!

...otherwise UK would had been a worthy winner...and we got a few points too...so I'm okay with this Eurovision! 😁

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....pleasepleasepleaseUKRAINEpleasepleaseplease...

Don't kick a whelp!

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We got points....whew....😅

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....I fear for Ukraine though....

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12 Points for UK from Germany....I KNEW IT! :)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

Wow....a 7 from you....that would mean a point...or two, heh:)

Oh come on....Ukraine needs the points!!!

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

I liked the UK entry...

runs and hides

Usually you could count on the Brits to be "down there" with no points with us Germans, heh:)

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...I wish we would really help the people in Mariupol/Azovstal...

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....I don't dare....

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My personal favourites during the '20er:

Unheilig - Geboren um zu leben

Xavier Naidoo - Dieser Weg
(our football hymn back then)

Glasperlenspiel - Geiles Leben and Nie vergessen

Sportfreunde Stiller - Ein Kompliment

Peter Fox - Haus am See

Just a few out of my mind....there are more because we have some real good stuff (Rammstein?)....but we never send any of them and nobody knows why???

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*pouts and shuffles feet*

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*looks enviously over at Poland*

Whereas Germany is set again to go out with ZERO points....can you believe it! 🙄

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

I can do without Morocco but Israel has had some cool entries in the past...they have had now such a long history with the Eurovision they have become part of it! :)

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It seems there needs to be a connection with Eurovision:

...Although Australia is not in Europe, Eurovision has been broadcast in the country for over 30 years. In 2014, the year before it would compete for the first time, viewing figures in the country peaked at 2.7 million....

walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/tv/eurovision-2022-can-australia-compete-23944239

And Israel:

...Israel showed strong interest in the competition from the very beginning and it paid off very soon; they won for the first time in Paris in 1978 with the song A-Ba-Ni-Bi performed by Izhar Cohen and the Alphabeta. The Eurovision Song Contest travelled to Jerusalem in 1979 where Israel won the competition for the second time in a row...

I can only guess that the Eurovision isn't such a big thing in Nigeria....is it in the US?