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gumishu   
16 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

I guess sythetic fuel from coal made in Fischer-Tropff process was not economic in the times of low oil prices - there has been proposals for building such an installation in Poland though (and they will surely return whith oil prices rising)

however coal gas as a fuel is not without problems - first of all it's dangerous because it contains a lot of carbon monoxide (which is very toxic) - it also contains hydrogen and therefore is a serious explosive hazard - the productions isn't clean - there is an huge array of potential polutant by-products of which many are difficult to manage (benzene, tar-water emulsions) - then there still remains the question if the process is economical compared to simple coal burning in power plants - untill late 80's coal gas was used quite extensively - Silesia and nearby areas where supplied with 'gaz koksowniczy' (which is very similar thing) in the same manner natural gas is provided now
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

For all the things you've said so far man, you've only provided one link.,...about a coral reef....could you please provide links to where you're getting your other information? Teach me something new and put your money where your mouth is.

you don't mind Private Messages smurf, do you? - there is a big chance the thread will be dead or you will miss newer posts - so I ask if you don't mind PM's from me about the topic
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Poland as a developed country has its role to play. Why not be at the forefront rather than lagging behind?

you know - Russia was once at the forefront of communism - is it always good to be at the forefront? - btw Poland can actually be at the forefront: at the forefront against the surge of stupid ideology
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

if sea levels would be rising noticeably it will be easily observed on various piers - I don't think this is what we are seing at the moment - if the rise has been 10 cm in some 20 last years it would have been noticed on the said piers and secondly it wouldn't affect even the likes of Kiribati and Maledives
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

I don't have anything as trashy as a TV but I do keep up to date on current events. Here's one of thousands of reports on the effect man-made climate change is having on Kiribati. I'm not sure what you think tides have to do with it, but rising sea levels are all to visible there.

I am not sure there has ever been any fresh ground water on Kiribati in living memory pal - this is coral - this is low lying - evaporation far exceeds the rainfall - pacificwater.org/pages.cfm/country-information/kiribati.html

and displacement may be caused by drought which leads to lack of drinking water and not serious rising of sea level - but if someone has an agenda they will not disclose facts that don't fit his agenda
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

The battle to demonstrate that it is caused by human activity has also triumphed it's only a few who don't accept the science. Discussing with them is like trying to get religious converts, almost pointless except that they are very well funded and fundamentally dishonest polluting the media with junk conclusions.

there can be simply other explanations to why the earth is warming - it is enough if there are statistically less clouds in summer months for whatever reason (there may be reasons we don't actually yet know or understand) to produce the observed warming - and pushing one theory is what I call dishonest

The population of Kiribati have to leave soon and the Maldives are threatened. Next will be lowland Bangladesh.

heh - you've seen it or just repeat whatever you hear on the TV? - for one thing Kiribati and Maledives experience the least of tides on the ocean so the rising ocean levels would be pretty obvious there (unless the islands are sinking because of geological processes)

btw if you cared to look the NOAA images show that the extent of ice floes in Davies strait, Baffin Bay and off the Labrador coast this year are biggest in years
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

the factors involved and their interdependencies are extremely complex.

and not thouroughly investigated - OK? - and we use simplistic reasonings - like saying Sun revolves around the earth

The battle to demonstrate that it is caused by human activity has also triumphed it's only a few who don't accept the science. Discussing with them is like trying to get religious converts, almost pointless except that they are very well funded and fundamentally dishonest polluting the media with junk conclusions.

the thing is I can safely call you a CO2 warming believer - because you don't know the realities just accept what you are being fed based on some assumptions you made (which you cannot be simply sure of unless you positively make yourself believe they are THE truth)

I am not sure those arguments I have found against the role of human carbon emissions in global warming are perfectly true - but if some (retired) scientist states that there is no good correlation between rapid warmings and coolings in the ice ages and the atmosphere's CO2 contents then I tend to listen to it because I think there is enough poeple with agendas around the world who would want me to believe the contrary
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Sea levels are rising,

where?

All agree that the earth is warming

I don't argue with the realization that earth is warming - I argue with a simplistic reasoning that human Co2 emissions are responsible - and I argue with feeding people that idea untill we prove it beyond doubt

for eg, suggesting that the environment self regulates (Oceans sucking up CO2 spewed out by Volcanoes) in the way you hope is just wishful thinking. That neat idea though elegant is directly contradicted by the data so a conspiracy is the only way to explain the logical flaw

i don't claim Earth self-regulates perfectly - I say we don't know enough to be able to judge - judge not by apperances you know - btw that CO2 has been greatly reduced from the atmosphere through natural processes is actually a common understanding among geologists
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

if we would get rid of 20 per cent of greenhouse gases from the atmosphere we would probably get an ice age - smurf I understand that you are concerned but I think you overestimate your understanding of things - learn a new thing each day and you will be wiser

Yea, that's right but what happens when those trees and flowers die? Yea, that's right the CO2 is released into the atmosphere

actually smurf - plant matter (cellusose and ligninins, also various waxes and resins) is quite slow to decay - otherwise we wouldn't have any coal today - just go to the forest near you and I can safely guarantee you that the leaves that have fallen 10 year ago are still there for the most part - yes dead plant matter is a HUGE retainer of CO2 - if you don't believe then tell me where did all those heaths and bogs in Britain and Ireland come from - and I can tell you that in some parts of Ireland a good couple of meters of bog formed in about 5 thousands of years - and guess what? - it is mostly carbon - it's nearly a permaments carbon sink

Maybe not to your high levels, but they've been doing their best and according to this, the oceans have soaked up quite a lot of emissions and it's had a terrible effect on sea life.

CO2 emissions in itself are not a huge hazzard to marine life - CO2 is not a direct polutant in the amounts we release (I don't say fossil fuel burning doesn't cause pollution but CO2 is not a pollutant in itself) - marine life has been hit by many other substances we release to the oceans as well as the ecologic imbalances produced (toxic algae blooms) by the phosphorus and nitrogen we deliver to the seas and oceans

So we should do absolutely nothing? Just let the chips fall like they may

over-reacting can be sometimes much more harmful than not reacting smurf (but I believe you are not really ready to recognize it)
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

The debate took place during the 1980s and the overwhelming view of the scientific community is that the earth is warming due to human activity.

in medieval Europe there was a universal agreement between scientists that the Sun was revolving around the Earth
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

you got better arguments? or can you actually void my arguments in other ways than saying they are crap?

btw - I don't argue there is some global warming - if it is measurable how can I deny it - the thing is there is no good proof human made CO2 emissions are responsible
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Poland has already cut emissions fairly drastically, another twenty percent seems perfectly doable.

Poland didn't deliberately cut any emissions - the big decrease in emissions from Poland stems from a number of industries shutting down since 1989 (but was approved as emission cuts in Kyoto protocol) - the new European climatic agreement has a much later date as a base to calculate reductions - Poland will have to cut emissions or pay for them (and they are going to be pricey) - either way it will cost Poland A LOT of money -

as for sequestering CO2 in the earth - nobody in the world has done that on large scale so far - you cannot just pump C02 into the ground - you need to have specific geologic structures (like emptied natural gas beds) that are C02 tight enough - these are often hundreds of miles aways from power plants - and power plants exhausts including CO2 are not natural gas in that they are corrosive (the more water vapour is in the exhausts the more corrosive they are and there is no practical fuel on the earth that does not produce water vapour in burning) - the cost of pipelines would be enourmous my friend because they would have to be made from special grade corrosive resistant steel - and as far as I know this kind of steel is not so readily welded)

I'm not going to rehash the global warming debate, and neither should Poland

NO - actually Poland SHOULD voice any doubts there are about CO2 driven global warming and LOUD - somebody HAS TO
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

it is a scam - 1. human emissions of CO2 consist only a couple per cent of yearly emissions into the atmosphere - (say 3 per cent) - all other emission is natural - one big volcano eruption releases as much CO2 as yearly human emissions - and volcanoes also constantly emit CO2 - CO2 is emiitted from the earth crust in certain areas

2. CO2 in the atmosphere accounts to less than 20 per cent of greenhouse effect in the atmosphere - in certain conditions up to 95 per cent of greenhouse effect comes from water vapour

3. there is no good correlation between CO2 levels in the atmosphere (as examined in the ice cores from Antarctic and Greenland) and the temperatures during the ice ages (with the events of CO2 levels rising and temperature falling)

4. there is no good CO2 budget evaluation on the earth so far - scientist haven't reliably evaluated ocean CO2 'sink' so far - there are also negative feedbacks in the biosphere against rising level of CO2 - plants grow considerably faster in higher levels of CO2 binding it

5. there is a negative feedback in the earth's atmosphere against warming - this is called clouds which raise earth's albedo significantly - the mean daily temperature in the height of June in Poland under a thick cloud cover can be lower than 10 centigrades while in the full sun it can easily rise above 30 degrees (and a mean temperature throughout the day can be above 20 degrees)
gumishu   
15 Mar 2012
News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

because Poland would have to dismantle it's coal powered energy sector and switch to Russian gas and it would cost us bilions and billions - this is one point

the other point is that the whole human CO2 emission driven global warming is a scam and Polish politicians don't believe in it (and it is a scam unless you are a believer)

already agreed part of the deal that was signed in 2008 can possibly raise Polish electricity prices by 100 per cent before 2020 (and the goals are still unrealistic for Poland because there is no way we can have 20 per cent of our energy from renewable sources in this economic climate) - the electiricity bills will start rising already next year and it's gonna be drastic (like 40-50 per cent) - the whole sectors of Polish economy can shut down because of that (like paper and cement production) with people without jobs

btw - the most Co2 emissions in Europe come from transportation - and the richest countries have more per capita emissions from that source than Poland (Germany has even double) and most of these countries are more populous than Poland - the whole agreement specifically targets coal powered energy production and you[ve got your answer
gumishu   
13 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

I really wish a linguistics expert were here regarding this.

I think why black people in Poland (I would think only those who were not born here into the Polish language) don't want to be called Murzyn/Murzynka (or find it derogatory) is the dictionary tranlastion they can find of the word (which is I guess negro) - in all truth Polish Murzyn doesn't have any derogatory or dismissive connotations of English 'negro' - it just leads to misunderstandings - while Polish people mean no harm, no scorn and no belittling using words Murzyn and Murzynka, Black people still think they are slighted
gumishu   
13 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

I'm surprised you haven't used the expression 'PC Brigade'!

it's because I like to talk matter not call names - and I still am of an opinion you are not in a position to judge on more or less subtle connotations of words used in Polish especially in their figurative meanings - btw there are no good replacements for murzyn in Polish language especially for colloquial language
gumishu   
13 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

And no 'Gumishu' the word murzyn is not neutral, especially with the connotations you describe.

said an English guy, who can;t follow a Polish cabaret sketch (so he tell's it is not funny - yeah sure those bloody Poles don't have a pinch of sense of humour - 90 per cent of Poles laugh their heads of watching the sketch) - you sure have studied Polish philology, haven't you? or just transplanting your perceptions of the word negro to the word murzyn, huh?

first of all 'murzyn' is not racist
gumishu   
13 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

gumishu:
I doubt you can get humour from Polish cabaret shows

There would actually have to be some humour in the first place, beyond slapstick and hackneyed political satire.

so you just simply don't get Polish humour and are being defensive about it on top of that

we'll make some test? OK? - it;s a test on your knowledge of Polish more than your sense of humour to be sure : ...

After all, if you think the word 'murzyn' is inherently positive you can't be a very good judge of language, can you?

I never said 'murzyn' is some superlative - it's a regular neutral word in the literal meaning and not in the slightest derogatory, or dismissive for someone who is called 'murzyn' figuratively (at least by those who are on the same level - perhaps those 'murzyn' exploiters use it in dismissive ways)
gumishu   
13 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

JonnyM

ok, suit yourselves - after all you know some Polish - (I doubt you can get humour from Polish cabaret shows, but hey nobody's perfect - to put it straight I meant who are you to judge what connotations verbs and phrases have in Polish with your level of Polish)
gumishu   
13 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

Why would it be appropriate to use a word in the figurative sense only if it is used in singular form, but if used in plural form, it's inappropriate?

who said inapriopriate in plural - Poles say often about themselves : 'Białych murzynów z nas zrobili' - They made white slaves of us. (slave is just the most appriopriate translation into English and not a literal one)

No it's not.Murzyn or murzyni may sound a bit offensive to Africans when used in Sto lat za murzynami indicating low (lowest) level of development or zapierdalam jak biały murzyn as clearly nobody wants to be biały murzyn.

but it doesn't make a word murzyn dismissive even not to say derogatory - it just comes from the observation black Africans were backward

gumishu:
the point of the criticism in the word is towards those who use those murzyni

This is the point really. When I used to do factory work back in the eighties, the crappest job in the factory was always called the 'Irish job'. A similarity in many ways.

one big difference is there were no actual 'murzyns' black people doing those 'Irish jobs' in Poland- and in Polish also it bears a connotation that ;murzyn is a over-exploited (slaved) with no hint to their inferiorness or lower capabilities - as I said figurative meaning of 'murzyn' has a definite point of criticism toward those who are using the 'murzyn's' work
gumishu   
13 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

What isn't derogatory about associating a group of people with basic grunt work. If you disagree, why not propose that factories should henceforth refer to workers doing the most basic, repetitive unskilled jobs as 'Poles'. Would you consider that derogatory or not?

Come to think of it.......

you are just simply oversensitive - murzyn in a figurative meaning is not derogatory either, the point of the criticism in the word is towards those who use those murzyni

(like in a saying - Im się chyba wydaje że sobie murzyna znaleźli. They probably think they have found some slave for the job.)
gumishu   
12 Mar 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

The origin of a word odd irrelevant. The use of a word is all that matters.

the thing is it is a regular word for a black person of African origin (other black people like Australian aborigenes or Melanesians or even very dark south Indians have their own specific names and are not typically called 'Murzyni' though it was a bit different historically)

if someone wants to call a black person offensively in Polish they use words like 'czarnuch' (extremely offensive - surprisingly enough 'czernoch' is a regular word for black person in Czech language), 'bambus' (literally 'bamboo' but it originates from 'Murzynek Bambo' by Julian Tuwim) or 'asfalt' (literally tarmac)

other neutral words for black people have typically different meaning to murzyn: czarnoskóry means literally black-skinned (but remember that Murzyn has a meaning of African black) - so Australian aborigene is equally czarnoskóry, czarny - is a touch too close to czarnuch to be an innocent word; Afrykanin doesn't equal to murzyn as there are Arabic, Berberic, and Chamitic Africans who are not Murzyni (and there are also white Africans after all - biali Afrykanie)

Any word is racist if it is used in an aggressive or derogatory way.

murzyn doesn't carry offensive load because it is a regular word for a black African person - it's like stating that Englishman or Pole is derogatory - if Polish person wants to be derogatory towards the English they say 'Angole' not 'Anglicy', likewise if English people want to use derogatory, dismissive term for Polish people they say 'Pollacks' instead of 'Poles'
gumishu   
12 Mar 2012
Genealogy / SKI...SKY...ZKI...Polish surname endings [38]

it's an adjectival suffix that mostly denotes area or place of origin of something (or showing some other connection with the place area) - it can be translated as 'of a place'

Kraków - krakowski = (of Kraków)
Kowalewo - kowalewski - (of Kowalewo)
Kowale - Kowalski - (of Kowale)
Warszawa - warszawski - (of Warszawa)

however -ski (-ska, -skie) adjectives can be created not only of place names - with a meaning of '-like' it is added to various nouns and you've got - przyjacielski (friendly), męski (manly or gents'), żeński (feminine), ludzki (human or humane)

in even broader class of man related names (like names of professions) -ski means belonging to the profession/art - młot kowalski - blacksmith's hammer, zestaw malarski - painting (painter's) set, kadź barwierska - dyer's vat, pieśń żołnierska - soldierly (soldiers') song,

the suffix has a quite defined history in Slavic languages (all Slavic languages share it) - and it is cognate (the developement of the same origin) to English -ish, -sh suffix (as in Polish, English, Welsh) - in English it developed from -isk, -sk suffix which is still present in Scandinavian languages (in Danish you;ve got Dansk=Danish, Engelsk=English, Norsk=Norwegian, Swensk=Swedish, Polsk=Polish, Tysk=German (Deutsch), Jysk= Jutlandish (of Jutland), Rysk = Russian

the most probable occurence is that -sk suffix originated in Germanic languages suffix originally used for nations and lands and was borrowed from Germanic Gothic language into Slavic when the two languages were in contact in late antiquity to very early middle ages (sharing the fate of many other borrowings from Gothic to Slavic which are still present in most Slavic languages)
gumishu   
6 Mar 2012
History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

Apologies for the google translate!

google translate makes this quote of your pointless

I was told about this by my family member .His grandma helped the Jews and was afraid of the neighbors.

had anybody outside of the family found out about this grandma concealing Jews? if so then you have your answer - not all Poles were hostile to Jews or greedy enough to mug them - the thing is even if those hostile to Jews or greedy enough to harrass those Jews in hiding were a significant minority they still were to be feared by those who helped Jews - pretty obvious, no?? - so what grand conclusions do you want to draw out of this simple statement about that grandma
gumishu   
6 Mar 2012
History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

Jedwabne było w każdej wsi - said a woman whose father was a witness to detention, rape and other violence against Jews in hiding in a village somewhere in Podkarpacie by their Polish neighbours (£ańcut area) - the Jews were then denounced to German authorities who killed them on spot

the thing is 'Jedwabne było w każdej wsi' is her own stipulation for the most part

I know you read Polish aphro - so have a read about Jews and farming in Poland

Popular - not only in Poland - the stereotype of the Jew presented solely as a resident of the city, small or big, engaged in trade or craft, lacking the ability and desire to work in the fields. It is true that in the years between wars the vast majority of the Jewish community in Poland lived in urban areas and engaged in a variety of non-agricultural professions. The traditional stereotype, as well as the occupational structure makes many researchers to treat marginal the agricultural occupations when examining the structure of the Jewish community in Poland. As a result, it is often forgotten that in Poland there were also Jewish agriculture, both in the form of small farms, as well as estates. Jews were also gardening, providing products for the industrial plant (tobacco cultivation) or individual urban consumers (horticultural, gardening). Moreover, the Jewish tradition of agriculture in Poland dates back many centuries.

sztetl.org.pl/pl/term/114,rolnictwo
gumishu   
6 Mar 2012
History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

btw I haven't watched the video and now it looks like it's gone - the title was pretty controversial and that's why it's gone most probably - by the way aphro do you positively ;) believe Jedwabne happened in every Polish village (btw Jedwabne was not a village but a small town - Jews didn't typically live in farming villages as they mostly never farmed in Poland (why farm when you can earn more by trading))
gumishu   
6 Mar 2012
History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

maybe I missed it but I don't recall reading his advocating anyone be killed in his post.

there is a phrasal verb in Polish - patrzeć komuś na ręce - it means to watch closely what one is doing - if you suggest that we should closely watch what Jews are doing you will soon get a label of an anti-semite if not a fascist