History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


I was wasn't reflecting on Chinese culture, and i think we have already established that it is you who is the real racist, have you forgotten what you have written earlier when i showed you the antics of your countrymen?

But i guess you are using you favorite trick Of soviet propaganda, by trying to implicate your adversary with your adversary's enemy, just like the Soviets did with the AK?

But I am glad you have this favorable view of China, after all Mao Zedong and Stalin have a lot in common wouldn't you agree?

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


Well in that case you should better adopt to Chinese and Islamic cultural practices. LOL

I understand that wife beating is de rigueur amongst Russian alcoholics, so at least that is something they have in common with the Muslims(:

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]

Yes if all else fails deny reality, I am sorry Costi, but I have never seen anyone win an argument by sticking their head in the sand(:

I haven't heard of any latent racism in Poland or Europe, but i hear about in Russia very frequently. But if you believe that it exists, and as you say the Russian minorities will mix with the Russian population, that will be even more reason to dislike the Russians.

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]

Costi, when are you going to live in the real world. Russia is a notoriously racist country, didn't you ever hear about the attacks of Russian skinheads on other Russians of different ethnicity. Mmmmm.... wait of course not, you only get your information from Russian media, which as we have established before not free and biased. So here let me enlighten:

Young and racist in Saint Petersburg
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Xenophobia in Russia 'out of control'
youtu.be/S8zKfluSsuE

Attacks Against Minorities Up in Russia. ruSSiaracism
youtu.be/2GvBh8PZnmw

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4969296.stm

Do you need any more information? I think we can say that Polish racism does not even come close to the Russian standard. you should broaden your mind and stop sourcing you information from Russian government propaganda.


And when that happens then you will be even less attractive to the Poles that's if your country does not break out into internecine racial warfare. (: so I guess you can't we can you Costi?

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]

It should make for an interesting mix in a few decades time, at last we won't have to quibble about whether Russia is a European or Or Asian country, we will be able to place it firmly in the Asian camp. So I guess there won't be any need for them to apply to join the EU, it will be like the old days when they found themselves under the Mongol Yoke.

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


Well I am glad that you are amused, But i doubt if Politovskaya, Chodkovsky, Litvinienko and others are as amused as you. What you don't understand is that in civilized countries you cannot dispatch people on the whim of the government, nor can you sanction a free media. Your response to my post is proof positive about how untrustworthy and one sided the Russian media is.

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


I wonder if Costi has ever heard th Polish joke:

Why do Poles pray for a Chinese invasion?

answer: because they will march through Russia twice!

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


But you see Costi, In Poland we have a free media which tries to be accurate and objective, whilst your countrymen are brainwashed by your state dominated media, which only reports what the government wants it to. If they not they get killed like Politovskaya.

So why should i bother myself with reading badly informed Russian opinion, when the Polish opinion of Russia is far more accurate?

Instead of wasting your time on this thread, you should subscribe to to some pro democracy forum to liberate Russia from its current semi dictatorial status. Just be careful when you hear a knock on the door in the dead of night(:

A far more relevant question is, what is the Russian opinion of China and vice versa.

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]

Quite a good assessment.

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


Indeed, and I am sure the same sentiment is shared in countless other countries, it is not perfect but it is not too bad.


I am not sure which memories you subscribe to.

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


There is no comparison, besides Poland is going i the right direction, and for the most part the parties abide by the law-except for PIS which was an aberration.

As for trial by Jury that is a common law invention-In Poland it is the experts who decide, like in the Netherlands for instance, and many other European countries that do not abide by common law traditions. It is a perfectly satisfactory system.

In addition to this, unlike Russia, Poland has a history of civil rights to draw upon.

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


Would that be the incorporation of Russian into western civil norms, such as the rule of law, innocence before guilt, democratic elections etc. As opposed to the present very aptly described

by some diplomats 'mafia sate'?

Tell me Costi have you ever been wronged by your local government or administration in any way. Who do you turn to in Russia for justice? Or are most Russians simply resigned to living in a lawless state in which the mafia does what it likes?

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


Good question, probably because we do not like to be governed by people less intelligent than ourselves.


would this be the reason why?

Hołd Ruski

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]

I have seen the same documentary, but that wasn't what got me angry. The German propaganda about Poles charging tanks did-since this just wasn't the case.

Anyhow with a depleted air force you cannot respond in kind.


You see that is the difference between Poles and Russians, completely different values.
East is east and West is West and never the twain shall meet....


This is for you Costi

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


I think you summed it up quite well, since Bolshevism was a disease that was highly destructive, and as such its elimination was of benefit to humankind. I think that most people would be in agreement.

After all the life of a Polish entrepreneur/capitalist(a creator of wealth), would have been far more valuable than the life of a bolshevik parasite, who tired to steal the wealth created by another man.

You should ask some of your mafia friends in the Russian government for confirmation, i think that they have had a 360 degree conversion to capitalism. it's a shame that their corrupt communist papa functionaries, gave that wealth to them-instead of them having to work for it.

Surely you would Have to agree Costi?

History / Tuchola in Poland - roots of Katyn? [220]


Not a good idea Costi, if applied to the Russians themselves they would have to eliminate the whole nation! And finally the last person left standing-Stalin, would have take a gun and put it to his temple and pull the trigger.

Life / Poetry and Poets of Poland [58]

That is the one!! Thanks for that.

Life / Poetry and Poets of Poland [58]


Yes I do(:

Unfortunately this is not the poem I had in mind): The one i had in mind is actually very similar in substance to Longfellow's 'A Psalm of life. What the Heart of the Young Man Said to the Psalmist'.

Life / Poetry and Poets of Poland [58]


I like one of his songs in particular, there is another poem by Adam Asnik about youth, but I can't remember the title, does anybody else recall?

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


Trust me BB, I am now convinced that the next time you visit Swabia, and some Swabian happens to be rude to you, deep down there will be a little thought in your head saying 'damn Swabians'(:

News / "To understand Poland you must understand Frederic Chopin" (Stratfor Friedman) [74]

It is an interesting article, though it has to be said not the best informed....regarding facts. I read it more as the work of a fanciful imagination rather than reality. Good find BB.

I also think that the author is looking at Germany through an outdated lens, I would argue that Germany would be one of the last in Europe to pursue a strategy of grand expansion. I mean Germany is pumping money into Poland at the moment for goodness sake....

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]


Thanks for the update BB(: even if it is going to pour some extra fuel to the fire.

I was talking about the preceding centuries before 1920. And yes many Poles to admire the Germans- did you see how well Westrwelle and Sikorski get along.

Quite simply a brilliant summation. Poland should do all it can and not let sentimentality get in the way, and expose this poor man's fascist state of Lithuania for what it truly is.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]


Cut the crap, they willingly chose to be Polonised, and they were forcefully Russofied1

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]

I just think that they are testing the arguments that is all, and good on them for doing that, any argument worth its salt is capable of forensic scrutiny. However I really to believe that in reality they actually agree.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]

I am afraid that you do not, because as you clearly indicated in your previous posts you do not know what constitutes a Pole and what constitutes a Lithuanian.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]


you don't seem to understand the relationship between Poles and Lithuanians over the centuries, just because a Lithuanian speaks Polish does not disqualify him as a Lithuanian. You clearly not appreciate the cultural aspects of life at the time.

And another thing, Wilno was majority Polish speaking city at the time.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]


I doubt it, unless the Poles were arguing from the context of equivalence of the Polish language with Lithuanian, which I strongly doubt. In which case his comment more than speaks for itself.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]

Sandman

Indeed, but I am afraid that Lithuanians like Jogaila now call themselves Poles and Live in Poland or elsewhere. Unfortunately there no people like Jogaila resident in Lithuania anymore.


It's from the website I have posted above, as to the actual context of the sentence, I am not quite sure what it relates to. Although whether intentional or not, and I am guessing that the context is quite secondary to the actual quote, it is a really careless thing to say for a politician.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]

hague1cmaeron

I note that some of the stuff from the Lithuanian side in this article is downright stupid and in some cases bordering on racism. Particularly this extract

Caustic language from Lithuania's leading politicians has served to exacerbate the situation. TVP reports that Lithuania's Foreign Minister, Audronius Ažubalis, stated: “Someone that encourages a young person to study Polish is robbing him of the possibility to compete on the job market. He's shortchanging him because later on at most he may be a help on a building site.”

From the comment I take it that most Lithuanians are incapable of chewing gum and walking at the same time. Than again I do not see how the Polish language can disadvantage anyone, after all Lithuanian was abandoned in favor of Polish by their own nobility-and it did not disadvantage them in any way, on the contrary.

Mr Audronius Ažubalis should take this into account and consider Languages other than his peasant's dialect.

Sadly these are the consequences of people being throughly brainwashed by Soviet history, and at one time counting on soviet support to preserve the peasant's republic of Lithuania.

News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]

Yes, a perfectly valid point.

Here is some extra background to the story
wbj.pl/article-51784-poland-and-lithuania-war-over-words.ht ml?typ=ise
Apparently Sikorski says he will not visit Lithuania until the issue is resolved.