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pawian   
24 Feb 2019
History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]

The so called cursed soldiers were a taboo topic during communism - they were stigmatised as bandits, robbers, murderers. After the system collapsed in 1989, Polish historians were allowed to present a more objective picture of cursed soldiers as patriotic anticommunists and freedom fighters.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursed_soldiers

However, the topic still raises emotions and controvercy today because many people believe some cursed soldiers were indeed bandits, robbers and murderers.

Read an article about two types of attitude to cursed soldiers in Polish media.
uptranslators.wixsite.com/polishmedia/single-post/2016/04/11/Two-sides-of-the-Cursed-Soldiers

Every year when nationalists hold their memory march in Hajnówka to celebrate one of cursed soldiers, Bury, local residents and activists from all over Poland come to protest because they consider him a murderer of innocent civilians.

Read about Bury
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romuald_Rajs

and the pacification of villages
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946_pacification_of_villages_by_PAS_NZW

See pics of the march
gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/polish-nationalists-seen-marching-to-commemorate-the-cursed-news-photo/1126958564

The march is also condemned by Belarussian authourities who consider Bury a war criminal.
interfax.com/newsinf.asp?pg=3&id=888582

And is talked about in Ukrainian media
euromaidanpress.com/2016/07/30/poland-starts-honoring-war-criminals-of-1940s/

Another controvercial cursed soldier was Józef Kuraś, who fought against communists in Podhale region. However, he was also responsiible for the death of innocent people, including local Jews and Slovaks, Today he is praised as a hero.
pawian   
23 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

You're living in the past anyway

Yes, because I was born in the past and have always been interested in it and will be till my last hour. :):) I can`t help it and you must understand it, so please, don`t get so emotional when I write about Lithuanians or Jews or whatever which you don`t like.

As for the rest of your post, you are right to have your opinions, I will rather stick to mine. Thank you.
pawian   
23 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

and sets the example for minorities to assimilate into Lithuanian society.

Unfortunately, you are wrong. If you studied history more, which is probably too big a sacrifice, or at least if you had read this thread from the beginning, you would know that Lithuanians did their best, including usage of force, to keep their Polish minority when they had a chance to leave for Poland in 1950s. Acting so, Lithuanians took on themselves the full responsibility for the well being of Lithuanian Poles. Isn`t it simple?

Besides, why do you turn a blind eye to my words which I repeated a few times already? Lithuanian Poles can only dream about the rights which Polish Lithuanians enjoy in Poland.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_minority_in_Poland

E.g.,
There are Lithuanian-exclusive schools in Puńsk, both on primary and secondary level, schools with Lithuanian-language as a teaching language in Sejny, and schools with Lithuanian as a foreign language in the wider region are common.[13] There are 17 Lithuanian schools, attended by over 700 students

What next, Poland demands Polish language courses, signage and alphabet changes to accommodate Polish speakers in these countries too?

Wrong argument, because you are talking about immigrants while the subject matter is native inhabitants born in L.

I really don`t understand why you are still writing such childish things here.
pawian   
23 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

During his recent visit in Lithuania, Polish President made it clear that Poland still expects the rights of the Polish minority in Lithuania will be respected just like Lithuanian`s in Poland.
pawian   
22 Feb 2019
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

Would this mean to eagerly anticipate something, as in licking one's lips?

Yes, but primarily it refers to tasty food anticipation.

to not lift a finger?

Yes, exactly.

That strikes me as having virtually the same meaning then. If a person is not going to budge an inch,

Not quite. This inch idiom suggests obstinacy, stubborness. While finger idiom means the refusal to take action. e..g, I won`t bend a finger to defend you, you little rascal!

Another one: My mum often said (in imperative style but addressing nobody in particular): Be wise and write poems
pawian   
21 Feb 2019
History / Why could some Czechs dislike Poles/Poland? [46]

The armed resistance of those not all too keen on a Russian occupation was sizable, I can assure you.

I heard about a few incidents by restive individual soldiers but on the whole the Czech army stayed in the barracks to avoid a massacre.

The Czech people fought back plenty,

Plenty is a disputable expression. :)
pawian   
21 Feb 2019
History / Why could some Czechs dislike Poles/Poland? [46]

There are dozens Czech topics in the forum. Those related to this thread are

easygoing, do not take instantly to arms to fight for freedom

https://polishforums.com/archives/2010-2019/history/czech-character-world-war-two-61643/

their language which indeed sounds funny to the Polish ea

https://polishforums.com/archives/2010-2019/language/czech-sounds-like-baby-talk-52168/

https://polishforums.com/archives/2010-2019/life/poles-find-czech-funny-23843/
pawian   
19 Feb 2019
History / Why could some Czechs dislike Poles/Poland? [46]

No, it wasn`t their fault, it is the forum`s algorithm, it works automatic in one-off content mode, I suppose. Mods and admin are really OK. Thanks. :):)

But I certainly share your happiness. :)
pawian   
19 Feb 2019
History / Why could some Czechs dislike Poles/Poland? [46]

If you feel like, you can start such a thread, why not.

Nobody?

Ok.

Historical reason 1

similarly to Polish German case, Czechs had a land conflict with Poles. Of course I don`t mean the ancient times when the medieval Czech prince invaded Polish territory, occupied the capital and stole the remains of saint Adalbert. I mean the times 100 years ago when, after WW1, new states appeared on the map of Europe and Czechs claimed the same area as Poles, namely Tsesin Silesia or Zaolzie region. First, in 1919, Czechs took over Zaolzie after a quick invasion. Later, in 1938, Poland recaptured the region from weakened Czechs, already deprived of Sudeten region by Hitler. I suppose Czechs prefer to ignore 1919 and only remember the events of 1938, which indeed don`t evoke positive feelings.

Read about the conflict: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaolzie

Historical reason 2

the invasion of Czechoslovakia by Warsaw Pact countries in 1968 was another national trauma for Czechs. Unfortunately,. Poland took part in it, although it didn`t have to because some communist countries refused and nothing happened, e..g, Romania. But Polish communist leaders feared that communism-free Czechoslovakia might get close to Germany and Western Europe and that was against Polish strategic interests then. Most Czechs understood that Poles had no choice and were prone to forgive that act. Unfortunately, the behaviour of Polish soldiers only made the situation worse, because they didn`t treat Czechs too nicely - there was an infamous killing of Czech civilians in Jicin by a drunk Polish soldier. Although Polish democratic governments apologised a few times for the invasion, I suppose some Czechs might still bear a grudge.

Sociological-psychological reason 3A

although they are closely related Slavic nations, Czech and Polish national characters seem different. Poles are said to be rebellious, always ready to fight for independence or resist foreign occupation. Czechs on the contrary - easygoing, do not take instantly to arms to fight for freedom but prefer to wait and see what happens. Hans Frank, the governor general of occupied Poland, once said:

In Prague, big red posters were put up on which one could read that seven Czechs had been shot today. I said to myself, 'If I had to put up a poster for every seven Poles shot, the forests of Poland would not be sufficient to manufacture the paper.'

Read about Hans Frank: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Frank

I suppose some Czechs might not like this Polish impetuousness and moments when Poles look down on Czechs while discussing war merits. Yes, but let`s not forget that Prague survived the war and is an architectonic pearl while Warsaw was razed to the ground and rebuilt as a socialist city.

Sociological - psychological reason 3B

Also, Czechs are said to have a sense of humour, I mean the ability to laugh not only at others but also oneself. Poles are great at laughing at others but when laughed at, they immediately get tense and offended. Czechs seem to be more relaxed, and it can be seen in their culture, e..g, books or films (Czech comedies are very popular in Poland).

Linguistic reason 4

Czechs might not like when Poles deride their language which indeed sounds funny to the Polish ear. Some Czech words are the same as Polish ones but have a different meaning - cerstvy means fresh in Czech and stale in Polish.

What else?
pawian   
18 Feb 2019
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

So you take a peek at it through fingers instead of full-on looking at it directly, because you don't really want to see it at all.

Yes, taking a peek instead of full look is a good explanation, but the reason is different - in this case you just don`t care and close an eye to sth wrong/stupid/slightly illegal etc.

Maybe a missed chance or opportunity? Or money, if a person is bad with finances?

Yes, correct. Used in the context of money, time, life and other things which humans deem important. ):

Put up a good face for a bad game

Pretend you are happy and don`t mind when they are hurting you. An informal version is: to talk about rain when they are spitting on you.
pawian   
17 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

Sorry, I don`t know what you mean but if you mention the government, then I must tell you I was talking about Lithuanian President who is said to have blocked the changes.
pawian   
17 Feb 2019
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

I can only think that it means that someone is either tight-fisted, stingy,

Yes, perfect. Krakowians are stereotypically considered scrooges.

Now, two about fingers.

To look at sth through fingers.
Sth is trickling through fingers.

pawian   
17 Feb 2019
Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]

JR, thanks for reminding me again why I left everything behind and didn't return until half a century later.

Guys, you obviously lack one important trait - a sense of humour. Don`t be so dead serious about other bad Poles, can`t you take a little joke? :)
pawian   
16 Feb 2019
Food / Polish Christmas Eve Dinner recipes [84]

Suya is an awesome and popular dish among Poles of colour

Oh, I see. I didn`t know because I don`t meet them too often. Perhaps that`s because I rarely leave my village.

Tell 'em Shitonya sent ya!

I will surely will. :)
pawian   
16 Feb 2019
Food / Polish Christmas Eve Dinner recipes [84]

I was in Warsaw between December and January. The long lines for top food being eaten by locals was

Hmm, I visited Warsaw, Poland, a dozen times within the last 10 years and never heard of/seen such a dish. Also in other Polish cities. Are you sure you are talking about Warsaw, Poland? Because there are a few other Warsaws in the world......
pawian   
16 Feb 2019
News / Poland and USA vs Iran and the EU [38]

you're an idiot Either way you're a dunce..

No, please, don`t use such uncultural expressions, it is really bad manners. :)

Stop playing

You have to tolerate my presence here as I tolerate yours. Remember, there is always balance in nature. :)
pawian   
16 Feb 2019
News / Poland and USA vs Iran and the EU [38]

It is sad to see a small recovering from war country like Poland be manipulated by a super power.

It is quite simple. PiS government is at odds with the EU which doesn`t close an eye to PiS`s breaches of constitution and democratic principles. The only important alliance they are able to score is that with the USA. That is why PiS are ready to brown-nose Uncle Sam not only for modern weapons which are indeed necessary in view of the Kremlin threat, but even for a faint mirage of support. Then they can use it in propaganda for their simpleton voters: look, we have partnership with powerful USA.
pawian   
16 Feb 2019
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

It's not easier :-(

Ok, I will relieve you. Krakow deal means to reach a compromise during negotiations - can be connected with trade or anything else what you try to settle with somebody..

To shoot a bull is to make a mistake but more slangish: eg., blow it, slip up (informal), cock up (British, slang), foul up, drop a clanger (informal), put your foot in it (informal), drop a brick (British, informal), screw up (informal). :)

Another one with Krakow: When sb is called Krakow cent (diminutive centling in the original) ), what does it mean?
pawian   
16 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

SB, thanks for a laugh, I will save on doctors. :)

Generally, what you said is a pack of nonsense (which I might discuss later to have more fun) except one sentence:

you try to walk back now from what you wrote years ago

Yes, guys, I revived the thread with my words written 8 years ago to show the contrast between my past and present attitude. Then I was angry at how Lithuanians mistreat their Poles. Today I am more mature and realise they must cope with their own complexes and it takes time. Ok, I am patient and it seems current Polish leaders are too.

That`s good because a much more ominous danger is looming in the East. The Kremlin has decided to restore the empire they lost in late 1980s. In result, all neighboring independent countries which once belonged to it are under threat: Lithuania, Ukraine, Poland, the rest of Baltics. It is natural we must keep together to show our unity and solidarity - Poles must stand by Lithuanians and Ukrainians so that they don`t lose hope. Only united will we be able to resist the imperial ambitions of the Kremlin.
pawian   
16 Feb 2019
News / Poland and USA vs Iran and the EU [38]

Who cares? To get its own nukes would be the best policy for Poland.

You know it is daydreaming. Get serious. You haven`t changed much over the years... :)
pawian   
15 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

End of.

No, not yet. :)

They are not African. They all have Polish passports. They live in the EU

I didn`t say they are still African.:)
On top of that, John Godson doesn`t live in the EU. :) He came back to Africa. :)

Now it is the end.
pawian   
15 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

Secondly,I never heard of any of them.....

John Godson, of African origin, was a member of Polish Parliament. Olisadebe, also African, was a player in a Polish football club.
pawian   
15 Feb 2019
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [534]

Spoken like a true nationalist.

:):) Thanks. But you are wrong.

Both quotes come from 2010, the first reflects an opinion of a frustrated Polish patriot, angered by Lithuanian unfair approach, the other is a statement of a fact by a neutral commentator. :) Don`t let emotions carry you away, please.