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Joined: 30 May 2008 / Male ♂ 		Last Post: 19 Mar 2025
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pawian   
16 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

.I somewhat doubt that my East German overlords would send humanitarian aid to support the Solidarity uprising in the "socialist brother country" Poland..

Of course not, rebellious Poland was number one suspicious element. But the parcels could have been prepared for communist Angola, constantly torn by civil war. I remember my younger sister had an exchange with an East German school at the time and she hosted a black African female student.
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

it was an organized action after school and all classes did it...but I don't remember where they were send to....

Wasn`t POLEN written on the parcels?
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

"Since the 14th century, Poland excelled in the production of sausages,

Good you are defending Polish sausage against evil machinations. Now try to contribute sth according to the topic, but not tomatoes or other veg.
E.g., - have you ever heard of The Culinary Art Guide by Iskry ? In the bigos entry, they suggest it is a German name. Now, is it only the name or also the recipe which Poles received from Germans?
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

No, it was just stupid, even if you meant it as a joke. Yawn. But, your silly potatoes triggered some memories about German contribution. See how old masters do it and learn, young man:

Before and during dark times of communist martial law 1981 the food shortages became dramatic in Poland. My parents were happy when they bought a giant sack of potatoes and stored it in the basement, I helped them to transport it from the befriended farmer. I had other problems on mind then, so that sack and my parents` glee were like from outer space to me. I still can`t believe one could be able to enjoy such simple things in life.

Alarmed by the media and Solidarity activists, thousands of individual Germans, charity organisations and churches from West Germany sent millions of parcels with food, clothes, medicine to Poland. They were called solidarity parcels.

Thank you, Germans.

read about it here, only Polish sites:
dzieje.pl/historia-w-kinie/paczki-solidarnosci
dw.com/pl/darmowe-paczki-do-polski/a-15584010
gosc.pl/doc/1044242.Dziekujemy-wam-Niemcy


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pawian   
16 Mar 2019
History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]

You are just another propagandist who exploits Lenin`s motto: repeat the lie thousand of times and it will become the truth .

I go with historical research which is more reliable to some degree in establishing the truth.

Historical research is a notion unknown to you, so stop pretending. :)
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
Life / Polish women fight for their rights - manifa and other events [306]

I am not going to talk about Soros and EU in Polish Women rights thread.

You still haven`t enriched us with documented info about drunk consent "rapes."

So why don't you logically answer to this argument :-)

Stop meddling in with your plastic toy Trabant car when Monstertrucks are debating.
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]

quote from your link - According to IPN historical research (2019) "Bury" wasn't guilty of genocide.

Yes, and that`s what I commented with

YI didn`t take it seriously for obvious reasons. Also, you should be ashamed of pointing to them at all.

So, my advice from my previous post is still valid. :)

Why are you making it so easy, Ironside?

Yes, that`s amazing. My second quote also holds true: Those nationalists are really hopeless, hoping that other guys will not check things for themselves.
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
Life / Polish women fight for their rights - manifa and other events [306]

Virtue signaling and keeping ultra liberal agenda alive is more important than what citizens want.

No, they realised they had been tricked into pro brexit vote by vile politicians on Kremlin`s payroll as well as paid trolls from the Factory. Sth which you seem to be affiliated with, too, because your agenda is just too thick. :):)

No you can Google it yourself.

Hah! I knew you were bluffing with those drunk rapes. :):) I think it was Lenin`s advice for his propagandists - reapeat the lie thousands of times until it becomes truth. You had good educators there. :):)

But you do realise this discovery makes everything you said here one giant hoax. :)
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

Does it mean to show someone no mercy?

Nope, it is much simpler as it means to hit sb with your head.

Not all flour turns into bread

Be prepared to experience failure in life.

Who does "business" for free?

I see.

And to this very day I don't know what dunder is!]

Very easy,. It is thunder. :) The same as niech Cię/mnie piorun strzeli/trzaśnie.
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
Life / Polish women fight for their rights - manifa and other events [306]

daughter got into a bike accident and he wiped the blood off her legs

Hey, why are you suddenly twisting things around? We were talking about a drunk rape while you bring up sex with a minor. Why are you doing it? We are not talking about minor sex in this thread, but harassment of adult women which you support. I expected you would provide linked examples how a male had sex with a consenting drunk woman and then she accused him of rape and he was convicted and sentenced.

Can you find those links for us because I don`t have time to do your duties?
pawian   
15 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Are you trying to hurt my feelings? :-)

No ,I am desperately trying to make you come to reason and use it if you have any. Why did you ignore the reviving post in which I precisely formulated again what the thread`s purpose is????

polishforums.com/history/poles-owe-germans-53954/7/#msg1680446

Im here to exchange private messages with a friemd who shares my opinion.

There are also emails and Skype, if you don`t know.
pawian   
15 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

That`s a reasonable approach. As for moving on, it is impossible for some guys, they just can`t stop looking back. E.g, that crazy history-obsessed guy who started this thread.
pawian   
15 Mar 2019
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

I will have to ponder again, but was my answer in post 153 about the cat's tail correct or not?

Oops, sorry, I was going to reply to it but sb had me distracted. Yes, it means twisting things to make people believe your version. Similar to "try to wriggle out of sth," if I am correct.

The Polish idiom implies Jews are rootless without a homeland, the German expression implies that Jews are noisy.

No, Łyżko, the Polish version is actually more favourable for Jews, it means they are always busy looking after their business, whether customers come or not.

have 'Czech mistake' and 'Czech movie' (two very different things) been done?

No. Czech movie is hard to understand while a Czech mistake is a silly one made during writing..
pawian   
15 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

There's so many things we owe them.

Yawn, An attempt at a witty reply but still based on an unoriginal concept, because there were already a few like that before. I thought you were more intelligent - do all nationalists reason in the same simplistic way? :)):
pawian   
15 Mar 2019
Life / Why does Poland need racial diversity? Opinions [67]

I hope I'm stating the obvious by saying that Poland doesn't NEED diversity.

Hmm, shouldn`t you emphasizedoesn`t instead of need ?

It is difficult to gauge what kind of diversity pawian wants.

I thought it was clear. Racial diversity which means that apart from white guys, who make a vast and dull majority now, there are also people of other races, in greater number than current statistics show, so they are visible in streets, schools, workplaces, and they all live happily ever after because they are tolerant towards each other, not due to enforced antidiscriminatory laws but out of personal free choice.
pawian   
15 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Oh, that`s interesting because it is rarely mentioned. What always counted more was the abolition of serfdom in tsarist Russia 50 years later as it affected a bigger part of Polish lands, then controlled by Russians.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_serfdom_in_Poland
pawian   
15 Mar 2019
History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]

Really? Can you read Polish? Check it again you lazy bones. At the very end from IPN 2019, that very much nullifies text above.

You mean the latest declaration of PiS-controlled IPN, those modern Kremlin stooges? I didn`t take it seriously for obvious reasons. Also, you should be ashamed of pointing to them at all. If you do, you follow Kremlin`s agenda of stirring animosity between Poles and their neighbours.
pawian   
14 Mar 2019
Life / Why does Poland need racial diversity? Opinions [67]

Dear guys, thank you for your abundant contribution. I haven`t had time to reply to your comments and opinions yet because I have been incredibly busy in other threads. I will certainly do it, soon.

So far I have suggested 4 reasons for the need of racial diversity and run out of ideas. Are there more or 4 is the final fantasy? Drop me a line and I will develop your clues when I find more time.
pawian   
14 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

OMG, I have reread the whole thread and feel like crying - those golden times when we used to run such fascinating discussions with so many motivated members taking part seem long gone. And we could freely insert pics and quote excessively. To se ne vrati.... (:(:(

Or am I wrong?

I suppose it might be worthwile reviving the thread as I have come across new info.

Just a little reminder - this thread`s Leitmotiv is What, not If. What do Poles owe to Germans? and not Do Poles owe anything to Germans? Let`s talk about positive contributions, so could you abstain from mentioning partitions, WW2, etc because these topics belong to other threads. And owe doesn`t mean being indebted, but feel grateful to someone because of the way that they have helped you. Whether that help was deliberate or accidental, doesn`t matter.

Also could you try to avoid pointing to things which Germans contributed to the whole world, e.g., composers, but rather focus on Polish German connection?

So far we have talked about the following things, among others:

Works of art/ Magdeburg layout for towns / A few medieval artifact gifts/ German settlements in Poland / First book printing / Vocabulary borrowings / Polonised Germans

If you can`t find them in the thread, I will provide links upon request.
pawian   
14 Mar 2019
History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [320]

I read my links and they perfectly corroborate what I have said - historians haven`t found rational proofs that villages burnt by Bury were inhabited mostly by Soviet stooges, spies, supporters. There were a few but not all who died.

Do you understand written Polish at all?
pawian   
14 Mar 2019
Life / Why does Poland need racial diversity? Opinions [67]

Reason No 4 - Diversity makes people smarter

No need to eleborate, just read this article:

scientificamerican.com/article/how-diversity-makes-us-smarter/

Being around people who are different from us makes us more creative, more diligent and harder-working

Yes, I can see it in my school which is attended by 2 Ukrainian students. I don`t teach them but was told by our Polish teachers that they like classes with Ukrainian students because they always ask a lot of questions and seem really interested, which positively affects the rest of the group. Most Polish students believe they know everything about their culture, literature and language so they don`t care. When juxtaposed to inquisitive foreigners, they realise how wrong they were.

Now, can you imagine a situation when a black/Asian student stands up and recites classic pieces of Polish literature? Polish students would never forget the experience, I think it might give them a proper boost to study harder.
pawian   
14 Mar 2019
Life / Mishmash facts about Poland and Poles [187]

In another thread one member was surprised that Polish males are given flowers as gifts . He suggested they must be gay. Well, not necessarily.

Teacher of the Year Award celebration


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pawian   
14 Mar 2019
Life / Why does Poland need racial diversity? Opinions [67]

Reason No 3 - Diversity teaches tolerance

And that`s very good for you as, being tolerant, you will lead a happier life. Tolerant people don`t experience so much stress in their lives as biased ones. A prejudiced person is regularly frustrated, not only with people of different race, but other things too, while tolerant one is mentally healthy. It is obvious who will love longer.

When leaving Poland, intolerant guys can be doubly frustrated because racial diversity exists in most attractive countries which they desire to visit in Europe, whether job hunting, for educational purposes or just tourism.

Most Poles are tolerant about other races, but a few are not and it is probably the result of the lack of racial diversity in Poland . It was pointed out by British teachers a few years ago when they saw how some Polish students treated their black, Arab or Asian peers with disdain and contempt. The teachers` comments were not favourable for Polish students who were dubbed extreme racists.

Check this article about Polish pupils in the UK
core.ac.uk/download/pdf/17301071.pdf

Several teachers referred to Polish children's lack of familiarity with dealing with diversity. A headteacher suggested that: Some of the Polish children, haven't had the benefit of a multicultural education that the children who have been here since they started school have had . So we find sometimes racist comments being made. So we have to deal with that...
pawian   
14 Mar 2019
Life / Why does Poland need racial diversity? Opinions [67]

Reason 2 - Lack of choice is unhealthy

Currently, white people can meet/date/get married to other whites only in Poland. That`s wrong. Racial diversity would allow a bigger choice. During my past travels abroad I saw how many Polish males and females tend to make close friends with races other than Caucasian. And not because they couldn`t find a white partner - they just weren`t interested.

A few weeks ago an ex student of mine showed up at school to recall old good times. He came with his Indian girlfriend. Tall, with dark hair and eyes, he was attractive enough to have any white girl and I remember he dated a few when at school. But he eventually prefered another race - but why did he have to go to Germany to find her?

Also, a few years ago a group of German students came for exchange and there was one black girl with them. She unexpectedly became the star of the evening when a disco was organised because Polish boys literally queued to the girl to have a dance with her. She was a bit surprised but very happy.

Why shouldn`t Poles have this choice in their own country, instead of being forced to go abroad to look for black or Asian partners?
pawian   
13 Mar 2019
Life / Why does Poland need racial diversity? Opinions [67]

I don`t have time to elaborate as usual, providing a dozen reasons supporting the subject question. Therefore, for the time being, only one reason.

Reason 1 - Fully personal and egoistic.

I am bored to death by having to deal with white race only. Every day I see, meet, work with, talk to, argue with, love, teach Caucasian people. I have had enough. White colour can be so dull, I would never paint a room all white because it would look depressive, like a hospital or even worse.

Why can`t Poland be like the USA or Great Britain where melting pots work 24/7 and create advanced societies which are admired and envied by other nations?

I am not afraid of losing our cultural integrity by its dissolution with immigrant culture because Polish culture is attractive enough to encourage immigrants from all over the world to adopt it. I could see it on the example of those few Asian/black families, who decided to settle in Poland (also in communist times), that I have met in my life. Parents have worked hard to achieve a high standard of living, they didn`t beg for benefits, while kids are already pure Poles, only their skin or eyes are a bit different. So what?