History / Introduction to Polish history! From a Polish perspective [94]


*mourns*


Question....how did the Piasts became the first rulers? Were they an influential family before already? Elections? That would be an interesting extra chapter....

History / Introduction to Polish history! From a Polish perspective [94]


Dammit!

*slinks away*

History / Introduction to Polish history! From a Polish perspective [94]


I guess it's because English isn't his native language either so he uses words and sentencens and expressions which make it easy for another non-native like me to read and understand...I liked it! :)

History / Introduction to Polish history! From a Polish perspective [94]


A good read! :)


Could it have something to do with the reason why the germanic people back then were called "niemcy" meaning mute? That would make much more sense than "slave"!

I still love the visuals of the Teutonic Order (not their politics!), even as I must say that Christianity was brought quite forcefully to the pagan Germanics back then too. Who could forget the massacres (beheadings) and enforced mass relocations of the Saxons!

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [144]


....that sounds so not like a re-unification of a brother-people, as you stated before!

We know how that looks like.....the fall of the Berlin Wall 1989.....or even Hitler riding into Vienna for the Anschluß.....just compare the pictures then with Ukraine now and you see the differences!


Well Crowie....without that invasion in Ukraine NATO would be still lying low....fighting for every Penny...asking itself what that all is about....and not even think about any enlargement in the Baltics, no encirclement of Russia at all....

Get the order of events right!

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My personal analysis: Nobody in the West gave a flying f*uck about Chechnya (as unfair as it is), the situation couldn't be more different in Ukraine.

If Putin thought he could handle Ukraine as he did Chechnya, well...that was a horrific miscalculation.

Just look at NATO.....never been bigger....never been more unified.....never having more money and modern weapons....never been more popular in the populations.....and soon Russia is really encircled, with NATO at all fronts.

The from the Kremlin sold reason for this war that NATO came "to near" has developed into a joke!

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Would you be okay with getting Crimea/Donbas (the russian pockets) in peace negotiations? And leaving the rest of Ukraine (the majority) alone for good?

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BOTH populations have to see it the same way!

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.....sometimes I just fear many of them don't think that far....never try to put themselves into their enemy's shoes.

The Russians have always prided themselves for not giving up to the german forces in WWII, for not giving in....keep on fighting with all means available! The civilian resistance has become legendary.

But now they believe other people, Ukrainians, will just give up....lay down belly up and become brave subjects to a hostile, foreign, brutal invader....WHY????

No thought about the "after", the much more difficult time when guns and tanks are not working anymore....they might win the war but definitely lose the peace....and that has never ended well for any occupier!

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [144]

.....you seem to believe that Ukraine can forcefully pacified....well, time will tell!

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [144]

....what happens when Ukrainians keep rebelling against that? Don't stop fighting for an independent country....one way or another....

You know how that goes....unending bad pictures for Russia in the global news.....a never ending resource draining, hurting zit on russian ass.....what then?

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That alone wouldn't be to bad....

Cool map! So much blue :)

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How would you call it?


And once Ukraine joins EU even such history as with Lwow can be shared....I know....but that wasn't my scenario! ;)

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I wonder what Erdogan got for that.....

But yes, if that invasion had the goal to weaken NATO that was an own goal of epic proportions!

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No, sadly he won't! He is now totally unhappy and even angry there...


Ja genau! 🥺

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....but I wish Lewy would stay....Bayern won't be the same without him! 😥

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Heh:) 😆

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....but my question wasn't so much about the possibility of that scenario....hence my plea "to imagine"!

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

It actually only needs ONE MAN.....as was the case with Hitler.....with Stalin.....with Mao....with Putin....and nobody could believe Germany becoming the Third Reich even 10 years before....not democratic, developed, intelligent, civilized Germany....it was unimaginable! And Russia after Gorbatschow? We loved it! Putin was a nobody back then...a pale weak bureaucrat from the third line....

*knocks on wood* ;)

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Agreed! But not impossible....

I have learned from posters like Iron that there still exist polish grievances and resentments as in cases like Lwow....it would need a leader building on that, stoking it for a long time though....someone like Putin. Not an opressive foreigner but a national "patriot" helping Poland to get it's place at the "sun" back....you know the drill!

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What I would like to know......earlier times as in "Schlesien"???? :)

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Of course it is.....one must be very sure to act differently in the same situation to show such a righteous rage!

Not only be sure of one self but knowing that the whole people will do what is right in such a situation.

Maybe that's why people with a different history, who as a people have failed in such a situation, like Germans, lack this righteous rage and show more "understanding"....it's also psychological.

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I tried to find this too once.....as Jon and I butted heads so badly.....now it has all calmed down and I don't need it anymore....

Give it time Torqi! :)

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]


Well....if "your team" is winning it's tough for any opposition....even if you have your own doubts....they are silenced by all the cheer around you....who doesn't like the "home team" winning, no matter if in the right or in the wrong.....

That too is basic human psychology! *shrugs*

Imagine for a moment Poland acting like Russia....invading western Ukraine for some historical reasons/grievances whatever....probably using the "Banderists" too as a kind of justification....getting some old territory/town back....

How many Poles would agree....would even cheer every success of the polish army....would you also so openly here disagree and fight the polish leadership?

Do you think the Poles as a people would try to overturn the polish government from the streets to end this invasion? Or wouldn't here too a majority agree or at least stay silent? What do you think?

Off-Topic / Funniest stuff said on PF! Please post the funniest convos, remakes, responses, name calling or whatever. [93]

...und Brot und Käse! :)

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....no chance for another pagan for the forum then....oh well!

*takes helmet and goes for Abendbrot*

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....I actually bet on it! :)

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That is very understanding of human nature....most people still like to blame "the Germans" for not doing more, for not stopping it back then....Germans themselves too btw.

On the other hand that doesn't bode well for the future....a new Hitler or Stalin or Pol Pot or Idi Amin etc. is then only a matter of time, as that new perpetrator can always count on that human nature to do nothing!

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I admire Crowies resilience, his conviction, his stubbornness....I can't help it! :)

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

But.....then there is this old question.....who gave the perpetrators their power if not the innocents?

Could they have done their evil without the silence of these innocents?