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Say what?

In December 1945 the USSR was consolidating control over Eastern/Central European territories, laying the groundwork for the so-called "Eastern Bloc". They were also occupying northern Korea, establishing communist administration there (nurturing the rise of Kim Il-sung). What else? The Azerbaijan People's Government (a Soviet-backed puppet state) declared autonomy in northern Iran, and the first meetings of the UN General Assembly and Security Council were being prepared (officially began in January 1946), where the USSR was one of the five permanent members of the Security Council and already maneuvering diplomatically for influence.

I don't get it... "fewer than in December '45"?


Hey, but he took your, American, mineral deposits. Surely you won't tolerate such shameless theft of American assets?

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I admire your commitment to taking things literally, Lyzko. The world needs autistic literalists too. *high five*


Good idea.

Did you hear that, German police? 'Home', not 'to Poland'.


Hmm... but these are no longer Ukrainian but American deposits, so it is Americans who now have to worry about getting them back. 5D chess by the Ukrainians :)

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Erm... bribed? Germans? Is this even a viable collocation in any language?

'Bribe Germans' sounds a bit like 'scare Poles' or 'befriend French'. Impossible.

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You are preaching to the converted, Atch. I would really love to see Poles adopting Irish driving style but I wouldn't hold my breath. Hot Slavic blood, ridiculously high testoterone levels, Sarmatian ambition... what to do? Ehh...

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As someone who spent 3 years in Ireland and drove there for about 2.5 years, I can speak only in superlatives about Irish drivers.

They are cuddly, fluffy teddy bears behind the wheel compared to the overwhelming majority of Poles.

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*sighs*

O thou, bearer of a tragically un-Slavic soul!

You ask and your question shall be answered. Not now though. There is a busy day ahead of me.


I didn't touch a drop of alcohol yesterday, and what we write here is far from nonsensical. But deep inside you know it, cms. You're just struggling hopelessly with your inner Slav (a battle that you must eventually lose). How much longer will you spit in the faces of Christ and Svetovid? How much longer?

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The ancient Sarmatian idea of 'bij swój swego, żeby obcy się bał' (one of my father's favourite sayings) is, of course, of Polish origin but it is indeed our Russian brothers who creatively developed it and took it to the extreme. This nobody can deny.


Spot on, Grunni.

If Russia perishes, who will be there to save us if some Hitler or other sultan goes on a rampage in the Slavic lands again? That's why we have to make sure that Russia doesn't perish but is transformed from the abomination that it has become under Putin into a strong, huge Slavic Switzerland (or at least South Korea) with nukes. Pawian's
idée fixe of fragmenting Russia into tens of what he called "Russistans" had this one flaw. Fatal flaw.


Sometimes, on a rather rare occasion, you manage to say or at least quote something that actually makes sense. Well done.


I really wouldn't paint Putin as a planetary saviour, paragon of ecology and the ultimate embodiment of material restraint. :)

If you're into ecology, electric cars, emission limits, renewable energy resources and a general anti-capitalist sentiment, you should direct all your warm feelings towards the EU. Looking forward to your posts praising the Europeans for all the values that are so dear to you. :)

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I know. That's why you need us.

It would all be so much better if things had turned out differently in 1612.

Yes, of course, everything that happens, happens according to the sovereign will of God... I accept that; but some of His decrees are difficult for me to comprehend and accept. I suppose one day we will understand more, and I sure hope we both end up on the same side of the afterlife to discuss it then.


Here's where we differ.

Gotta catch some z's. Good night, Bobi.

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Looking forward to it. Always a pleasure to read your prose.

As for the tyrants and their dogs, let me quote a fragment of my favourite Irish poem...

I speak to my people, and I speak in my people's name to
The masters of my people:
I say to my people that they are holy,
That they are august despite their chains.
That they are greater than those that hold them
And stronger and purer,
That they have but need of courage, and to call on the name of their God,
God the unforgetting, the dear God who loves the people
For whom he died naked, suffering shame.
And I say to my people's masters: Beware
Beware of the thing that is coming, beware of the risen people
Who shall take what ye would not give.
Did ye think to conquer the people, or that law is stronger than life,
And than men's desire to be free?
We will try it out with you, ye that have harried and held,
Ye that have bullied and bribed.
Tyrants... hypocrites... liars!

en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rebel_(Pearse)

... the Irish, of course, are a lost tribe of Poles, who wandered too far away from the camp; but that's another story.

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Every mafia does, eventually.


You talk about them with way too much reverence, kiddo.

If you cut them, do they bleed? If you shoot them, do they die?

So there.

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So what?

At the end of the day, it is us - small shopkeepers - who die surrounded by our loved ones, and whose souls fly up to Christ to enjoy eternal bliss, while the demons swallow poison in their bunkers or lie for hours on the floor of their offices, in a pool of their own p*ss, deliberately neglected by those around them.


Who wants to talk to them? Not me. When the time of a tyrant comes to relocate to hell and have his anus stretched for whole eternity, his time comes. Talk to them?

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You said it as if it was something bad but - hear me out - even we, petits bourgeois, have souls.


A de...


... oh, you beat me to it.

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@Bobko

You are a veritable treasure chest of knowledge about Russia, and your wisdom confirms and deepens what I already knew.


Amen to that. Sometimes, when I have a bad day, I wish someone would conduct similar purges in Polish politics. The problem is: what will stop the guy with such power from becoming an even worse thief and crook himself?

Violence is not the answer. Well, not that kind of violence anyway. South Korea was a corrupt poor sh*thole for many years; our engineers had been going there for decades to help them with their industry, road/railroad building, factories etc.; these days it is South Koreans who are selling us their cars, tanks and rocket launchers. How did they do that? They strengthened laws against corruption and conducted major legal and judicial reforms, increased overall transparency and greatly reduced opportunities for corruption. Simple as that, and look at them now.

If people are not internally oriented towards honesty and integrity (as neither Poles nor Russians are) they need laws, sometimes draconian ones, to push them towards the right direction. South Koreans did this, and to a lesser extent Poland did this thanks to the EU. People think that it is the EU funds that helped Poland the most. It is not the case. It was the forced conformity of Polish legal and economic systems to the EU standards that caused most of the transformation miracle. We became more honest, thrifty and hard-working becase we were forced to it by the new circumstances and because we saw that it pays off.


Of course we shouldn't. We plot, we scheme, we concoct and we lie. But we also love you (believe it or not), and we won't let them hurt you. We are to Russians, in case of the inevitable Western victory, what Serbs would be to us in case of the unlikely Russian victory - a friend and an advocate. We, Poles, have memory of an elephant - we remember all and we remember that, all things considered, we are brothers.

You mistrust us, and you have every reason to. But we love you. Fear not.

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I've always known you are a decent guy, BB. *high five*

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Because I know Russians. They are kind-hearted, generous and noble people. That's why I am such a huge Russophile and can't stand to see them suffer under the government of thieves and crooks turning them into a pariah state reliant on North Korean ammunition supplies (what a disgrace!).

That's one thing. Another thing is, we owe them something. Soviet Union under Stalin was not noble Gondor but they did rid us of the genocidal nazi maniacs who wanted to slaughter and enslave us in more or less equal proportion (see Generalplan Ost for more detail). Now, it's our time to return the favour and rid good Russian people of the putinist mafia.

With my own eyes I saw Poland transforming from a post-communist, gray, sad sh*thole into the country that it is today, and I want the same thing for Russia. For the sake of ancient blood ties, for the sake of Slavia, for the sake of Christ and Svetovid. So help me God.

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*fingers crossed*

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Brilliant.

How much are you willing to bet?

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Definitely.

Also, in Poland the chance of your child dying in a school shooting is significantly lower, as well as the chance of them becoming a drug addict or contracting HIV (not to mention drowning under a mountain of medical bills or graduating from university with a ton of debt). All in all, I would say that at the moment Poland is one of the best places in the world to live, and in 15-20 years time it is very likely that it will be the best place in terms of quality of life. Give intelligent people freedom, and that's what they do with it - they build a paradise.

The deciding factors in case of Poles are: diligence, thrift, self-discipline and overal cleanliness and order. We are the Germans/Swiss of the 21st century. :)

*WarSore bursting into this thread like a bulldog into a henhouse in 3 ... 2 ... 1*

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Well, the intelligent strategists in Poland have been talking about it for quite a while now. In our scenario America has one job, just one f*cking job, nothing more.

The American job is to control the escalation. Namely, if Russia fires a nuke, the US fires a nuke; if Russia fires three, the US fires three, if Russia fires a hundred, the USA fires a hundred. That's it. Their precious soldiers can stay at home. We don't need their infantry - we have our own, much better than theirs.

So, while the USA controls the escalation, a liberating force, let's call it the Freedom Army for the purpose of this scenario, consisting of Maavoimat, Wojsko Polskie, Bundeswehr and the Romanian Army (reinforced with expeditionary forces of other European NATO countries), rolls into Russia, Belarus and Ukraine to finally liberate Russians and other suffering peoples from the yoke of kleptocratic, gold toilet sh*tting, quasi-fascist putinist/lukashenist regimes.

I roughly calculate the time needed for the Freedom Army to liberate Russia to be from 6 to 8 weeks. If America can control the escalation that long, this war will be over in two months. But this requires resolve, brave decisions, and at least a moderate amount of tostesterone from all involved.

So, @PolAm, are you with us or against us?

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Maybe you missed my post #63 or are you calling your generals "far left sources"? By the way, don't forget to write General Grynkewich and call him, I quote you, a "fvcking moron" because he thinks Ukraine can win this war.

Your pro-Putinist shilling, disguised as a desire for peace, is vomit-inducing.

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Hear, hear.

Decapitating impudent envoys was an elegant custom too.

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Hey, @moderator: "To Hulegu Khan, the Onanist of the East and West" was a vital part of Kutuzowski's reply. Put away those moderating scissors. :-/

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Yesss!

I shall refer to him as Qutuzowski from now on.

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What a lovely letter. If Qutuz the Mamluk had been Polish he would have composed the following reply...


I hope that was his answer.

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Not according to one of your top generals, the director for operations of the Joint Staff...

wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/dostal-nominacje-od-donalda-trumpa-ukraina-moze-wygrac/1l6gtx9

... if you meet him make sure you call him a fvcking moron to his face.

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@Bobko

OK, that does it. You're Polish pretending to be Russian.

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Happens to me all the time.

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Nie martw się - zostało Ci jeszcze 99,99% innych wątków na PF. ;)

Poza tym nie jestem pewny czy ten pomysł wypali.


He he :)

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So, we're playing at home. Perfect.