Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]


There are some, especially at the top end of the market. Further down, there are some horror shows.


I agree, however in exam classes where you're essentially teaching to the test, good ones are invaluable. The exam-focussed ones are a world apart from some of the dreck from publishers with big marketing budgets.


With that one (some B2s do ask) I say it's about the historical connection between will (będzie) and will (woła). And also say very often pretty well exactly what you say. Also that there are emphatic forms, hedging and the ultra polite which leads to forms being used by natives that even a highly proficient non-native would avoid but shouldn't stress over if they hear it.

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]


The teacher should of course. That and have an eye on exam expectations and partial outcomes. Non-native teachers have a real struggle with that concept.

You're correct that traditional ones are model sentences (and newer ones should be) however some of the newer ones are more thematic (the topics covered in satiate exams) at the cost of accuracy and ease of use.

For children's materials, even the CEFR lexis gets stripped down a bit. Generally for good reason.


Welcome to my world, Maf (and of course probably yours too; I think you work with language).

Learners and non-native teachers often get flummoxed by word or grammar frequency. They get appalled when they reach the level that 'be used to' and 'get used to' come in. Plus there's the prescriptive/descriptive approach to grammar.

If you want to see looks of horror, just tell them that the Cobuild people in Warwick analysed an evening of U.K. terrestrial TV and identified 84 conditional forms...

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I wonder if he'll admit to and make penance for his many sins.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

Especially a teacher of English who is clearly somewhat befuddled about how the word meal can be used in the language they're teaching.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]


Notorious.


I suppose they would be if they have a teacher who doesn't know their arse from their elbow.

Remember, coursebooks are a tool, not a bible.


Some certainly do. I had pancakes and black coffee today.

Perhaps the teachers book should take into account that the course book might be used by less proficient teachers.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

Oh dear, Paw, keep digging. Soon you'll be having a smoko with bogans, bludgers, possums and Emma Chisit under a billabong tree.

If only you'd asked a professional in didactic materials for language learning (clue: there's one replying to your previous post right now).why a particular lexeme has been selected for use in a given course book rather than making a sort of riddle with no answer and an odd question.

Look a couple of posts back, then google high and low frequency vocab and reflect on how that is applied in creating materials for different ages and levels.

That or find a young child whose first language is English that talks about dishes (as in meals rather than pots and pans).

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]


There is no 'illogicality' at all. The word was carefully chosen for reasons above that you probably failed to grasp or pretend to have failed to grasp.

And what in your booze-addled mind makes you think that a textbook for kiddywinks in Poland reflects attitudes to food?

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]


It's not a problem at all, and I wondered long ago if that was what confused you.

You said it's for 6th graders, whatever that is. Can you think of a reason that a book for their level would use meals rather than dishes?

Are you familiar with the lexical corpus at different CEFR levels?

You ought to be...

And you still don't say why you think that it reflects the culinary attitudes of the nations that make up Britain.

Sometimes, non-natives should really not pretend to be teachers.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

Remember, pancakes can be a meal, and a very nice one. Some people have them for breakfast.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]


Also short for Ravinder, a Sikh name, and Ravindra, a Hindu name.

Not that everyone Jewish or Sikh or Hindu is religious or follows dietary laws.

Plus there are sausages that are acceptable to any religion; Linda Macartney vegan are actually nicer than they sound.

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]

Keep digging, Paw.

It's better for your liver than your other activity.

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]

You're still wrong.

It's actually quite sad that someone earning a salary of sorts as a schoolteacher can't understand why didactic materials choose certain words and phrases.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

There's nothing that reflects four nations' attitude to food.

You are clutching at straws.

Life / Hey POLISH Do u like PARTYING a lot? [30]


A 1980s theme dinner!


Beetroot? Works with oscypek which of course is extremely salty.

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That's the last thing you have.

He's incoherent. Probably vascular dementia.

He can cure it by drinking a mixture of bleach and covfefe.

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]


It does.

Think of context.


Like using travel rather than go, it's a heuristic device for children.

You know less than you think. It's always a mistake for someone to try to correct a person who is not only right but also way above them.

Non-native teachers sometimes make that mistake.

Life / Hey POLISH Do u like PARTYING a lot? [30]


Hedgehog fritters.

Life / Hey POLISH Do u like PARTYING a lot? [30]

It's the fourth international hedgehead gathering...

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

Now now...

There's still nothing of any significance in your photo.

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]


It works. The question is: where did you visit last weekend?

Go is better than visited however the sentence isn't a problem. It is grammatically correct. And not especially awkward.


Because it's not an error and certainly not 'cadual'...

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How do you know he "preferred French"?

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

That's quite an assumption; and one that your text doesn't back up at all.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]


That bland text from a kids' course book has zero value.

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]

You have a curious (casual?) understanding of the term "furious meltdown".

And there are no issues with t(e language in the photos.

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Thousands wouldn't...

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]

You're repeating yourself.

Perhaps black coffee, a good sleep and a visit to an AA meeting may be worth your while.

And you've still not said what you mean by casual. A nebulous term if ever there was one.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

Because there's nothing of value or significance in your posts here and the whole (old) thread is a trolling one anyway.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

Who would bother 'detecting' the undetectable?

There is one textual matter that a person from Poland might think is an inconsistency (though it in fact isn't) however there is nothing that gives any signs to four nations' attitude to food.

Language / Mixed English Grammar Thread [233]

It doesn't work, you know. People are wise to your attempts at provocation.

And you still haven't made it clear what you mean by casual.

Food / Poles have a more loving attitude to food than here in the UK [169]

Simply because you don't actually mean anything.

As I say, stick to temperance products in the daytime.