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Just to remind everyone about Macierewicz's history:

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Quick summary - in 1992, Macierewicz already attempted to use military units to preserve the power of Olszewski and prevent him from losing power. It's well worth a read.

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So you'll agree that having a Soviet-trained officer in the cockpit of the flight that crashed in Smoleńsk was a bad idea, then?

Come on Ironside, it's absolutely irrelevant if someone received some training in Moscow 30 years ago.


Actually by the British MI6, but you know, one of the best intelligence agencies in the world must be clearly anti-Polish.


The sad thing is that you're so blinded by partisanship that you're willing to let Macierewicz destroy Poland's security for the sake of him not being from PO. Duda clearly hates him, Szydło never wanted him, the public hate him - what more proof do you need that he should go?

Tell me, why does he need such a large security force around him? Why does he have more protection than Duda or Szydło?

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There is a shortage when a huge amount of them were purged from the army. Promoting inexperienced, unqualified officers in their place is not the way to organise an army.


There are plenty of serious reports out there about it. Haven't you seen the reports about the British regarding Macierewicz as a potential threat to security?


You don't defend a country by removing large amounts of generals and colonels from active service, especially those that commanded large scale NATO exercises. Of course, if your intention is to create an army that has no experience in NATO, then you do.

I suppose those with communist connections will always, always favour pro-Russia actions over pro-Western actions, won't they?

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That's a very curious way to talk about some generals that were promoted by Lech Kaczyński as President. Is there something you're alluding to, Polonius?

Either way, I wonder why Polly would be so keen to get rid of NATO-trained and integrated generals.

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The sad thing is that even if he goes today, the damage will have been done and will take easily 6-10 years to recover from, if not more.

Where are the helicopters, Macierewicz? Where are they? We need heavy lift capacity to transport troops quickly to flashpoints, and we don't have them. Why?

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So you're willing to disregard 26 years of service for independent Poland on the basis of when they joined the army? More importantly, if you're going to discredit them, where's your criticism of General Błasik?

More to the point, anyone with a brain can see that the real intention is to remove officers who have significant experience within NATO. The three generals who led the NATO exercises in 2016 have all resigned - don't you see something very wrong with this?

There are plenty of reports out there making it clear that NATO allies no longer trust the Polish armed forces. Is this a good thing for Poland and Polish defence?

Macierewicz's aim all along has been to purge the armed forces and replace the leadership with people that will work for him. He's politicised the army and transformed it into a weak institution with inexperienced leadership. That's a good thing, in your mind?

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I can only wonder why you think that purging the Polish army of experienced generals is "good".


Who is CBOS controlled by? Oh, the Polish government. Who is out of favour at the minute? Oh, Macierewicz.


Easy enough. Macierewicz can and will cause carnage if he is thrown out. He's not a weak, pathetic figure like Szydło.

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That's what 8 years of solid, stable rule did for Poland. People had the confidence to invest in Poland, as the country was the heart of Europe and was integrating very quickly. 18 months of PiS acting like idiots won't change that, especially as they seem to be focused on war against Poles rather than against international companies. Morawiecki is also continuing the previous policy of offering large financial concessions to attract companies here.

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The same Minister of Finance has been performing some nice financial tricks to boost numbers in the short term. You need to look at these things as a whole - talking about a strong Q1 means nothing if we see a huge slowdown in Q4.

Morawiecki is all about smoke and mirrors - that strong Q1 could simply be because of huge VAT refunds at the end of the year. We won't know until about this time next year.


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Kukiz, the man who appears to have carried out a rather interesting scam in order to buy a flat for 10% of the value, right?

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The same one who predicted growth in 2016 of 3.6%? Hahaha.


No Gregy, the poor results from 2016 were a result of PiS. PO achieved 3.8% in 2015, as corrected and verified by GUS.

Numbers don't lie - the bad results in 2016 were a direct result of bad governance. You can repeat your propaganda all you want, but 3.6% in 2015 vs 2.5% in 2016 says it all.

Where are the new road tenders, Gregy? Why did PiS only announce roughly 200km of new roads in 2016? What's going on?

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Rather than relying on headlines, better to look at the actual data.

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Poland grew by only 2.7% in 2016, decline in investment by 7.9%. Quarterly, it translated as 2.9% in Q1, 3% in Q2, 2.4% in Q3 and 2.5% in Q4.

In comparison, Poland grew by 3.8% in 2015.

Eat that, pathetic PiS-supporting clowns. The figures don't lie.


Seems to me as if the hard statistical data (rather than the rubbish posted on thenews.pl) tells the real story.

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BEST EVER PRIME MINSTER DONALD TUSK EASILY DEFEATS DUDA IN POLL

The latest polls are in, and this one is a revelation. If the second round of the Presidential election were to be held today, President Tusk would defeat Duda by 49-39%. Duda will soon be condemned to the bin of history, and President Tusk will lead Poland to a new, PiS-free era in which the menace will finally be vanquished once and for all.

Supporters of the opposition are growing in strength and number, as people get fed up of Duda's false promises, fake smile and general inability to bring dignity and respect to the country.

PiS, the party of fraudsters and wife-beaters will soon be gone, and Poland will be delighted to get rid this cancer that feeds on the Polish Nation. There's a reason why people add an S to PiS, because they really do have the taste of urine.

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That's exactly it. They have no interest in "solving" it, otherwise they'd get the very best investigators available. They want to keep the wound open as long as possible, which means a constant circus.

Why is a sub-committee on Smoleńsk and not a real committee? Wouldn't be anything to do with the fact that a committee requires members to have relevant expertise and knowledge, would it?

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Well, there are lines to explore, but nonsense about explosions and so on should be ridiculed. Of course, it's much easier to brainwash people with OMG EXPLOSION!!!11 than to tell them boring details about navigational systems and qualifications and so on.

It's a huge pity that Błasik was on that flight, otherwise he would have had huge questions to answer about his leadership of the Air Force.

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For that, you need to have a consistent theory to begin with. Why haven't they published their research for everyone to examine? Is it because every time they do, their 'science' gets torn apart by real experts?

Is it really so hard for you to believe that the military were simply incompetent? You aren't believing in conspiracy theories about Mirosławiec, even though the accident was almost identical.

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So, the disgusting, depraved and downright evil news.

It concerns Rafal Piasecki, councillor for PiS in Bydgoszcz. He has denied beating his wife, yet recordings have now come to light where it's clear that he's been battering her and subjecting her to abuse. One of the reasons for battering her was that she didn't have warm food waiting for him. He also claims to have been doing it "in the name of God", which is simply disgusting.

He also appears to have subjected her to violent abuse while she was still breastfeeding, which says it all.

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Perhaps that's why he's quit, as he realises that the whole deal stinks and that Poland has gone from a tender whereby Poland would obtain 50 heavy-lift helicopters (badly needed) to...nothing. A man like him (who isn't an aviation expert, BTW) perhaps realises that if Macierewicz falls, he would probably fall along with him.

Still, if you think Poland losing out on vital heavy lift capacity and replacing it with nothing is a "thing done right", well...

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That's indeed the one. But let's not talk about him now, because it's far more interesting that the member of PiS that I mentioned allegedly was forcing the child to walk around his flat naked, while allegedly beating him in the process.

Perhaps Polly can tell us what he thinks about the situation.

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As he should. Haven't you seen the latest polling? Duda only has the trust of 34% of Poles, while Szydło has a mere 27.5%.

The people are speaking, and in 2019, PiS will be condemned to the dustbin of history, just like the SLD in 2005.

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SICK CHILD MOLESTING PAEDO IN PiS?!

Poland was shocked recently to discover that a member of PiS has been accused of being a nonce. Jacek Świat, from Wrocław, has been accused of molesting a 8 year old boy by the father of the child.

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One can only hope that should the accusations be proven in a court of law, Mr Świat will be chemically castrated in accordance with the law that the best ever Prime Minister, Donald Tusk introduced.

Tomorrow: find out more about how PiS and "family values" actually mean depravity, disgusting behaviour and downright evilness.

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MLM scam, I assume. It's exactly the language used by these scammers.

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In Ukraine? Most of them aren't using Polish in daily life anyway. Have you ever been? The Roman Catholic churches there in areas where there are a Polish minority tend to use both Polish and Ukrainian during services.

As for Poland, Cyrillic does fit Polish quite well, but a spelling reform in Polish would sort out the problems in Latin anyway. I know the historical reasons behind many 'odd' spellings, but it's really time to reform it.

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Hard to say Polly, because щ is much more efficient than shch, What you say about using more diacritical marks is also messier than the current Cyrillic.

Having said that, it wouldn't hurt them to move to a Serbian-style solution where both are in common use.

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Works for me. It's certainly far less embarrassing than watching the Minister of Defence put his 26 year old male (insert choice of words here) in various highly paid jobs.

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Not really. That issue has been and gone, as Tusk will no longer have any ambitions of being PM. Kopacz had her chance, and she will be loyal to Schetyna now. Schetyna will naturally back Tusk for the Presidency as the most obvious and successful candidate, so PO are actually in quite good shape now. Is it enough to win the 2019 election? No, not yet. Much more hard work needs to be done between now and then.

Now, what about the latest developments within PiS? I've just read this article - natemat.pl/206137,zaczela-sie-gra-na-rozlam-kontra-najbrutalniejszy-atak-tak-w-wielka-sobote-rozpetala-sie-wielka-wojna-na-prawicy - what's your thoughts, Polly?

My own opinion is that Macierewicz should go. He's shown terrible judgement and lied through his teeth on several occasions, and PiS don't need him. Poland needs a Defence Minister who will concentrate on building up military cooperation with both Europe and America - Jarek has always said that a common European defence force is in Poland's interests (which it is), and getting more American troops on the ground won't hurt any as well. Macierewicz is simply not cut out for it - PiS can and should do better.

More to the point, PiS don't need weak links like him around.

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Does anyone else get the impression that Polly is living in some sort of alternate universe?

They're 1% off the lead in the latest poll, and yet you're suggesting that they're in trouble?

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Oh, but it does. Wasn't it only a few weeks ago that Morawiecki was claiming that PiS will rule for 16 years? Seems to me like they'll be lucky to survive for 4.

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Which certainly explains the latest poll result:

PiS: 28%
PO: 27%
Kukiz'15: 12%
N.: 5%

28% is a terrible result for PiS - they're now below the "iron vote" of the 30%, and the monthly average shows that PiS and PO/N. are separated by only 0.4%.

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Another American with no connection to Poland trying to stir up tension in Europe. What's the game here?

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This is just the beginning. Jarek obviously snapped when he saw the headlines, but there's still plenty more #misiewicze out there to be weeded out.

The surreal thing here is that Macierewicz thought he could get away with it, when even most PiS supporters can't stand the boy.