News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Miloslaw

The state of our airforce is still magnitudes above yours.

That said, can it reach Mach 1.9 and hold it? Yes or No? Its a simple question

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Miloslaw

Its not deadly. Its trash. We want an interceptor. What we get with that Trash? If an enemy aircraft enters our airspace we could rather send a Cessna. This **** can only reach mach 1.6. it cant hold Supersonic speeds for long or risks to break apart.

Easy question, our demand is mach 1,9 and the aircraft must be able to hold it constantly. Can it do that? Yes? No? Eurofighter can. F-18 can as well.

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@Dirk diggler
Of course in east. Thüringen.

You know what? Our class teacher skipped Buchenwald Trip and went bowling with us 😁

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Miloslaw

Well, we will be using Typhoons and few F18 until our next gen jet is ready.

The F-35 is too slow for us.

The production quality is trash.

Btw will they be produced in poland?

Germany would demand to be implemented in production in such a contract. Dont know If Poland plays on Same Level.

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@Miloslaw
Why should i weep? Because Poland spends it money on trash? Not my tax money

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

I love our history.

And one thing, its not just here in east. In many West German states Like Bavaria, AfD won big as well.

And its not in all schools. I had good teachers who placed much time in German history and Said their own opinion. No leftist propaganda ****.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Spike31

The F-35 was not good enough for us, but its good enough for you?

Germany wants 85 new fighter jets. The F-35 was kicked out of selection, because its trash. We want buy Eurofighter (which cost more) and a few F-18 Super hornest because the nuclear sharing treaty.

Hey how is LOT doing with their Boeing only fleet? :D

thefirstnews.com/article/lot-polish-airlines-pay-high-price-for-grounded-boeing-maxs-7166

LOT Polish Airlines pay high price for grounded Boeing MAXs

Dude the americans rip you guys over the table so fast, you think the friction heat is love.

You know what must anger you most? You spend good money, get trash for it...and you cant even brag with the equipment, since its called trash evrywhere. In all media.

And you know whats even worse?

If Germany had bought it, we demanded it to be build in Germany and Germany be implemented into the program.

Poland doesnt even get that. You pay and get the trash thrown on your door map.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Spike31

Not when its dead slow. Which the F-35 is. Its a lame duck that can barely hold Mach 1.6. Thats laughable.

The Eurofighter is 500 km/h faster than that.

Your rubbish about "invisible" made me laugh. You assume i think its invisble?

Dude seriously.

At daytime the F-35 cant be used, because its so slow that any given fighter jet can take it down.

It depends to fly at night and trust that its radar signature cant be detected. Which proved wrong. Since german radar detects it easily.

Since it has only one engine, its dead in the air.

In any scenario it lost in dog fights. Even the old F-16 can easily out maneuver it.

Recent tests show that it gets unstable at higher speed, when it reachs Mach 1.6.

Infact its so badly designed, that it can hold super sonic speeds only for short moments, or it breaks apart

defensenews.com/air/2019/06/12/supersonic-speeds-could-cause-big-problems-for-the-f-35s-stealth-coating/


This entire plane is the most funny fighter jet ever developed

The New York Times call it

Inside America's Dysfunctional Trillion-Dollar Fighter-Jet Program

nytimes.com/2019/08/21/magazine/f35-joint-strike-fighter-program.html

But i guess its good enough for Poland.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Miloslaw
I did read. Its bullshit though, written by someone who has no clue about tec.

The radar detected the aircraft by its radar signature. The transponder was used to see that the signal indeed can be connected to the meassured radar shadow.

Journalists are idiots who have no clue about such things. The journalist who did write that has the IQ below room temperatur.

Fact is, we can detect it. And i have no doubts any industrial nation can detect this piece of **** as well.

Beside that, its lame and slow. Just one engine. Well at least its cheap.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Miloslaw

Bullshit. It is made of matter. Matter always is detectable when it crosses radiowaves.

Its also not the most advanced. It lacks behind in evry field to F-22.

If it would be most advanced, USA would not sell it.

F-35 is the crap you sell to your 2nd grade allies. It has just one engine, is slow, has low quality and is cheap.

Undetectable, my ass. Even syria managed to badly damage an israeli one.

The good thing in poland buying this trash is, that we can test our new radar system on it.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Miloslaw

Yes exactly, it shows that the F-35 is garbage. Germany can detect it and i have no doubts that Russia can detect it as well.

So whats left? A slow aircraft with american beta tech, garbage.

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@Spike31
By buying crap Like F-35 you become a victim. You waste good money on trash.

Look, Germany developed a radar that can bust the F-35. Now tell me, If we can detect it, what makes you think Russia cant?

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@Dirk diggler

Dont talk about modern germans feel. Im a modern german and a young voter and give a **** about Hitler and all that. AfD has major election victories and we say we want end this holocaust folklore and rubbish. A 180° change regarding that.

I feel zero guilt nor do i care. It was a bad time. So was the british occupation of india or what the americans do in vietnam and iraq.

Im not responsible for what happened, not even my parents or grandparents and i dont allow anyone to use that stuff against me.

Beside that the same groups that once supported Nazis are now for gender gaga and cultural marxism. The Greens and communist swines are same as NSDAP. ANTIFA is SA.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@Torq

Do they know in Poland that Hitler acted extremly harsh against the old german imperial figures? Old noble families had to endure much pressure. Old generals, officers and so on as well.

Hitler did not fear communists. He feared german patriots, nationalists. And his fear proved to be right. It were german patriots who tried to blow him up.

Its so bizarre. In public Hitler based his bullshit propaganda on german titans like Bismarck but behind the curtains he threatend Bismarcks granddaughter with execution.

My great grandfather (dont know english word, father of my grandfather) was an officer in that time. Im lucky he is still alive and can share his story. He said it was so strange and he was a young man and did not know what to think. All made fun about Hitler and his idiots like Göring and Himmler.

But you had to fight, simply because basicly Germany was taken hostage. If you did act against what was ordered it felt like you betray your country.

He told me alot of what was going on. And im thankful because its much more than what one learns at school.

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@Spike31
Hitler was leftist communist scum.

Why you think Hitler hated Emperor Wilhelm II and evrything the old wilheminian empire did stand for.

Only the most retarded would support Hitler and the only party that stands for that is NPD, which is below 2%.

AfD is conservative, standing for powerful patriotism, personal freedom, against public indoctrination and leftist gender gaga.

And one thing, Stalin, Hitler, Mao Pol Pot...same ****, different name.

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@Lyzko
History says same about far left.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@johnny reb

Yes, so we have Just one engine, a malfunctioning gun and its stealth already busted.

Germany declined to buy it but Poland applauds this ****.

This plane is trash

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Rich Mazur

Yup, keep in mind that F-35 is outdated trash.

The Thing is, its slow, once its stealth is away, its dead. Germany could bust its stealth, so what makes one think Russia cant?

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Spike31

The new submarines are capable to launch.nuclear weapons. Germany has 2000 tons Plutonium. 2nd largest stockpile in the world. We can build any nuclear weapon in a matter of days. Its called the Japan Option and a Work around the nuclear treaty. Or how Experte say, to be Just one screw away from the bomb.

As for your First comment, yup, because they were in repairs. You dont even have that. No Transport Planes, No subs.

As for Trump, He wants us to spend 2% GDP on defense. That would mean we would have 2nd largest Military in the west.

Occupied by American troops? You are occupied by americans, german and french troops. Its called NATO.

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@Spike31

Do you have Airports in Poland?

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@Spike31
This disproportions cant diminish with time, because they are rocked in stone since millenia.

You are right, numbers dont lie. And becase your growing is based on your size, the distance between Germany and Poland grows even bigger.

You would need 9% annual growth to get the same numbers of growth as Germany. Which would mean with 9% annual growth you would be able to keep the status quo. You dont have 9% growth, which means the distance even gets bigger.

Germany too has heavy weaponry of evry sort. Even nuclear capapable submarines.

Defense politics never depend on "political oppossition". Even more so since Trump wants that Germany becomes 2nd largest military on the planet. Its Trumps dream that Germany spends 2% GDP on defense, which would give us an army more powerful than China (bigger than UK and France combined). At NATO summit he said Germany could even go to 4%, which is true. But we see no need in it. At least now.

Spike its better you look at history and do so quite good. Poland always was let fallen down, like a hot potato.

Your country always was used as pawn. Once you are not needed anymore, they drop you. Again and again. Your entire nations history, is a history of betrayal.

Your best option is to have good relations with Germany. Russia wants gut you. USA doesnt care about you. Germany is the only power that actually has a more friendly outreach towards Poland

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@Spike31
Thats ok, i think we can live with that.

As i said, today is a day to celebrate. AfD managed to shot down Merkels planned sucessor.

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@Crow

What are you talking about? Nobody in Germany cares about Serbia.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Spike31
maybe but even in decay its magnitudes above poland.

You will never be infront us in military power for the simple reason that you dont have the economy for it. Never had. Never will have.

With morale you pretty much cant mean working morale and technical standard morale.

Your GDP is 525 billion...thats roughly the economic power of Baden-Württemberg. Your entire economy is the size of a single german state. Just to put things into perspective.

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@Spike31

Your german hate is funny.

Today is no day for argue. Its a day for joy. Merkels minion AKK announced to step back. The AfD election sucess in Thüringen, exposed her weakness.

Its a great day. Merkelism starts to crumble apart

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@Spike31
bla bla bla

comrade if you want insult, try at least to be creative. I could now counter insuts against Poland but what for?

Maybe before hurling insults at your bigger neighbor country, make potato salad or something. Its just cheap and kinda pathetic.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Spike31

Even Syria was able to shot at israeli F-35 badly damaging one.

The F-35 is trash.

We live in 2020 and you celebrate your country to depend on old trash that has no future in a world of AI weapons, drones and automated systems. A slow aircraft, with single engine, not working stealth.

Not good enough for Germany, but good enough for Poland?

The thing is, the Eurofighter can blast it out of the sky. And i have no doubt that russia can do this as well.

I hope you get it cheap.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Spike31
exactly. Its mass produced for export, because its trash.

Wonder why USA doesnt export any F-22? Thats a top aircraft.

F-35 is garbage and depends on other aircrafts to protect it, because its low speed.

Its a guarantee to bind you on the americans, because without their support, F-35 will be shot down like ducks.

Germany looked into the F-35 and considers it garbage. It was kicked out of competition, as too slow, to fragile, too bad quality and ridicilous things like its helmet, which costs almost a million € each and is adjusted for each pilot.

Its stealth is broken as well, since our new passive radar busted it.

I know Poland likes to get pulled over the table by america, but thats up to you.

Look at your national airline LOT. Only Boeing...and now gets it from behind because Boeing bad quality standards.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

I know only one women from poland here who speaks german. She works as translator at a farm to make communication with harvest helpers more easy. She speaks German with a polish accent but very well.

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@Torq
Is that a joke?

Look, German has brought up some of the greatest poets in the world, like Goethe and Schiller.

For a German polish or russian sounds harsh and robotic. That doesnt mean i would attack someone speaking it.

Im a calm guy with the intention to avoid trouble. But if someone headbutt me, i assure you that person would end with broken jaw.

I would never use physical violence if someone uses words to insult me, the moment someone would attack me in your trains, i would hope your railway company has good cleaning crew and im sure your law allows self defense.

That said, someone who atacks a professor for speaking German obviously has a psychological problem and needs to be locked up.