News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


Сорокин sits in Berlin, like a bourgeois pig - making vague pronouncements about what is to come.

He has no longer any right to read us lectures.

Look at this interview (his first in... forever):

The guy interviewing him is perhaps Russia's most famous film critic. A guy who is not stupid himself. So the interview turns out rather well.

This is not the Sorokin that we knew.

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All these are good reasons... but I feel you are missing the most important ones.

That is, that:

1) Close to $350 billion dollars of aid have been provided to Ukraine. Contrast this with the $3-4B that Israel receives annually from America, and about which the whole world complains.

2) America and Europe have made available their constellations of spy satellites, reconnaissance aircraft, and special forces operators to assist Ukraine.

3) America and Europe have emptied their weapon stockpiles, and handed everything over to Ukraine.

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I think these factors, explain everything much better, than any concrete fortifications or presence of relatives.

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This tells me something is rotten in the Kingdom of Poland... for each citizen of a good republic must want to be kissed on the stomach by his leader.

The thought of Putin blowing raspberries on my stomach... gives me indescribable joy.

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When I was younger, I wanted to ride on Putin's stallion - bare chested - as we witnessed the glory of God's creation in the endless expanses of Siberia.

To help our leader guide the storks on their winter migration, in his delta plane.

To dive with him, for Greek amphorae in the bays of Sevastopol.

Now - all I want is to be kissed on the stomach by the Eternal One.

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News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


I think a solid "51".

I'm smarter than the bottom half of real dummies.

But still confidently below those august and enlightened individuals who drive our societies forward.

I'm a passenger - in the most essential sense. I'm just along for the ride, and up for whatever adventure.

I don't pretend to know what's up, and what we gotta do next.

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You know me, Maf, as even my own wife does not know me.

It's true - buried deep within - is a flame. A flame of passion.


That young gentleman could not be born earlier than 1999. At least a decade too late to be yours truly...

But do I want Putin to kiss me on my tummy? Yes... and why not?!

Does a Frenchman not want to be kissed on the belly button by Macron?

Does a German not want to be rocked to sleep by Merz?

Can an American go through a day, without seeing the visage of the Sun-Like one on FoxNews or MSNBC?

We are all human, in the end.

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Yes, the meek will inherit the Earth - but not her mineral rights.


I never purported to feel sexual attraction towards Putin.


You sound just like a woman - I SWEAR TO GOD!

Spouting all this nonsense about fairness, and equity, and moral principles. Are you a Pole or some Luxembourger? Next you will begin to tell me that disabled people deserve protection, and that how we treat our older people is a good indication of our moral virtue as a society. Enough!

Speak like a man! Otherwise go back to your corner and be quiet. You are sounding too much like a battered wife.

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Sometimes you sound like a reincarnation of Pilsudski and Dmowski combined - and sometimes you sound like a little frightened chicken.

What gives?

What kind of a Polish patriot are you - if you have to hide behind these pathetic arguments?

You don't believe that the strong deserve to rule the Earth? What kind of conservative are you?

You think mere words, are enough to stop artillery guns and missiles? Are you a child?

You talk of "right to exist" as if you are some woman on her period, right after exiting a "social justice" class.

You are very emotional Korvinus. Is everything ok with your hormone balance?

I respected you as some hardline Polish nationalist, but sometimes you sound like a 16 year old girl from Beverly Hills - and this is very confusing.

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BB... did you not get enough of these articles in 2022-2023? You are beginning to sound like Miloslaw...

At this point, you should have learned the usual rhythm and "swing" of Western media - as far as it concerns the conflict in Ukraine.

They oscillate between "Russia is finished" and "Russia is about to invade NATO" - with a frequency of about once every few months.

God knows what the purpose of these wild swings is, but I suspect a large part of it is intended simply to keep readers engaged (rather than some grand warmongering conspiracy).

Russia is neither "finished", nor "about to win".

Trump deciding to "get serious" with Russia, should also not phase experienced observers. Biden was "serious", over a longer period of time, and more explicitly.

Putin and Co. can survive whatever Trump throws their way - at least for some period of time. So don't expect quick results or rapid shifts in position.

Kremlin and friends spent more than half a trillion dollars, and hundreds of thousands of lives on this war - they won't fold "simply because".

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News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


Precisely.


The charisma of Russian leaders at that time will play an important role.

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Not a Poland that has been violently ripped out of its conventional economic relationships.

Poland will lose all 35 years of prosperous development, and end up at a level it had not experienced even in 1989. All this burden - will lay down flat on the Russian federal budget.

Geniuses like Putin, will of course make it our collective job to ensure that Poland "does not live worse than the developed West".

This will begin with our familiar tools - "let's give the Poles essentially free energy - we have a lot." Then, "Let's lend the Poles $50-60B dollars, to shore up their economy - we got nothing to invest in anyway".

Eventually - nothing will work, the Poles will be angry at us, and Russians will be angry at Putin.

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No - I am trying to convince my compatriots that conquering and feeding Poland is a fool's errand. That, this amount of investment and effort should be dedicated to improving the lives of our countrymen instead.

"Feeding Poland" sounds like a punishment, if anything.

The alternative to feeding Poland (if we are to conquer this place), is ethnic cleansing and genocide. Not sure how many people have the stomach for this exercise.

Killing women and children only sounds "easy", but in reality it's very hard.

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Whoah!

I would have loved to be there.

I hope Rich lives to 120, and continues to write here until then.

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

We need a friendly Poland.

In general - we need a friendly East. In addition to Slovakia and Hungary with whom we are bosom buddies, we need good relations with the Poles and Bulgarians.

Romania can go f*ck itself.

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The way to be friendly with Poland is to let their relationship with Ukraine and with the EU run its course.

The more we intervene, the worse we make it for ourselves.

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What will we do with Poland, once we "have" it?

In Russian, there is a phrase - «чемодан без ручки» - or a "suitcase without a handle". That's what Poland would be for us.

Torn away from the Brussels teat, from their familiar markets, and established industrial cooperations - Poland will be ours to feed. How will you feed 38 million of them?

By taking from Russians, and giving to Poles? We already had such geniuses - like Stalin - that sent resources to our "socialist brothers" even as Russians starved to death.

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I think if invading Poland is a discussion people want to have - then it has to be pragmatic. You have to answer the three questions:

1) Why?
2) How?
3) Will we be able to keep it?
4) What benefit accrues to Russia and Russians at large?

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Hahahaha!


Oh, this "someone" must be an exceptionally wise and erudite man.


Years of spending time on this forum, has really turned me around to the Polish perspective.

I'm sorry Grunnie, this must be exhausting as a Pole.

I read recently an article which discussed Nawrocki openly admitting that Poland is interested in acquiring nuclear weapons. Surprisingly enough for myself - I was not annoyed.

Now, I know why getting nukes is deadly for Poland, and probably an "unliftable" expense, but for the first time I did not feel annoyed as a Russian.

God knows Poles suffered enough - if they want nukes - maybe they should have them.

We have North Korea as a neighbor - and it has nukes.

America across the Bering Sea - and it's ok.

Huge border with China - and it has nukes - and everything is ok.

Poland with nukes, Poland without nukes - everyone will be ok. At least Poles will feel good.

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Very good, sir! At least some people still have standards.


Yes, very un-Slavic and un-Christian attitude from this gentleman.

Genocide is a very Western or bourgeois practice.

The Russian state is punitive in its nature, not exterminationist. It aims at controlling, or subjugating other peoples - not erasing them.

The proof of this is the continued existence in our country of Bashkirs, Tuvans, Chechens, Alans, Ingush, Khakas, Mordvin, Tatar, and other minorities.

At the same time, where are America's Apaches?


Knowing Pawian, he won't take the money. "Dirty Russian money" - he'll say.

Will have to get it to him, in a way that he cannot suspect its origins - yet would still lead to a higher quality of life than in German-occupied Gdansk.

Maybe, we could make him the honorary consul of the Republic of Tajikistan, in the Malopolskoye General-Gubernatorstvo.

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This hurts my feelings, but also confirms some of my long term suspicions.

For all your supposed Russophilia, you would still prefer German occupation to Russian occupation...

A person who truly loves Russia, would always prefer Russian occupation!

Look at Navalny - the minute the guy woke up from a coma (in Germany), he was in a hurry to go home - where he was promptly put in jail. This shows you - that a good person prefers a Russian prison to a German hospital.

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I was opposed to war with Poland, before reading this post.

Now I feel we have no choice but to invade, if only to ensure that Pawian has a more prosperous life than Kania.

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Well, Elon Musk yesterday retweeted Pavel Durov's (founder and owner of Telegram) post about the Moldovan elections.

See for yourself, below.

I don't think any one can credibly argue that Durov is an FSB agent. His Telegram app was banned in Russia a few years ago. He has left the country and has become a French citizen. He constantly criticizes the Putin government.

Durov has no need to carry water for Putin.

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News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

What is happening - Poles?

What are you worried about today?

How can I make you feel more comfortable?

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You are a funny fruit.

Do you understand how strange you look?

Where did you go to school? Me and Velund we shared this biographical information.

Do you live in Russia now?

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Where are you from in Russia? What have your feelings been since February 2022?

Where do you think we should take this war, and how should we think about potential escalations?

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

I have a strong suspicion Grabber is Novichok.

But everything else he wrote - he's a fraud.

Why are you doing this, sir? What's your interest?

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This is nonsense, but something one might believe if he had been cursorily involved in the narrative.

What conversions? What's more - people were killed as consequence of not converting? This is some new history. M


This is bloomin nonsense.

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A dozen other little things.

Syntax.

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Why do I have this strong feeling, that M. Grabber is as Russian as IKEA meatballs with lingonberry sauce?

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I see you are a very stable genius.

You have convinced me - no more arguments from me.

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It's not just a big bomb.

It's quite literally thousands of times more powerful, than a big bomb.

A very, very big bomb - may contain 1 or 2 tons of explosive material.

A very, very, small nuclear bomb - like the one used at Hiroshima (Little Boy) - has a TNT equivalent power of 15 kilotons. That's 15,000 TONS of TNT.

That is, the Hiroshima bomb - a crude device made in 1945 - was already 7,000 to 15,000 times more powerful than the most powerful bombs.

Modern Russian nuclear devices, average 150-300 kilotons. That is - 10 to 20 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN HIROSHIMA.

What's more, each missile carries 6 or more of these re-entry vehicles. So one Russian missile, can have an explosive yield of more than a megaton of TNT equivalent. So, it is 60 to a 120 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

I think you are confused.


Very curious to understand what histories you are reading. The rest of the world, knows that only one bomb was dropped on Hiroshima - but Ron2 knows about 100.

Lol.

A modern Russian missile will make Hiroshima look like child's play.


Again - the "nuclear weapons" are warheads, or RE-ENTRY VEHICLES. There can be many, on a single missile.

When you understand this, then you can see that Russia has exactly the amount of nukes it needs.

The multiple re-entry vehicles are necessary, to ensure that the target will be destroyed - regardless of attempts to intercept it.

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Of course. We have the experience. Their last experience, was Vietnam mopping the floor with them - with Soviet assistance.


Well, the Financial Times article says they are interested in our airborne forces. Since Taiwan has a complex topography, with few beaches suitable for a large amphibious landing - the Chinese think that the airborne will play an important role.

They are studying our operations in Crimea in 2014, and at Hostomel airport in 2022. In both cases, Russian airborne successfully secured strategic airfields, and managed to hold them until the arrival of reinforcements.

In Crimea, it resulted in the end in a successful and bloodless takeover. Under Kiev, the regular Russian army let the airborne down, and eventually they began to be shelled from all directions by artillery - which damaged the runway, and ruled out the landing of any further aircraft.


The Russian Baltic Fleet has two jobs - mine all of the coastal vicinity, to make it impossible for NATO forces to land (in the short term), and fire off all their missiles at the predesignated targets in Europe.

After that, it can successfully sink, having done its job.

In general - Russia's strategy when it comes to Kaliningrad, is to wave around the nuclear baton. We can't defend it in a conventional sense, so we have to make it prohibitively expensive for Europe to try to invade it.

The best way to do that, is to convince everyone that we will nuke them if they invade Kaliningrad.