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Don't wipe your treacherous mugs with the name of my late lamented brother.
It was all a planned provacation. Schetyna said emotions should be whipped up inside and outside rhw Sejm, Budka knew references to Lech woudl provoke Jarek who lost his cool. Then PO MPs ran up to his bench and started quarreling with him. Then the PO MP Lenc got pushy and fisticuufs could have broken out if soemone had poked him back. If it had turned into a general fracas, Sejm officials would have had no choice but to call in the Sejm Guards. The total opposition types with their smartphones would have filmed the brawl and sent abroad photos showing uniformed "PiS Gestapo" beating the poor, abused opposition. Deputy Sejm Marshal (speaker) Joachim Burdziński said. "If we hadn't calmed things down down, the putsch scenario might have come to pass. They tried it already last Decmeber but made fools of themselves and left in disgrace ."

It hasbeen obvious since late 2015 that the main purpose of successive outbursts has been to overthrow the government and disregard the democratic will of Polish voters. Pretexts were easily found -- logging, horses, this or that piece of legislation, the Tribunal business, now the Supreme court....

But the oppositon may be in for a surprise if snap elections are ever called.. The more they rant, the better PiS do in the polls. The latest one shows PiS with 41% backing.

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Any source for that oft-repeated lie or just more hairy-b*llocking?
Any source for the Podunk Gazette or just more of the forum's Liar Laureate being himself?

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Speaking of extremism and WW2, did you know Portugal and Ireland were the only
two countries that sent condolences to Berlin on word of Hitler's death?

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Thanks to close-to-your-snitcher's-heart Targowica-style snitchers spreading their treasonous lies abroad and trying to solicit "fraternal assistancce" from Brussels or preferabyl the Bundeswehr. No such luck. NATO is vigilant and ever ready to defend Poland from outside forces.

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We're rapidly approaching the point where the so-called total opposition will pant, chant, rant and rave, spew their venom, blow their silly little red horns and wave their tastelessly insulting placards and then go home to watch a match, enjoy supper, vsit a pub or exercise the dog. And its been going on since even before the election when the brother of judicial murderer Stefan warned of impending fascism and has been ranting and PiS-bashing ever since. BTW did you see and get close enough to to Michnik to kiss his behind? The big phoney was ranting against the nasty commie-era judges and prosecutors who signed the pre-packaged verdicts and sentences handed to him but conveniently failed to mention his own brother Stefan who has Polish blood on his hands. Then when someone approached Adam and asked: "When are you going to apologise for your brother the murderer?" he showed all his class and elegance by replying: "Ty skurwysynu, jak ty zmądrzejesz!" Rush to Google translate!)

actually milling about in crowd of several thousands one cannot get the full overview provided by live TV coverage highlighting the word and activities of different agitators and hotheads.

Anyway, there will be more such Muppet Shows featuring the same tired faces of political has-beens and an increasingly diminishing army of regulars and semi-professional protesters. Schetyna predicted 100,000 would show up but only 4,700 actually did. Next time there'll be even fewer until finally the whole thing peters out and Poland will enter an at least 20-year period of good-change Law and Justice rule. And dzięki Bogu for that!

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@Atch


I beg your pardon, Madam, Poland continued the fight to secure its borders until 1922. You have sureły heard of the Wielkopolska Insurrection, the Silesian Uprising, the Polish-Bolshevik war, Gen. Haller's Army (inclduding thousands of PolAm volunteers) recapturing Lwów and parts of eastern Galicja and General Żeligowski's foray into Central Lithuania. There were no silver plates or platters, believe me! Ask Mr Atch, he'll tell you. And please give him my best pozdrowienia.

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Being robbed blind by the post-commie elites, many of whom in the early 1990s should have been prosecuted for their commie-era crimes (including martial law), forced to return their ill-gotten gains including years of dipping in the till and abnormally high old-age pensions and/or barred from public office for at least ten years and/or forced to return their ill-gotten gains such as inordinately higher than average incomes.

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I agree. It is the poltical and media elites that are promoting the anarcho-leftist-liberal-libertine-LGBT-atheist-globalist-PC agenda and trying to force it down everyone's throat. Most people just do the best they can and live their lives. If they were really consulted about the nitty-grity of things, for instance via referenda, the situation would doubtless be far different. That was proved by Brexit as well as the victories of Trump, Orbán and Kaczyński as well as the rise of patriotic rightist movements in Austria, Denmark, France and elsewhere. That shows growing public disaffection with the dictatorship of the same old lefist-liberal elites.

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What do you think of Piłsudski? A ruthless, bloody dictator? Or the saviour of Poland? He was definitely authoritarian but without that there would be no Poland today. Extreme situaitons usually require resolute action.

Poland has gone through a quarter-century of Soros-insired Balcerite robber-baron sell-offs of the country's industrial assets and the wholesale takeover of the economy by foreign banks, retail chains and assembly plants. Then we've had 8 years of Platforemr scamsterism whose fraudsters cost the country billions in unpaid VAT next to which Ambergold pales in comparison. All that was grist to the mill of the elkitist post-commie mafia which lvied in the lap of luxury while ordinary Poles had to struggle to get by or emigrate. Woudl a rerun of Tusk-style "warm tap-water" rule have resolved those problems. Maybe Ireland is too small and feckless to stand up to their British overlords and the Brusselcrat dictatorship, but thankfully Poland is not!

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So you're in favour of outside dictatorship. Got it. Your perfect country:
Transnistria.

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Only for those who equate reality with the anarcho-leftist-liberal-libertine-atheist-PC mindframe regarded as the sole source of anti-values to follow.
Sorry, Atch, but not everyone buys into that. In fact, the majority of the Polish nation do not. Bogu niech będą dzięki!

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No that tasteless, crude and vulgar Muppet Show outside the Sejm, including threats of tearing up paving stones to storm the building.

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Indeed, then he'll withdraw Poland from the EU and set up concentratkion camps. Next come the gas chambers using Trump's LNG spiked with a bit of Zyklon B, Warum nicht? Then.....you wake up with a splitting hangover headache.....

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What are you on today (grass, ampha, designers, booze) if you equate howling, shouting, ranting and threats of violence with dignity?!

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Joyless are those dour sourpusses who lack a sense of humour and take themselves too seriously. Lighten up, boy! And here everyone thought Georgia crackers and sundry rednecks and hillbillies like a gooid joke,

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You seem inclined toward hyperbole to be sure.Taking a little p*ss out of the Soviet spies' son and judicial murderer's brother is hardly anti-Semitism, and certainly not raving. Raving are the players of the Muppet Show outside the Sejm. Ravinng anti-Semitism would be callng for the expulsion of Jews form various professions or creating university quotas like they had before the war. Au contraire, I've gone on record as a sincere admirer of Jewry -- a relatively tiny nation of only 15 mln that has excelled in so many different fields in so many different countries. That is through intelligence , hard work and strong ethnic soildarity which Poles cold certainly learn from. Poles are so envious of one another they try to bring any successful compatriot down. Jews do just the opposite -- if one of their kind succeeds, they respect and promote him in every way.

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Most oridnary citizens whole-hearted support PiS and their good changes. That includes ridding the courts of PRL-era toga-clad bandits, self-serving elitists and those on the take. The sooner the better!


No worse than PiSlamic state, Radio Maybach or Podunk Pig Farmers Gazette. BTW R U 1 2?

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At today's Muppet Show outside parliament, the First Commander of the Czerskastraße Ordnungsdienst and editor of the Hymie Herald, was banging on about how he wouldn't wish Ziobro, Kaczyński or Macierewicz the kind of communist-era judges and prosecutors who signed pre-packaged verdicts and sentences, but he failed to mention that his brother was exactly such a person, now a fugitive from justice hiding in Sweden. When someone in the crowd asked him about his brother he bitterly spat back: "Ty sk*rwysynu, złodzieju!" (Michnik did not use an asterisk!)

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And like all the others, including last Decemebr's Muppet Show "putsch", they won't amount to a hill of beans. They'll rant, chant, rave and blow their silly little plastic horns and then go home and watch the telly or get drunk. Witnsesses say the self-styled Führer of Obywatele RP Kasprzak was p*ssed at yesty's rumpus. Can't really blame him. It's easier to make a fool of oneself when inebriated!

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@Polonius3


That's strange because some people do win their cases in non-RT countries.
Anyway, here are the latest CBOS fidnings:
A majortiy of Poles (51%) give the Polisjh jufdiciary a negative rating and only 36% hold the opposite view. The most telling however is that a mere 4% believe courts are truly independent and adjudicate free of outside pressure.

rp.pl/Sedziowie-i-sady/303169865-Jak-Polacy-oceniaja-wymiar-sprawiedliwosci---sondaz-CBOS.html

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What ever happened to North Delaware or Southern Pennsylavnia? The readers there feel slighted by the one and only "great"(?) Hairy-B*llocks! (ROFL!!!!!)

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You forgot the other Hairy-B*llocky chestnut about of PiS withdrawing Poland from the EU. All praise to Sturmbahnführer Schetine and Petru-Ceauşescu!


You said this should be banned so you are contradicting yourself. Nothing new for a LL who frequnetly trips over his own tongue.

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As usual, more Hairy B*llocks. It was calleld sądy na Lesznie before WW2 and by ordinary Warsovians after the commeis renamed the street Świerczewskiego after a Soviet agent. Just like Plac Wilsona persisted in the speech of old Warsovians after the commies renamed it Paris Commune Sqaure. Time and again you have proved you are an alien growth on the body of the Polish nation. You don't know the lingo, the lore, the humour, the sayings, the history and heritage and above all you do not feel the heartbeat of the nation. You are out of sync with the values. spirituality and and sensibilities of Poland. Even if they wallpapered you with Polish passports from head to toe, you would always remain a stray Anglo-expat and eternally displaced UKer.

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So you do not believe in interviewing ordinary people on the street but hang on every word as gospel truth spouted by the PO-KOD-GW-TVN and judicial post-commie mafia?

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The evidence is speaking with average Poles victimised by the post-commie courts of III RP. Can you imagine judges who (unlike your Kaczyński wanting to prosecute dissidents rant) actually did send anti-communists to jail and are still serving as judges.

Humour often tells the story. A man in court kept addressing the judge as Wasza Sprawiedliwość (your justice like your worship) and the judge kept correcting him to say Wysoki Sądzie. After a while the judge got fed up and shouted: Tu nie ma żadnej sprawiedliwości, tu jest sąd! (rush to google trnaslate).

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Care to provide a source or quote for yet another Hairy B*llocks fabrication?
You mean your Belarusian handlers haven't informed you about "sądy na Lesznie". You're no Warsovian if you don't know that.

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Care to provide the quote. Some judges are corrupt, others are simply, inept or sefl-serving. There are prolly also some who take their misison seriously and truly try to serve the people. But they must indeed be few and far between because the average Pole dreads going to court knowing how he will be treated by aloof, eltitist toga-clad swine looking their nose down on the common rabble. Like sh*t! Take an interpreter along and ask any Pole who has had the experience. Stand outside the court bldg at Leszno and chat up people leaving it.For starters: "Jak pana/panią potraktrował sąd"? "Jacy pana/pani zdaniem są sędziowie?" "Czy jest pan/pani zadowolony/zadowolona z polskiego sądownictwa?"

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Where yoiu there? Don't believe GW codswallop which is as reliable as Hairy B! Go and see for yourself. Above all, chat up some of the onlookers, normal people watching what do them is a poor man's circus or freak show. "Panie, a kto za to zapłaci?" or "Dużo szumu, z którego nic nie wynika!" or "Pokrzyczą, powrzeszczą i rozejdą się do domów!"

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I don't get your point. I was referring to the screaming, shouting, howling, scuffling and overall mad-dog hysteria that went on outside the Sejm. There should be more of the same today at 3PM but this time in broad daylight. You will get to see who the trouble-makers are unless they cover their faces.

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Such as the fair, impartial and non-partisan attributes required of judges who may not belong to a poltical party nor engage in politics. Yet, constitution or not,

they have turned their meetings and assemblies into hate-filled political rallies that engage in nothign but politics and obsessive PiS-bashing. That shows their total partisanship and lack of impartiality, making them unfit to adjudicate. But we all know the non-constructive "total opposition" ecclectically latches on to only those constitutiuonal points that serve their own ad hoc needs.