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jon357   
4 Aug 2015
History / Sin of omission against Poland (Uprising ignored by Britannica) [25]

It's an irrelevance, pol3, that's what it's. The fact is that the occupiers just didn't care; nationalists don't; they are by nature haters.

And one country dies not have, nor has ever had, editorial approval over another country's encyclopædia.
jon357   
4 Aug 2015
History / Sin of omission against Poland (Uprising ignored by Britannica) [25]

Their religIon is by the by, and the occupiers were not in the least bit interested in that. Among that three million were many who would not define themselves by a religion and many who were not heterosexual, however much that grieves you. And no group deserves to be "consigned to" a general category. And none are. Or perhaps they all should be, since fascists kill indiscriminately.

Ziemowitetc, I'm pleased that you support Yorkshire Day; a wholly positive occasion celebrating a region with a far longer and far richer history and far more culturally significant history than Poland. You should be aware though that I included it as an example of how you don't always get what you want.

Anyway, when does Yorkshire get its veto on the contents of the Encyklopedia Powszechna...
jon357   
4 Aug 2015
History / Sin of omission against Poland (Uprising ignored by Britannica) [25]

I think it's a significant enough event in the war, depending on their criteria - do they for example mention the end of the siege of Leningrad or the battle of Tobruk or the start of the Blitz? If so, the uprising should be mentioned.

Poles were Hitler's Holocaust accomplices

Some were.

Enigm

A largely British achievement.

better kill record in the RAF than the Brits

Perhaps because the Polish contingent was a very small motivated bunch of pilots with pre-war training, rather than ordinary young men who joined up after hostilities started.

the contstant inclusion of homosexuals amongst Hitler's victims

The 'constant' inclusion? Not a penny's compensation was paid until relatively recently.

but in some cases Poles, who lost many times that number,

Remember that the number of LGBT among the Poles who died at German hands (since intelligentsia were a particular target) is higher than the statistical norm among the population as a whole. Intersectionality, y'know...

Nevertheless, There are many, many monuments to Poles who suffered.

why does Britannica omit Yorkshire Day celebrated on 1 August, too, which is an extremely important event in the world?

Hugely important.

You need to come to realise that Poland isn't and never has been, nor will be an important country....sorry, it was once, my mistake but that's coz Polish royalty married into the Lithuanian royal family

Pępek Świata to nationalists. It's called the cultural cringe. That and a pathological need to blame others for, well, everything...

It rather reinforces stereotypes to see someone worked up that a foreign encyclopaedia doesn't reflect their own outlook on their own country's history. Perhaps Pol3 would like the Encyklopedia Powszechna's entries on Germany to reflect a particularly nationalistic German viewpoint. Perhaps we should give the Spanish a veto for the entries on their civil war. But which lot of Spanish?

And I reserve the right to edit any Polish book on my home town...
jon357   
3 Aug 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

The family goes back to at least Egyptian pyramid building times and you can be sure that neolithic hunter gatherers we a nuclear family

Extended families back in those days. Until very recently indeed families lived together for a whole lot of reasons. One woman, one man and 2.4 kids was very much a Twentieth Century thing.Not sure why you think 'pyramid building' is relevant to anything.
jon357   
3 Aug 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Makes no difference at all.

In Poland people don't have therapy anyway.
jon357   
2 Aug 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Nope. A family is only as 'good' as the individuals in it, regardless of number, relationship or gender. The idea of a nuclear family being regarded as 'the family' is a relatively modern and urban innovation anyway and makes no sense in many of the world's cultures.

To suggest that a woman deciding to bring up her kids without male assistance is inferior ignores so many factors.
jon357   
2 Aug 2015
Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]

It is very easy to forget how much energy is contained within drinks because they are drinks.

Yes, and the big-selling brands vary in sugar content from country to country. In Poland they tend to be high in sugar. One can of Pepsi Cola or Coca Cola has about 9 spoonfuls of white sugar in. I've come across Poles living in the UK and Germany who bring bottles from Poland because the British/German Cola isn't sweet enough for them. This contributes massively to obesity.

Also, there are many "juice drinks" in Poland, some with less than 20% actual juice, the rest being water, sugar, colors and flavors.

You have to read the labels really carefully. Sugar and obesity by stealth.

Even some 'low fat' products are a long way from low calorie. People in Poland often trust brand names and are quite naive about the damage they can do. I looked everywhere for slimline tonic water - they just don't sell it. So I buy concentrate in the UK and put it through a sodastream.

Also the Polish diet is very high in salt. This doesn't in itself cause obesity but does have a negative effect on health that makes it harder to get/stay slim.
jon357   
1 Aug 2015
Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]

Not the same as Kwaśnica etc. Nothing like butter and no spices to add interest. It actually tastes quite nasty, especially as you have to eat very little else on the Cabbage Soup Diet. It was invented by a surgeon to make fatter patients lose weight suddenly before surgery. You can have a quick weight loss, but it invariably comes back on and the diet becomes monotonous very quickly.

Personally I'm not a fan of Polish cabbage soup either, same with kwasnica. There are neither soups and nicer ways to lose weight by following a calorie controlled diet. These crash diets are not usually great - the only good one is Banting and that has its costs too.

The best cure for obesity is sensible, enjoyable, flavoursome and healthy eating. Unfortunately that rules out most traditional Polish food so you have to go for the next best thing: moderation.

Alcohol, by the way is a no-no. It converts straight to fat. Bread is also bad for obesity. Basically carbohydrates in general, and they are responsible for a lot of the obesity in Poland.

Of course the best antidote to obesity is dust.


jon357   
1 Aug 2015
Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]

Poor diet is a lot of that. One thing Platforma could do is to up the tax on unhealthy processed foods like kielbasa and other wędliny plus vodka too, as well as all the sugary stuff; however that would not be a popular move in a country that produces so much wedliny, vodka and sugar.

PiS wouldn't even approach the problem; most of these things are produced in small towns where the PiS mafia hold sway.
jon357   
1 Aug 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Some people choose to have a kid without being in a relationship. Not one shred of evidence that this is bad or that they should be pitied in any way. And certainly not stigmatised or discriminated against.
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Genealogy / Polish equivalent of "Jessie"? [48]

Yes, it does sound likely that someone called Czesława would become Jessica, a lovely British name first found in that form in Shakespeare.

There are two Polish names, Dżesika and Jesica however they are so rare as to be almost unknown.
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

That doesn't make any sense, Polly3, as usual.

You seem to be looking for a value judgement, that one type of family is better than another. That all type x are better than all type y or vice versa. The reality is very different.

You really are very unhealthy
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

their children placed into a state nursery

Most people nowadays can only dream of a "state nursery"

;-)
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Who is

abusing public aid

and what do you suggest doing to single mothers? Ritual humiliation? Forced marriage?
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Well, Pol3, in the words of the bard "a grand don't come for free" and if you don't like your tax zlotych (or dollars perhaps in your case) going to support the poor, I suggest you find a desert island.

Your 'argument' also makes no sense either. Are you seriously saying that because poor families are more likely to need support from the community than rich ones we ought to moralise about their family structure? To what end? To force a woman to marry against her will? To prevent her from divorcing? To seize her kids?

You're just moaning without making any sense, like an old biddy in the post office queue muttering that everything in the world's "disgusting" when what she really means is that her daughter doesn't phone and her arthritis is playing up.
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Nope, a 'social phenomena' as you so glibly call it does not need to 'be addressed'. A problem like bigotry, racism, homophobia, religious indoctrination, hooliganism, may well. Women bringing up their kids without male support does not. The only role of the society is to respect choices, ensure that nobody in society falls below the poverty line and that all children get as good an educational start in life as we can give them.
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

within the law

Surely you aren't suggesting legislation on this?

No-one in his right mind can say "that is nobody's business

You're mixing different issues here. All of those phenomena happen regardless of the marital status of a woman.

And yes, whether a woman chooses to have/stay with a man is nobody's business.
jon357   
31 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Or she may simply choose not to be with a partner. Plenty do and nobody else's business.
jon357   
30 Jul 2015
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [375]

You could pass for Polish, but could easily pass for German, Russian and a few other things.
jon357   
30 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

No abuse Tori, except from Pol3 who nobody takes seriously and I notice some fairly foul behaviour from yourself. Says much more about your own inadequacies than anyone else.

Your Harvard study is some foreign thing that doesn't take into account the specific conditions of Poland, especially rural stigmatisation and problems within schooling. This is a Polish matter that is alien to you.

To repeat, there's nothing to disapprove of about a non-nuclear family and those who try to stigmatise a woman for choosing/or ending up having to to bring up a family without a male present are shameful. Not her.
jon357   
30 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

And in what way, Po3 is urging decent behaviour towards single parents 'demonising' any other sort of family?

And how does your research on 'ideal conditions' mean that we should stigmatise a woman whose family doesn't fall within those 'ideal conditions'?

You really haven't thought this one through, have you....
jon357   
30 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

There you go again, Polonius3, resorting to hysteria since your premise has been proved wrong, and your attempt to pour scorn on and denigrate single parents has failed.

Many people who bring up their kids either alone or in unconventional circumstances do so very well. They do that despite the moralising from people like yourself and they do so with the very minimum support.

I'm slightly connected with a charity in Poland that supports very young single mothers who want to complete their schooling so they have a better chance of providing for their kids rather than being dependent on a man, various relatives or handouts from churches. Do you fancy making a donation?
jon357   
30 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

The best way to focus on the children is to support the single mother. Not to stigmatise non-standard families or moralise that she should get or keep a husband.

Better to treat people decently rather than to moralise at them or quote bogus American statistics. Families have enough problems without trying to keep toxic and dysfunctional ones together thereby making all parties miserable.