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Joined: 2 Dec 2023 / Male ♂
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Torq   
8 Jul 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Got any "Shorpy" style photos of Polish alpinists from the pre-war era?

Not in my current photo directory. If I come across any, I'll post them.
Torq   
8 Jul 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

know

Knew. Back in Napoleonic times.

"Le Chant des Partisans"

When I was younger, and didn't yet have allergy to all things French, I enjoyed the marching songs of French Foreign Legion (and even for a brief moment contemplated joining them). Luckily, it passed with time.
Torq   
8 Jul 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

@Bobko

Nothing like a proper male adventure to restore testosterone levels every now and then! :)

WW2-era French music

0_0

You once told me that I wouldn't speak to you if I knew the kind of music that you listen to. You were right.
Torq   
8 Jul 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Polish Amazon River: 2024

"I travelled hundreds of kilometres through the Amazon River and RioNegro, I inhaled the air and admired the breathtaking views. However, I discovered 2 years ago that we have similarly untouched by man kingdom of nature in Poland", said Jacek Pałkiewicz, famous journalist and discoverer, member of the Royal Geographical Society, best known for his discovery of the sources of the Amazon River.

Krutynia trail is one of the most (if not the most) beautiful kayak trails in Poland. It offers 90 kilometres of adventure that you will remember for a long time. This is the trail that Melchior Wańkowicz took with his daughter before the outbreak of WW2, and he wrote a book about it (Na tropach Smętka) that was hated with passion by the Nazis and burned in thousands of copies by them. Luckily, the book survived, just like the polishness of Mazury and the primeval beauty of Krutynia.
Torq   
8 Jul 2024
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

What does 'po' add in powstanie?

Emphasis mainly. 'Powstać' is definitely more emphatic than just 'wstać'.

Also, the noun 'wstanie' refers only to physical action, and in this form is rather rarely used, whilst 'powstanie' has other meanings too and can be used in a more abstract sense.
Torq   
8 Jul 2024
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

Uprising = more idiomatic

Hmm... but doesn't this 'up' in 'uprising' sound horribly redundant? If something rises it obviously rises up, not down or to the side ('downrising'?, 'siderising'?). So what's the point of adding this prefix?
Torq   
7 Jul 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Five beers, please: 1937

International equestrian competition in Warsaw's Łazienki Królewskie, June 1937. Notice the clueless guy on the first horse, who thinks that he's in the pub, ordering five beers.
Torq   
6 Jul 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Like Titanic's Captain: 1941

"Many people hold it against me that I organise parties for children, that I open parks, that the orchestra is playing etc. I remember a movie in which the sinking ship's captain ordered the orchestra to play to keep the passengers' spirits high. I decided to be such captain" - said Adam Czerniaków, the president ot Jewish Council in the Warsaw Ghetto. He commited suicide on 23rd July 1942 upon hearing the news of German plans to liquidate the Ghetto.
Torq   
5 Jul 2024
News / What will Britain's Labor Coup mean for Poland? [100]

It was written in 1889.

OK. But some of the words should have been changed long time ago, when the world already learnt what communism meant.

nickname for a football team

So do you support Leeds United or Doncaster Rovers? Judging by your political sympathies it's probably The Might Reds. *rolls eyes*
Torq   
5 Jul 2024
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

There won't be any WWIII when we stay allies, brothers and friends

I'll drink to that! :)

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Torq   
5 Jul 2024
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Long live the Polish German friendship and brotherhood!

Well said, Pawian!

We should probably start a Modern Germany Appreciation Thread to counterbalance certain Germanophobic posters here. Balance in nature and all that :)

youtube.com/shorts/ueiCFxrjjeE
Torq   
5 Jul 2024
News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [363]

it was supposed to be Srenka not Syrenka

Hey, that's no way to talk to a lady. Now I know why you still can't get a hole - lack of manners (this and the fact that you're ugly as f*ck). That's the main difference between you and your father, grandfather and great-grandfather: they all had sex at least once in their lives.
Torq   
5 Jul 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Długi, czerwony i często staje: 1934

Tram no.17 taking a turn into Muranowska Street in Warsaw. Sorry for the title.
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

@Lenka

As I said, repeatedly, I will support the new law if it is accompanied by increased penalties for malicious false accusations (not for cases of not enough evidence, obviously; as we see in our courts of law, it's not a problem). That's my opinion on the matter.
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

in this country

Those movements are much more popular abroad where aforementioned legal regulations are already in place. If we want them to gain momentum in Poland as well, all we have to do is introduce similar laws.

They don't try to demonize women but talk about the system being rigged in favor of females.

I'm afraid they do both. They are destructive and toxic as f*ck. No point giving them more fuel by introducing hasty and unbalanced legislation changes.
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

You said that males will be afraid to ask women out.

No, I said they will be more reluctant to do so, as we already see from the popularity of movements like the Red Pill or MGTOW which are trying to demonize women using the common (and sometimes justified) perception of law (regarding not only rape but also divorce, alimony, child care etc.) among men, and trying to convince men that they are better off without women. One can hardly imagine a more destructive social phenomenon.

That's why it is vital that the law discussed in this thread, and any law in general, is fair, balanced and not biased towards any particular party.

How would you differentiate between false accusations and not having enough proof to prove the rape?

Apparently our courts of law are able to do that because in majority of cases where man is found not guilty of rape (not enough proof) the accusing party walks away without consequences. Only when the malicious falsity of the accusation is obvious does the accusing party get a lawful sentence (of a monetary fine or a couple of months in prison - hugely disproportionate in comparison to what the accused man could face if found guilty).
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

it's more common for the rape victims to be accused of laying then of guys being falsely accused of rape

I would say it's the other way around. However, our subjective opinions shouldn't matter. The law should be fair and the likelihood of abusing it decreased to minimum, hence the necessity of increasing penalties for false accusations.

the real life

Do you know what will happen in the real life?

In the real life the new law won't deter the rapists because they do not follow logic or analyse legal regulations before they commit the crime. It will however make it easier to persecute them in certain marginal cases. That's a plus.

In the real life - and we know it from experience of countries where such regulations are already in place - it will be easier to open persecutions in cases of alleged rape, and still the possible penalty for malicious accusations is much too low in relation to the gravity of the crime (the man's life, career, family can be broken and if the accusation is false nothing happens to the woman or she get a bullsh*t monetary fine, or in the worst case scenario a couple of months in prison). That's a minus but a minus that we can counterbalance with more severe penalties for false accusations.

However, something else will happen in the real life. The new law is unlikely to affect people who are happily married or in stable long-term relationships. It will however affect single women as men will be much more reluctant to approach them, try to ask them out etc. (the paranoia went as far in some places as men refusing to go into lifts if there is only one woman inside). Stupid? Yes, but that's what happens if the perception of the law is that it puts disproportionate risk on one party.

Another thing that will happen in the real life is that idiotic incel movements like the Red Pill, MGTOW etc. will gain much more following which will further distort the already f*cked up modern female-male relations, social/family life and demography.

That's the price that societies will pay for passing unfair, unbalanced laws.
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

And there is no concern that the law in previous form allows rapists to go free?

Of course there is. That's why I said that I support the new law but under the reservation of increasing penalties for false accusations of rape. It seems to be a problem for you - why?
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

The significance of the crime is of completely different magnitude.

Not necessarily and not in every case. You are thinking of rape with the use of violence. The problem is that under the new law a man can be persecuted for rape for not obtaining proper agreement of a woman (text message?, written on paper?, recorded in an audio file?).

So, is not obtaining agreement e.g. in a written form, when there was no violence involved, worse than malicious false accusation that can break the man's life, his career, his good name etc.?

If the accused risks broken life and a sure prison sentence whilst the accuser risks nothing or in the worst case scenario a monetary fine or some bullsh*t sentence of a couple of months, then the law is unfair.

theft, bodily harm, murder (...) Why should rape be different?

Because people having sexual intercourse happens much more often than people killing or robbing each other, so the opportunity for abusing the law is much more likely to occur (and it does occur as we know from the experience of countries where such regulations are already in place).

So why the panic?

There's no panic but there's serious concern for the new law being regularly abused.
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

To sum up, I would definitely support the new law if the penalty for false accusations was increased significantly to deter false accusers, and if women were persecuted in every single case of false accusations and not getting away with it, or in the worst case scenario facing monetary fines or bullsh*t sentences of 3 months where the man faces 2-15 years. :(
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

Can get 8 years.

Not really. False accusations is not persecuted from article 233 of penal code (which is indeed from 6 months to 8 years) but from art. 234 or 238 (maximum of 2 years in both cases).

The sentence of 3 months from your link confirms that - if she had been sentenced under article 233 it would have been minimum of 6 months.

The penalty for rape is from 2 to 15 years - that's what the falsely accused man was facing. The woman who falsely accused him got 3 months. Don't you see the problem here?
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

It does

Really? Does a woman falsely accusing a man of rape, trying to destroy his life for whatever reason, face the same prison sentence as the man would if he was found guilty?

If not, the law is unfair and WILL be abused, because false accusers risk less than the accused.

By the way, do you know of any such case in Poland where a woman was sentenced to do time in prison for false accusations of rape?
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
News / Rape and sexual abuse in Poland [202]

False claims of rape happen already.

That's why for this legislation to be fair it should include countermeasures for false accusations. A woman falsely accusing a man of rape should be subject to equal prison sentence that the falsely accused man would receive if he was found guilty.

Otherwise, there will be women using the new regulations to settle scores for rejection, being passed over for promotion at work etc.

I appreciate that the intentions of lawmakers in this case were noble, but the risk of abusing the new law would seem to be quite high.
Torq   
3 Jul 2024
Off-Topic / Serbia etc. thread 3 [437]

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