Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


Not flipped but shared fairly.


That's clearly not true if you compare Western countries with traditional countries. Western countries are more successful, richer, etc.


Nope, it's true.


You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about. It's not only about ceding "power and privileges" but also duties and responsibilities. You know - those duties and responsibilities that men don't like so much :)))

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


Fathers from my parents generation weren't doing even that. They were simply doing pretty much nothing. That included giving zero affection to their kids.

What court would give a child to someone like that?


That's not true - at least in the case of Polish women.


Considering what their father is like - that's probably for the better lol This is probably why they turned out normal :))) Oh, and btw, I'm not talking about being "helicopter parents". I'm talking about normal parenting and simply taking care of your kids.

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


There you go, Poloniusz - that's a typical selfish, lazy, clueless, autistic and a$$holish older generation Polish father attitude for you :) (and probably typical not only for Polish fathers)

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]

@Ironside, that meme shows that I find your trolling boring (and off topic) and I'm not going to take part in it. So, I'm afraid you'll have to play on your own. 😴

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


I'm sure there were some fathers that parented, but I'm talking about an average Polish family during the time when I was a kid. I'm not talking only about the case of my parents, obviously.


Courts giving kids to mothers stems from the conviction in the Polish society that kids belong with their mother. And this is result of the fact that in Poland it have been mothers who have been taking care of kids so far. And this is because of the conviction that it's the mother's job to take care of the kids. And this is a traditional, patriarchal approach, not a feminist one. It is changing a bit with younger generations and I hope it will change further.


Yes, but provided they actually take part in their lives, actually take care of them and don't just take the back seat letting the mother do all the work.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


You don't know that :))) And it wouldn't matter anyway. It's the single women who are looking for a husband, not married women. And to a woman looking for a husband you'd be a one big walking red flag lol


I can read :)))))))

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Sorry, but based on your comments in this thread - you don't strike me as a good husband material, especially for a decent Christian woman :))) You sound like someone who's very, very likely to cheat on your wife. You're one big walking red flag lol


Nope, I developed an anti-Ironside prejudice by now :)))


No, it means I'm not going to do your work for you, you lazy ass.

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


No, we just wish all the burdens and responsibilities weren't put on just our shoulders. And if the society wants to have children, then it will have to make it easier for people to have those children. That's the reality. Wishful thinking of misogynistic a$$holes won't change that reality.

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


Oh, those dark-eyed, handsome, tanned habibis, mmmm... haha :D


There doesn't seem to be much parenting happening in Egypt, I'm afraid.


Bullsh1t. Parenting wasn't done by fathers, but by mothers. And that's what it was like when I was a kid, because many men are lazy, selfish a$$holes :)


Not really, not all feminists are the same. Just like not all "third worlders" are the same.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]

@Ironside, I'm not going to waste my time anymore - if you don't provide sources, it means you're talking out of your ass. End of story.


You're wasting my time then :/


Of course not.


I have no "anti-male pending frustration". I'm not anti-male. I'm anti-selfish__and_hypocritical_cheating_a$$holes, like you :)))


Well then... lol:

thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/4/200697/Woman-jailed-as-puppeteer-behind-revenge-acid-attack-on-cheating-husband

"On the day of the incident, Ho called Luk to get drain cleaner and planned revenge on Cheung for his extra-marital affair."

privatedetective.co.uk/infidelity-cheating-role-private-detectives-around-world/

"China's divorce rate has been growing exponentially and extramarital affairs are cited in 73% of marriage breakdowns."

:)

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


:D
Poloniusz, you probably should go and live in Egypt for a while, for example, and see how "hard-working" Muslim housewives are lol


Because society needs new people and you can't have new people without children being born. Unless, of course, you prefer importing "third worlders" :)))

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Here you have a break down of most of the points I made in my post #50:

1. Your wishful thinking that the wife should have a more "relaxed attitude" to his husband cheating is just that - wishful thinking. It is unrealistic. Most women would be hurt by their husbands cheating on them and in many cases that would be a cause for divorce in our part of the world (which includes the US where Scorpio411 lives). That's the reality. The fact you wish it wasn't so won't change the reality. So, you have to deal with reality and not men's fantasies and wishful thinking.

2. As for your comment that "we see that situation from our perspective". Scorpio411 lives in "our perspective". He doesn't live in Asia or in some tribe in Africa. It doesn't matter that you like it the way it is in Asia lol Scorpio411 doesn't live in Asia. Where he lives cheating on your wife usually has consequences - wives are far less likely to put up with it. That's the reality and, again, your wishful thinking and your male fantasies won't change that reality.

3. Monogamy isn't characteristic only for Christian and post-Christian countries. Polygamy is actually rare in this world.

4. If you and Scorpio411 prefer it the way it is in Asia then nothing is stopping you from moving to Asia :)) Don't let the door hit you on the way out! :)))



:D


No, we don't know, so please enlighten us with your sources or we'll have every right to claim that you're talking out of your ass :D

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]

@Ironside, of course there are. You prefer to pretend that there aren't any, because you have no counterarguments to what I wrote in that post #50 :)))

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


This may happen. I think it's probably not uncommon that if a marriage is failing then it's not the fault of just one person. It may happen that both the husband and wife are neglecting their relationship. And in order to fix that you have to... talk about it. Because how do you know that there's something to fix if the other person won't tell you that there's something wrong?


Why? Are you stupid? :)


You make the claim, so it is your job to prove it and provide your sources. Until you do that - you're talking out of your ass.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Well, I'd say that trying to fix your marriage is a better option than destroying it completely by cheating on your spouse - at least for normal people o_O


Iron, the fact that you were or are not able to talk about problems in your marriage and find solutions to those problems doesn't mean that everyone is like this. You're projecting too much. There are better, more mature and more intelligent people in this world than you - both men and women. I'm not saying that this is easy, but it can be done.


Nonsense. Adult people usually know enough about life to realise that after some years of marriage a crisis may come, etc. Many women would prefer to know what's wrong rather than to be cheated on and find out at some point that their husband has been having an affair for the last 5 years or is f*cking prostitutes on regular basis o_O

From a woman's perspective - the fact that a guy is willing to fight for his marriage shows that he cares. That he wants to be with his wife in a real (and not fake) relationship. That maybe he still loves her.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


If you mean Scorpio411's case then by "working on his marriage" I meant that he should tell his wife that he's missing something in their marriage. Tell her what that it is, what could be improved, etc. And if he doesn't know what is that he's missing exactly or doesn't know how to tell this to his wife or how this should be fixed, then maybe they should try marriage counselling.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Of course there are. My post #50 is full of them. Read it again.


Bullsh1t.


What scientific data? I am not aware of any scientific data showing that women get "broken" after having a few partners and are "unable to form a long-term bond with one man".


You were the one who started automatically to blame the wife and that's why I pointed out that "evolutionary biological factor" to you.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Bullsh1t. Stop with this demagogic evasion :) I presented you with some facts and logical arguments. Do you have any counterarguments?
Because it looks like you don't have any and that's why you're starting spouting your usual nonsense :))

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Nonsense. It's enough for a man to get bored after years of being married to the same woman. It's enough that the wife gets older, he doesn't find her attractive anymore and that's why he got attracted to a younger woman.

Also, Scorpio411 wrote that it's not his wife's fault. Even if we assume he's wrong and that there's something that his wife could do to make their marriage better, then the first thing he should do is to try and work on his marriage and if that fails - get a divorce and only then start chasing "young skirts".


This is simply not true :D


It is exactly the same.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


To the issue of cheating? :D Sure, maybe husbands should have a more relaxed attitude to their wives cheating too :D And aunts should grow moustache :D Very "realistic" approach on your part :D




Yes, you are.


Not only from the moral and ethical point of view, but also from the point of view of human relations and their feelings for each other. This is something you seem to be missing here.

As for viewing it from the Christian point of view - I can't really agree here. Monogamous relationships aren't characteristic only for Christian and post-Christian countries. Polygamy is actually rare in the world:

pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/12/07/polygamy-is-rare-around-the-world-and-mostly-confined-to-a-few-regions/

And if it's rare it must mean there was a reason why human relationships evolved in this way.


I don't know if the wife really doesn't care, or simply she can't do much about it. But since Scorpio411 doesn't live in Asia, I don't give a f*ck what it's like in Asia. He's clearly Christian, I'm guessing that his wife is too. It's pretty likely that they had a church wedding and that means he made an oath before God. So, he's very much living in that "Christian bubble". If he doesn't like it, then he can divorce his wife, take that Polish girl to Asia (if she's going to be interested) and cheat on that Polish girl in Asia all he wants lol

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]

@Novichok, if there a people who are too stupid and not responsible enough to use condoms and birth control pills, then such people probably shouldn't procreate (or at least until they get wiser).

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Exactly. If a guy is unable to be faithful to a woman, then he shouldn't be in a relationship that was agreed upon to be monogamous from the start.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Yes, you are :)


I don't have a drinking habit :)))


There are condoms and birth control pills these days :))

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Ah, yes, you're a hypocrite, I knew that already.


Besides his wife, kids, house and part of his income (US version), haha lol

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


news-medical.net/news/20190612/Women-have-better-memories-of-events-than-men.aspx


Based on numerous accounts of many wives - men are apparently incapable of finding ketchup in the fridge, etc., so our "super" memory skills can be useful :):



"Witch!"

Haha :D

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Firstly, you're being a hypocrite right now, because you're often getting very emotional when commenting stuff on this forum.
Secondly, I'm not getting more emotionally involved than I usually do - I'm simply speaking my mind.


No, I've never been cheated on as far as I know. How about you? And have you ever cheated on your girlfriend or wife? Or have you ever felt like cheating?


Really? Would you say the same thing if the OP was a woman wanting to cheat on her husband? :)

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


You won't distract me with your fantasy nonsense :)))


I didn't "accost" you, I asked you a simple question. Why didn't you answer it? :)


It is not about "anything" though, we are discussing a particular issue - the guy wants to cheat on his wife. That means his marriage is in deep crisis. Maybe it's even over already. And if it is over - then his wife has the right to know. Because he's just wasting her time/life.

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


So, according to you, Mr Conservative and Catholic, it's OK to cheat on your spouse if you don't have kids?


Why am I not surprised... lol 🤢

Love / Smitten and Wondering [81]


Scorpio411 wrote pretty bluntly that he doesn't want any "lectures on fidelity, religion, etc."

I don't think he has any dilemma about whether to cheat on his wife or not. He wants to do it. His only "problem" seems to be whether the girl is interested or not.


To be honest, it seems to me that his marriage has been dead already for some time - at least on his part. He doesn't seem to give the slightest f*ck about his wife... and it looks like he's been interested in that Polish girl for some time now. He claims he wouldn't feel the way he does if it wasn't for those two hugs, but I think he's lying to himself. He's been seeing her "here and there" for years, as he wrote, and even before those hugs he was "so happy to see her again" and he was the one who waited for her outside after the mass - he decided to make the first move, he was the one wanting to interact with her. So, my impression is that this crush, or whatever it is, has been going for some time now.


You're probably right...

Law / Report a stolen iPhone or other theft in Poland? [9]

@shashank24
Are you sure it was stolen and you didn't lose it? If it was stolen, then report it to the police - here's some info on what you need in case of a stolen phone:

nowydworgdanski.policja.gov.pl/pm9/porady/56598,Twoacutej-telefon-zostal-skradziony.html

Basic info:

lublin.policja.gov.pl/llu/prewencja/for-foreigners/64546,How-to-officially-notify-the-Police-about-an-offence.html?sid=7dc1bce13bed7a7e6f4ceff3bd055556

Btw, obviously, it's always the best to report the crime as soon as possible.