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Holy sh1t... I thought she's much younger than this... You don't have much time left of her being a kid then... Use this time well...


That's amazing, I'm happy for your family, especially for the kids :)))


You wouldn't have time for that with those working hours anyway :P Better focus on your kids...

Just a thought - you could do some family cooking on the weekend sometimes though, all four of you - it could be fun and some bonding time with the kids and happy memories for them :) I still remember how me and my brother were helping our parents to chop veggies for sałatka jarzynowa and helping with making cakes for Christmas. (Sorry for writing about such obvious things, but I get the impression that parents are often oblivious to the most obvious things...)

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How about both spouses work 1 job each and share chores and raise kids.


Why men don't want to do them then? lol


You would say that, because you have no idea what you're talking about.

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I never wrote whether I like it or not. And every country usually has its pluses and minuses.


You think that now... What about your kids? Wouldn't your daughter be more happy if she got to spend more time with you rather than go to a private school? The girl's relationship with her father is very important for her future relationships with men (and not only) and her self-esteem. We'll see how your kids will fare in the future, I guess...


First and foremost I don't need to have a family of my own to know what it's like to be a kid and how important a relationship with their father is for kids, especially for girls. I'm saying this from my own experience.

And I'm not saying this to put you down, Kania. It's just I'm not sure if you realise how important you are for your children...

I just don't want you to screw it up.

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No, I am not :(


So f*cking sad...




Yeah, and their kids seem so happy, right... Not suicidal at all... lol

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Oh God, I knew it... I knew it! lol No wonder you "can't understand" why women don't want to have kids or that they don't want to have many of them, or why they would want for men to share duties more, etc. That's because you've not been raising your own kids, your wife is doing that for you. You were barely spending any time with your kids.


That's sad, to be honest... But who needs fathers, I guess... o_O

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But both of us can work :))) You seem to fixate only on the guy's earnings.


But I don't consider people who can't afford to send their kids to good private schools and kindergarten and a two-storey apartment in a big city to be poor lol

I went to a public school myself, there are plenty of good public schools in Poland. You're being too dramatic, imho :)


Kania, there are professions in Poland that demand a lot of hard work, skills and expertise from people and at the same time don't pay much. And those are socially needed professions. You wouldn't call those guys "Ferdynand Kiepski", trust me.

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Then maybe the laws will change then and they will reflect the new reality.


Majority of women aren't lazy or "lazying about". Far from it.


I've already explained what are the sane and practical reasons for it here:

https://polishforums.com/news/parliamentary-elections-87850/12/#msg1928296

As for conscription to the military - the situation in Israel is completely different than in Poland - Israel is pretty much in a permanent state of military conflict/threat.

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I feel the same as Lenka.


Well, that would mean you and your wife got what you deserved too :))) Different strokes for different folks, I guess :))

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Yes, because you talk nonsense. The fact that a guy has one job doesn't make him "a bum" or "margines społeczny", especially if his wife works too. What on Earth is wrong with you? o_O


Yup, it's the same where I live and it's considered to be perfectly normal and has nothing to do with any patologia lol


Exactly.

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It looks like today also.


Yeah and that's why usually both husband and wife work. And it looks like that it happens that even if one of them earns enough (my impression is that dentists with a private practice earn a lot even in Kielce) both work anyway.


Don't be silly, unless you have proof that women take care of finances in Polska "B" and men in Polska "A" :))) Besides, in majority of Japanese families it's the women who take care of finances and I wouldn't call Japan a "B" country.

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And it doesn't matter if it's a married couple of factory workers, or dentists, for example. In fact, there's one married couple of dentists who run their private practice together not far away from where I live, another married couple of dentists in the Kielce city center and there's also a married couple of a dentist and an eye doctor that run their own place together too.


Why? Their wives don't have jobs?

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It looks like it is in Poland, Kania. I'm saying this based not only on the articles I've read, etc. but also observation in real life.


Um... The wives of men in Kielce usually have jobs too (so men don't have to work 2 or 1.5 jobs) o_O

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You mean childless? Because there are women who are single with kids and married couples who have no kids, you know :)))

That's a minority of women though and my guess is that such women usually have more strength and will to work longer than women who have kids.

But, yeah, I think that could be changed - and childless women should have the same retirement age as men. The problem is - they still would be the ones to take care of elderly parents, even if childless.


That's one of the reasons. Another is because they live longer. Didn't you read the article I linked to?


All my life I don't think I've ever known any man like that in Poland.

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I disagree it's "very unfair", at least in Poland, because:

1. Women in Poland usually have two jobs - one outside of home and another one - at home. Thus they're more exploited than men.

2. It's usually the grandmothers that take care of grandchildren when their parents are at work and it's usually women who take care of elderly parents, so they fulfill an important role in the society (and in order to be able to do that they have to be retired).

So, in order for women and men to have the same retirement age, in my opinion, they would have to have the same share of the burdens that society puts on them (or women should be relieved of their burdens). Maybe that will happen one day, but that's not what I'm usually seeing in Poland. So, for now, not only is women's life harder, but they also have to live longer for less money than men. Nothing to be envied, imho.


And this is one of the reasons why women get lower retirement pay than men in Poland. So, is that "unfair" too?:

biznes.interia.pl/emerytury/news-kobiety-dostaja-nizsze-emerytury-od-mezczyzn-zus-ma-wytlumac,nId,6561114

UK, Ireland / The "Paracetamol Myth" - Polish people hesitate to visit UK doctors. [46]

@Bobko, I guess it's the same in Poland then - "sanatoriums" are still a thing here too.


...is that hospitals are for diagnosing and treating people and saving lives, while spas offer some treatments that can improve your health/condition somewhat and help you relax, but that's it. I'd say that in Poland the word "spa" is often associated with beautifying treatments and relaxation. If you want to improve your health (and relax) you go to a "sanatorium".


Yes, as I already wrote - it does happen, but if it is needed. As in - it's about health and not about staying at the hospital, because you "enjoy being looked after", as Bobko put it. And you would have to pull some strings (or pay a big bribe, I guess) in order to "overstay" in a Polish hospital.


Only from the "Maxi Kaz" song :))) ;D

I think the only sanatoria places that I visited were Busko-Zdrój and Krynica-Zdrój, but I've been there as a tourist, not a patient.

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He asked: "Do Poles check into hospitals as if it were a spa in the south of France?"
His question was pretty straightforward and your answer was somewhat confusing, so I cleared it out.

You wrote this...:


...which isn't really the case. I mean, sometimes it happens that someone isn't well yet and some people have connections and they pull some strings to get the needed care for longer. One of the most shocking cases I've heard of is the one of Witek's husband lying for months on ICU. But generally, judging by what Bobko wrote, in Poland it's different than in RuSSia - Poles don't treat hospitals like some spa. I'd say it's the sanitariums mentioned by you that are treated in this way, if anything.

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Why...? o_O


Defenitely not. You want to get out of a Polish hospital as soon as your condition/health allows for that lol Apart, maybe (to some extent, at least) from elderly people who live alone - at the hospital they have company then.


Sanitarium isn't the same as hospital though and Bobko was asking about hospitals.

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Tell that to the Japanese, smart ass, haha :D


Run, Kania, run... :D

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Oh, no, no, that's not how it works :D Oh, Kania, how would you survive in Japan??? :D:

japan246.com/2017/01/26/finance/

"60% of wives and 20% of husbands control finances at home in Japan.

-Sompo Japan Survey, 2013

The Japanese wives are actually "most powerful" at home compared to wives in other cultures. The majority of the Japanese women are solely responsible for making domestic financial decisions. When a man makes a big purchase, he would have to ask for permission from his wife in most households. The average Japanese husbands receive weekly or monthly "allowances." The wife may or may not work. It doesn't matter how much money she makes. It's probably because most Japanese men know deep in their hearts that the Japanese women tend to be more "financially savvy" and they will end up saving more money that way. If the husband is not happy with the amount of his allowances, he can negotiate with his wife. However, it is usually met with a comment from his wife such as "YOU need to make more money in order to do that."

Holy moly... :D

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LOL :D

Kania, seriously? Then you dislike and disagree with the reality... Sorry to say, but a lot of Polish men are like this... I don't like it either, but that's the reality.

The difference between you and me is that I don't think it's better if the man is in control of family finances. I prefer partnership - for me that's the most healthy option. Unless one of the spouses has a real problem and spends too much money uncontrollably, but, still, such stuff should be agreed upon.


Yes, that's how it works in Japan, btw, which is still a pretty traditional society. In Japan even the housewives who don't have a job outside the home run the family's finances anyway. Japan - the land of margines społeczny :)))

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Read my post above.


So you refuse to acknowledge reality... That's your problem.

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It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. It's about facts. Almost 60% of Polish families surely aren't "margines społeczny".


And, again, what you're writing goes against facts. Those "frail and emotions-driven females" are BETTER at managing money than Polish men:

mycompanypolska.pl/artykul/kobiety-maja-mniej-pieniedzy-ale-lepiej-nimi-zarzadzaja-i-nie-wpadaja-w-dlugi/11428


It doesn't have anything to do with that. A lot of Polish men are simply lazy as far as family life is concerned, they are accustomed to the fact that mommy/wifey does everything for them and that includes worrying about money and managing them.

So, it's not that "family life is deteriorating" in Poland lol In many Polish families family life has been always like that. And in my opinion it's because Polish men are often being raised like that - they are accustomed that a lot is being done at home by women and they take a back seat, because it's simply... convenient for them. They don't have to do or worry about anything or much at home.

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Wow... You must be living in a different Poland than me. Where I live it's perfectly normal and it was normal since I can remember, so I see no "deteriorating" here. Polish families are quite often pretty matriarchal in some ways - and that's not only my observation.


Then you don't know Polish society, imho, sorry...

Almost 60% of Polish women manage the family's finances, according to KRD report.

According to you almost 60% of Polish families are "margines społeczny"? o_O lol


Yeah, a very strange thing to say by a Polish man lol It's like Kania was born yesterday :)))

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@GefreiterKania, I disagree - it's common in Polish families for the wife to manage the family's finances (so they're the Minister of Finance, the Minister of Health, the Minister of Education, etc. etc.):

wyborcza.biz/biznes/7,177151,28189419,kobieta-przejmuja-kontrole-nad-rodzinnym-budzetem-coraz-czesciej.html

And it looks like that Polish women are better at managing money than Polish men:

mycompanypolska.pl/artykul/kobiety-maja-mniej-pieniedzy-ale-lepiej-nimi-zarzadzaja-i-nie-wpadaja-w-dlugi/11428

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That's all in your head. Although I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't believe in it yourself and you're just trying to blab your responsibilty away.

And, btw, I'm not nice all the time. I'm nice to people who deserve it.


Calling someone "stupid" all the time (and just because you don't agree with them at that) isn't "harmless". It's f*cked up. If you really don't understand that - you're f*cked up.

I know I am not stupid, so it doesn't affect my self-esteem, but your behaviour tells me a lot about you.

I may sometimes call someone stupid/a moron if they call me stupid, but I rarely do that if someone doesn't do it to me first. Someone would have to write something really, really stupid or crazy.

But you're doing this all the time to me (and you started it). That tells me that you're doing this on purpose to put me down and you're enjoying it. And this is sick. It's your toxicity, your lack of empathy that affects me, because I hate such people. I hate toxic bullies like you.

Besides calling me "stupid" all the time, you also often follow me around on the forum and you're telling me to "shut up" when I discuss with other people. So, you're the control freak here.

And then, sometimes, out of the blue you feel like "flirting" with me or have a little "jokey time" with me and you expect me to behave like nothing happened and like you don't abuse me and pick on me all the time? Well, sorry, but no, thank you, a$$hole. You don't get to abuse me and then flirt or joke around with me whenever you feel like it.


LOL
What a pile of nonsense, you really flew off to the Moon right now :D

Even in the US there are some basic rules of social interaction, some basic principles concerning discussing with other people and some expectations on how a normal person should behave. And you, must often than not, break those unwritten rules.

And no, you won't go to jail for that, you won't even get permanently banned on this forum and I can't "forbid" you to behave the way you want.

I can't forbid you anything and I'm not trying to do that, I'm just saying that you're behaving like a toxic, nasty, angry a$$hole with issues almost all the time and that's not normal. I wanted to see if I could help you to you understand that your behaviour is wrong and that you shouldn't treat other people like that, but since you don't care - I rest my case.

Just remember - you will be served the same dish that you serve to others.

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I agree:

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RuSSia, on the other hand, tends to harm both itself and others. That's why it has to be stopped.


Sounds like RuSSia to me.


Maybe by RuSSian standards :))))))))

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If there was no question of bribes and anything illegal then CBA and the prosecutor's office wouldn't be involved.


"An individual diplomat"?
According to the Polish prosecutor's office those are the Polish diplomatic posts where the visa "abnormalities" were happening: Hongkong, Taiwan, the United Arab Emirates, India, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, the Philippines and Qatar.

And the guy who lost his job because of this scandal wasn't just any "diplomat", but the deputy Foreign Minister of Poland.

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@ConstantineK, no, it's RuSSia that acts like a psycho and needs to get its ass kicked.

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According to this article Polish CBA started working on this case only because of the pressure from the EU:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/dymisja-wawrzyka-nowe-szczegoly-afery-wizowej-6939123699595904a

A fragment from the article:

"The media added that the visa scandal is connected to an international investigation. It's about the activity of VFS Global, a company from India, which intermediates in getting visas.

- CBA was simply forced to act. It wasn't their initiative. Our partners from the EU have proven that it was on the level of Polish consular services that the abnormalities were happening, resulting in mass give away of visas, which were allowing foreigners from countries with terrorist threat to get into the Schengen Area. - an informer unofficially revealed to the "Gazeta Wyborcza"."