Genealogy / Do you consider Gorals, Lemkos, and Silesians Poles? [77]


So Silesians say.

I was born in Lower Silesia and I have family in both Lower and Upper. Overwhelming majority of Silesians declared in the 2021 census either only Polish identity or Polish first and Silesian second. Those who claim that Silesia is a separate "nation" and that Silesian is a separate "language" are those who identified as Silesian as their first identity - a tiny minority of 232,000 in a region with a population of 7.5 million (4.6 Upper and 2.9 Lower Silesia).

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Grunni, you are lifting up my spirit like a true friend that you are! :)

*high five!*

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Exactly. Wo alle strassen enden etc. ...



... and of course all the wars to end all wars never end anything. :(

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


... but would still chastise me for my Russophilia.


He's surely all right. Złego diabli nie biorą and all that. ;)


You said Turkey. OK, but they are cunning foxes - they're just giving Russia back their S-400s.

You said Scandinavia. Cool, but we have more people than all of them put together.


Good to see that I'm not the only one suffering for the severe case of Polish Paranoia. :)


*fingers crossed*

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


I hope so. 😂

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Yes, we all need a laugh...

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


*fingers crossed*

Unless, of course, the geniuses who rule Poland allow themselves to be provoked and attack Russia. Those F-35s, Apache choppers, and tanks are not exactly defensive weapons. Why can't we all just get along?




Yes, kick me when I'm lying down, thank you. ;)

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:)

Right! At least Germany is on our side this time. *phew*

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


:D


Russia is sending drones to Poland and conducting hybrid warfare through their Belarussian allies, and Americans under Trump don't give a toss about us. We need friends and Brits and the French are the only option left for us... why do I feel this strange historic deja vu? :(

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Alien, don't make me call you a volksdeutsch again.

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


*high five*

News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [254]


The French are behaving very decently--they're sending their Rafale fighters to help with our air defense.

History / Poland, Ukraine population loss in 20-th century [21]


Exactly.

WW3 can definitely produce another baby boom, Ryszard. It can also restore some good old traditional morals, perseverance and survival skills. Why are you so scared sh*tless of it then? You're over 80 so I don't believe that it is you holding so desperately to the pathetic remaining shards of life, so why??? I don't get it.

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Not at all. *bows back*

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Hmm...

That's some serious mental gymnastics right there, BB. Gimme a moment.

*thinks*

No. Somehow 'volksdeutsch' and 'Muslim' don't collocate for me.


Well, I definitely wouldn't see him as a traitor of Poland who sold himself for 30 pieces of silver (or Deutsche Mark), and I wouldn't give a toss that he betrayed Iraq or Syria, so generally I would probably be more friendly predisposed towards him.


Hard to say overall. I would probably still be annoying him. A bit of fun on a Saturday afternoon.


It depends if Dieter was more like you or more like Tacitus.


I would try to be a gentleman... but if she was a crazy feminist I sometimes might not be 100% delicate.

Uffff... that was a lot of mental gymnastics!

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


I don't care. Stop being such a lexical nazi. Words are sometimes befitting even if their actual dictionary definition is different.

Anything else you wanted to add, volksdeutsch?

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]

I am not saying Pawian was 100% right, and I cannot forgive for those who were killed by UPA. Also, I am in no position to apologise for anything Poland did to Ukrainians in the past.

However, personally, as a private person - Kania/Torq - I hereby declare that I no longer bear a grudge against Ukraine for either their historical misconduct or present inability to admit it. I pray and hope that one day they will be able to look at history also from the Polish perspective but it is no longer a matter of personal grudge for me.

Their bravery, sacrifice and courage changed my hardened heart.

It took three and a half years because I'm one stubborn c*nt.



P.S. Also, my past assumptions about the British were unduly negative and harsher than they deserved. I have come to realise that I might well have misjudged them.

There. I said it.

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News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [254]


Yes, I remember you said that and I agree.

Closing the border was the first right move and it should stay closed for as long as the f*cking mustachioed Romeo doesn't stop his antics. If it stays closed for long enough the Chinese will sort Lukashenka out themselves.

As for the Russian drones, well - Ukraine has already offered our soldiers anti-drone training, we should gratefully accept the offer, as well as all the offers of help from European NATO. Also, if it doesn't serve as a good kick in the balls for everyone responsible for Poland's anti-drone defense, then I don't know what will.

News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [254]


Indeed.

And let's not forget using our own TNT to produce artillery shells instead of selling most of it to Americans at cost price.


The only "large enough deterrent" are nuclear weapons. Luckily, we are on the best way to obtaining them, but shhhhh... it is not the best place to talk about it.

News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [254]


From the sentence above I gather that you would seem to be arguing that Polish politicians at the moment tend to align themselves more closely with British foreign policies than with American ones, or even are more inclined to cultivate ties with the United Kingdom than with the United States. I think your analysis is correct, Veli.

Now, what might be the reason for this inclination of Polish elites?

I think one only has to look at the conduct of the Unites States to understand...

USA 1994: Give up your nuclear weapons and you will be safe.
USA 2014: Give up the Crimea and you will be safe.
USA 2025: Give up 20% of your territory and you will be safe.
P.S. Don't forget to give us your rare minerals.

... for an ordinary person, not especially noble nor especially wicked, it is quite impossible not to throw up while looking at it.

One has to say, purely objectively, that the Brits in comparison (and God knows I'm not a big fan of the Perfidious Albion) are behaving rather decently. Hence, our choice of rather "sucking British dick than the American one" as you very poetically put it in the best tradition of belles-lettres russes. ;) Жизнь состоит из выборов, as our Russians friends and neighbours wisely say. ;)

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History / Poland, Ukraine population loss in 20-th century [21]


Dein Wort in Gottes Ohr, Ryszard. :)

News / Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace. [254]

For the duration of Zapad-25 I am wearing my Gefreiter uniform... just in case. :)


As homeopahtic as it indeed may be, it's still 40,000 professionals. Better to have them there instead of just local units and territorial defense. Their job won't be to drive towards Moscow but to delay the advance of the enemy. That is, as you well know, the main job of professional army: die slowly enough for the country to have time to mobilize.


If they are encircled, they will break out at a place of their choosing - over Russian stomachs.

Po polsku / Polska Broń Atomowa [106]


No wiesz, AfD osiąga coraz lepsze wyniki wyborcze w Niemczech. Jesteś pewny, że nie wrócą kiedyś do swoich Lebensraumów, Untermenschów i innych, kurwa, Generalplan Ost'ów?

A że mogą się, jak to zwykle w historii bywało, dogadać przy tym z Rosjanami, to nie przeczę, że taka możliwość też istnieje.

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The question is not whether Roosevelt gave much or medium or little. The question is why he gave what didn't belong to him?

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]


It depends how you look at it.

When it comes to acting like suckers in history, Poland has the most prizes, medals and honorary mentions.

We all know what Bartoszewski said, we all agree, but don't you just wish we had that little bit of British or American kurwiness (yes, it's a word I invented) every now and then?

Po polsku / Polska Broń Atomowa [106]

Dobra, wracamy do zagadnienia nazw dla naszych rakiet jądrowych - broń ta, jeżeli kiedykolwiek zostanie użyta, będzie karą wymierzoną w agresywnych najeźdźców, chcących zniewolić i/lub eksterminować naród polski. Więc może właściwe byłyby takie nazwy jak: Sprawiedliwość, Prawda, Słuszna Zemsta? A może raczej nadać im nazwy tradycyjnych polskich cech i wartości: Szlachetność, Wielkoduszność, Dobro, Miłość?

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