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that what you meant?:
trojmiasto.wyborcza.pl/trojmiasto/7,35612,24360759,adamowicz-od-dawna-byl-przedmiotem-atakow-przed-nozem-byly.html

nothing about Zionism,and it says certificate of political death.means that thy wish him out of politics

ehh them little lies here and there but gregy too smart.see leftist lies from a mile

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huh? i though that was about political death ...but zionism?
link pls or dont lie pls

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heard Hitler never went to Easter front or Auschwitz..he spent time in his villa
he innocent? mafetist pls explain

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that mean Hitler was innocent?

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dodging the law,neglecting security requirements,dodging procedures -someone died..
can Owsiak look into eyes of Adamowicz children? i wonder.
.hes cynical guy after all ,all about money. minutes after adamovicz was stabbed ,he was seen dancing,singing and giving away hes account numbers for donations..business must go on

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what he did ..he broke the law and committed criminal neglection of safety and security requirements.why this guy is still free?someone explain.i dont get it

is it because hes son of SB officer?or because hes mum was Stalinist prosecutor?

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am i speculating without evidence? you the one who said he was right wing sympathizer..where is this link i asked?any evidence?

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where did u get information,he was right wing sympathizer? link please or stop lies

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few days ago 5 young girl were burn alive in so called escape room...organizer was lock in prison for neglecting safety requirements...
why Owsiak criminal is still free?where is prosecutor?. man died because of hes greed.

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no but put restrictions,such as working only under supervision ect.there are risk assessments done,so for example,convicted rapist wont be allowed around young girls ect.

and ,ex -con working in charity with mental person is quite different situation than mental guy being placed in prison.dont u think?

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geeeezes bloo..christ
thats what am arguing about .... in normal care and normal environment,this can be manageable...
this guy was lock with criminals...that is not place for therapy..in the UK you cant even work with them if you have criminal record,let alone putting them to live with criminals.

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from your own link:
W młodości był leczony w Poradni Zdrowia Psychicznego.
seems like you dont even read link you post

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and paranoid schizophrenic doesn't "choose live of crime" hes way of live is determined by hes illness


dont you think that treating em by placing among criminals is kinda controversial method?
thats what am argue about all the time...prison is not place for therapy or treating mental illness

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you talking BS and i stated 10 times that he was diagnosed and treated for schizophrenia for years,since his teen age and long before he ended in prison.


quite reverse..he was schizophrenic and was treated in specialized hospitals long before he committed hes first crime.

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quite obviously what you wrote is just result of your complete ignorance.
planning act and paranoid schizophrenia dont contradict itself..schizophrenic is still capable to plan hes actions that are results of hes paranoia.hes not some vegetable

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no..severely mental ill person cannot be criminal..as cant be child or an animal.
dog can kill or 6 years old child can kill person with a gun but it cannot be deemed as criminal act since 6 years old child has no ability to understand what it did

same with schizophrenics.

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no..he was at the specialized hospital at the age of 14 - for the first time.treated for paranoid schizophrenia.


of course things got worse..cus you dont fkin put mental ill ppl with criminals.


no..he was diagnosed 14 years ago,when he was still teenager.

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Został zorganizowany na podstawie przepisów Prawa o ruchu drogowym, z czym wiążą się mniej restrykcyjne wymogi bezpieczeństwa. Organizatorzy zapewniają, że wynajęta firma ochroniarska została mimo to zobowiązana, by koncert traktować jak imprezę masową (tvn24.pl)

and thats clear.isnt it? and i dont care what organizers claim..its might not be true..it remain to be seen.
what is clear that they were required by the law to register and follow mass event requirements and procedure and not using some public transport dodgy way around as they did.

there is clear path,procedure and requirements to follow,and they didnt for whatever reason..


they got permission and green light from police to organize whatever they were applying for..thats how it work.
they requested some minor road obstruction and used transport legislation as ground and police gave them permission to obstruct road.. they didnt officially request permission for mass event so Police couldn't possibly agree for mass event as you claim they did.


thats not enough and thats just silly way to excuse braking the law.there are more thing one must provide,such as barriers,first aid point,toilets ,information centre,ect.

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am not sure its that massive cost for 40 million country ,to build specialized hospital with security.am not an expert
and am not sure if there is a choice..for me locking severely mentally ill people with criminals ,is violation of human rights.
whats the alternative?locking mentally ill people in prison and making them 10 times more dangerous for society?

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could i get link to similar account of"zloty melon" and "mrowka cala" pls?

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if i to be honest ,without any political bias, the system is to blame here.
i will guys tell you what i think from my perspective..i use to work with mentally ill people ,and it is mind blowing for me to learn that this guy was in prison.

before i started my work in charity,i was required to get CRB check.lasted 3 months..that it criminal record check..in the UK ,you are not allowed to work with mentally ill people without such ticket.i had job but couldn't start it for 3 months until they checked my life.

here i learn that state locked this guy with criminals. thats just stupid,cus you make illness worse,and then when such person get out,he is dangerous for everyone.

my bet,state is just cutting costs..rather than build hospital and implement rigorous security measures ,they sent one psychiatrist to prison and problem sorted.

they say"well,he had medical help there in prison"
it is not about if he had or not psychiatric help in prison....its about -environment hes in..you cant put schizophrenic together with criminals.

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yea,...and hes daughter 2 apartments and no income

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no my friend,you mixed all things..
hatred is when you blame group of people for the crime of severely mentally ill person.as you doing this now.
there are many crimes committed by mentally ill people and about 800 murders a year in Poland.
and guess what?PIS have nothing to do with em.
gotta be sick hate spitting person to blame PIS for that..and thats YOU.


AND i also hope that all this thing is not put aside and investigated properly..Owsiak knows this as well...thats why he quit

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he was somehow less popular in revenue office.

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there we go: rmf24.pl/fakty/atak-na-prezydenta-Gdanska-Pawla-Adamowicza/news-wszczeto-odrebne-sledztwo-dotyczace-organizacji-finalu-wosp,nId,2782703

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sweetheart,legally registered organization that is applying to organize an event is responsible not some"local staff"
"local stuff " might be delegated by organization to take care of things,but they are not some separate entity by the law. Owsiak might delegate whoever he wants,even green man from mars.but by the law,he and hes organization is responsible,.

"local stuff" is not separate organization and not recognized by authority or the law. dont push blame on some local others.he was the one who appointed local people.and they acted with hes or hes people directions

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depends of nature of illness..in severe mental illness,you dont even stand trial,let alone being punished
its called "unfit to stand trial".just google

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no..cus you making it much worse for everyone.
prison guard doesnt understand why ill person behave the way he does,so he use force.beatings,punishments,isolation ect.
on the other hand,mentally ill person doesnt understand why hes being punished,since he doesnt know what hes doing wrong.he said he was being beaten in prison. didn't he?

dead circle that lead to worsen illness.not to mention hazard to other inmates,
then such mental ill person get out and hes state is much worse from frustration and suffering he had.
mental ill person should be in hospital,where professionals try to make hes symptoms mild or manageable.
is it hard to understand?

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because he is to blame,and that why he resign..he knows that.
he was required by the law to register this as mass event..he didnt do it..why?
because then the law required him to provide certain security measures,such as:
licensed security trained with disarming,ect. putting barriers between stage and people,certain number of security.and so on.there are tuff requirements for the event of this scale.

he broke the law,and adamowicz let him do it,to save money,and hired few guys and no serious security measures implemented.

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oh yea,of course..Putin pays me.
how come, someone doesn't agree with brutal beating of mentally ill people?strange.must have an agenda.probably get money from Russia.