News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [674]


So no lie at all then

The PM has been clear that he was aware of that turd's links. He does however have to follow the law as we all do and, as you know, it is illegal to make public statements that may affect the outcome of a jury trial.


She was urging a mob to attack unarmed people. That is a crime.

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Crikey! Are you reading my posts in a secret group for Labour politicians and activists? I posted that quote there two days ago.

Frum is szmata jeden however that quote is a good warning about how important it is to be ahead of public opinion on some issues and behind it in others.

Plus, a warning about the dangers of fascism, national alias, populism.


Quite deliberately. One party was and the other is good at PR and of course people are often easily led.

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The law. It's one of the fairest legal systems in the world and she broke that law.


Whipping up a riot.

Sad to see you reading crap from racists on social media.


What lie?

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [674]


Remember, we're generally very tolerant.

If someone goes on social media and rites "let's form a mob tonight and burn down a building/kill a person", they will get in trouble; same across the Atlantic and rightly so. The woman, however, who filmed herself on the day the Queen died opening champagne and shouting "good riddance to Lizzie", while standing in the street near Balmoral Castle and put it on youtube was chased out of town by an angry crowd however she was driven to safety by the police and not prosecuted.

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Who would do that and why?

The law deals with things that actually happen,

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It is. Same for Czechs and Bulgarians.

Ireland and UK too, since we've traditionally been the largest minority in each other's country. The Scandis all vote for each other as well, as do Greece and South Cyprus.

We always used to get votes from Netherlands and Belgium since for decades they've watched our TV for free and some of the culture has rubbed off on them.

Off-Topic / Pop A Cork - Wine [417]


When I first came to PL years ago, I was surprised to see Tennant's Super in some shops, the stuff in the purple tin that many who drink it hide inside paper bags.


Lubuski is fine.

God save us from 'craft gins' that don't even taste of juniper. Anyway, it always has tonic, ice and lemon, sometimes a dash of angostura, in it. At least you can get slimline tonic in PL nowadays.

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But who would deliver the book to you?

For the record, burning books isn't illegal in most of the UK (NI is an exception due to religious conflict), however anyone starting fires in public would probably face other charges.

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So many have sadly closed over the past few years.

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He's young and has good hair and a Colgate smile. In matters "reprezentacyjny" , people in PL often favour style over substance.


Let's hope both happen.

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Yes


Of course. They exist as a deterrent. Mutually assured destruction is a strong deterrent.

r*SSia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if they still had them.

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Or a risk. Voters under about 40 or 50, educated and not in the countryside find PiS laughable. They're more likely to give the polling booths a miss.

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That's the point of them. An invasion deterrent. If you do them properly rather than put them in silos, they can be anywhere in the world, undetectable beneath the ocean. Any country that wants to invade knows the likely outcome.

Poland is getting drones as well. And is good at making them.

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What people know or don't know isn't the issue. It's what the military strategists know that counts.

Poland is participating in the new European military alliance and there are already two nuclear powers among them
who are both replacing their nukes over the next few terms and developing new ones. Poland could well join those two countries and perhaps have a key role in manufacture.

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Incoherent, not that the MAGA sheep care since they vote how the PR people tell them.

I wonder why he told Walmart to absorb the cost of the tariffs.

Off-Topic / Pop A Cork - Wine [417]

Most of them even. You're right that there are of course some alcoholics with money (I've known a few over the years including a couple of very well known politicians in PL, not publicly known to be drinkers) however the overwhelming majority are skint.

Hence the cheap stuff marketed to them.

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Unless they were really badly damaged, they'd go in the 5p rack or be donated to a prison.

Library books in the U.K. always have snot and dried cornflakes in them anyway.

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Perhaps he'd be a better human being if he did.

Then again, he's incoherent at the best of times. Nobody knew how incoherent he was, nobody else could be so incoherent.

Perhaps it's windmill cancer.

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Alcoholics still mostly buy the cheap stuff though with some of the nastier bottom shelf vodka brands, plus those awful fruit wines, marketed especially for them.

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He is an MA Oxon.


What's that supposed to mean?


A highly respected journalist and writer.

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One party is traditionally part of the establishment, one very much isn't.

One party (we kicked them out last September) are useless. The other very much is not and brought in (and in fact invented) workers' rights, universal healthcare, disability provision and protection from discrimination, maternity/paternity leave and free compulsory education. Things enjoyed in all developed countries and which all of us reading this have benefitted from..

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This is quite interesting

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News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [674]


I'd guess environmental rules and the general lack of fireplaces and furnaces nowadays has done that.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


It does make a difference.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Hmmph. I'm younger than Milo by about a decade. You're a harder call however I'd guess within a decade. Textual analysis does suggest "very young at heart boomer" though...


This does seem to be a trend. It's not imposible to see it morphing into one of those talent show franchises. That might not be a bad step.

It's still not as good as it was when Sandie Shaw* was in it.

* A trivial fact; the reason she sang barefoot is that she is very short sighted and needed to feel the edge of the stage so she didn't fall off...

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Better to sell them for 50p a pop. That or recycle.


Unfortunately some religious people have conniptions about this (depending on whose text it is) and of course the Heine quote "those who burn books will in the end burn people" does carry some weight.

Blasphemy laws were scrapped in England and Wales about 20 years ago and in Scotland a few months ago. AFAIK they still have them in NI which is more religious. There was an incident in PL a few years ago where a clergyman was publicly burning Harry Potter books however I forget how that turned out.

News / R. Trzaskowski, current mayor of Warsaw, future President of Poland [354]


+1. He would be the best choice.

News / France and Germany plan to flood Poland with illegal migrants. [199]


A disreputable source.

And yes, the Tories did start the current wave due to wanting a cheap workforce.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

No. The entrants are sent there by country.

You don't have to post in every thread for the sake of it. It is boring.

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Ask the prosecutors.