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Paulina   
17 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

Well, we have it on paper.

Oh, so it is on paper? How cute :) In PRL constitution we had it on paper too - freedom of speech, free press, freedom of assembly, etc. Imagine that lol

But I was asking if you'd like to have it in RuSSia for real, not only on paper.

I don't want to speculate over the reasons for a person's death.

I think it may be irresponsible for you to do so as well.

LOL

Other than these criteria - most Russians are safe. I would think.

Sure, as long as they don't publicly criticise Putin and his cronies and the corruption and the RuSSian invasion of Ukraine, RuSSian army, etc. and they don't become a leader of real, democratic opposition or they try to go against Putin in elections with some chance of doing well, etc. :))

@Torq lol

Soon, hopefully :):


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Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

Your reference the US and its First Amendment

I don't reference the US and its First Amendment. You keep banging on about them :)

You can't have it both ways

Neither can you. You can't call Poland and EU or Western countries "a cruel joke" and conveniently "forget" about your beloooved RuSSia and Putin, which is much worse in terms of freedom of speech, democracy, etc. :))) So, I'll keep reminding you about your beloooooved RuSSia and Putin :)))))
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

@Novichok, what do they mean by "indecent"? How do you decide about it and how do you measure it? :D

theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/06/russian-parliament-outlaws-online-disrespect

"The law, which critics say is reminiscent of Soviet-era legislation used to target political dissidents, stipulates fines of up to 100,000 roubles (£1,155) for "indecent" online posts that demonstrate a "blatant disrespect for society, the country, Russia's official state symbols, the constitution, or the authorities"."
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

@Novichok, you can also ask a RuSSian judge what is considered as insulting RuSSian government officials, including Putin, RuSSian state and RuSSian flag :))):

"Vladimir Putin signed a restrictive new law that makes it illegal to insult government officials - including him":

businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-law-illegal-insult-him-government-2019-3
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

A country that has "feelings" in its penal code is mentally ill and too pussified.

That includes RuSSia then, because how would you call the law about "discrediting" the RuSSian army and mercenaries fighting for RuSSia? Protecting army's and mercenaries' feelings :)))

Therefore, the cross is out, and the manora is in.

There's a Christian cross hanging in the plenary chamber of the Polish Parliament. No menora there.

Hey, Ms. Pee, how do you measure hurt feelings in Poland?

Ask a Polish judge :) You can also ask a RuSSian judge what "discredits" a RuSSian army and what doesn't while you're at it :)))
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

How about using churches and temples for religious displays instead of propaganda attempts?

Including Christmas trees? :) You think that Christmas trees shouldn't be set up in the building of the Polish Parliament, for example? :)

I especially like the comical attempt to pass seventeen years as a long tradition.

Don't lie. I wrote that this is a "tradition", not "long tradition". And whether it can be considered long or not is subjective anyway.
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

Actually, Braun could have been charged and his immunity revoked already earlier this year for vandalising a Christmas tree in a court in Kraków in January and threatening police officers, but it looks like PiS blocked it - PiS still had hopes at that time for a coalition with Konfederacja:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/braun-mogl-miec-uchylony-immunitet-juz-wczesniej-znamy-szczegoly-6973350520384160a
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

Again, a question so silly it's not worth an answer.

Well, I answered it anyway.

Especially as he hasn't been charged with anything currently.

Yes, the investigation only started and the prosecutor will decide what to charge him for. According to this Polish police officer there are a few possibilities:

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0JSfbZqsvKwZzRLdAzFN7F9d1rTqTF4ejCjN87VqyQDjd7hLgn21ESsX729roVujpl&id=100064488380260

Article 119 kk. - § 1
Article 157
Article 195
Article 257

Braun as an MP still has an immunity though (and he was using this fact on numerous occasions, so there was not much "courage" involved).
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

@Velund, this thread isn't about the RuSSian invasion of Ukraine.

What law defines the possibility of offending the religious feelings of believers depending on the term of the confession's presence in Poland

There's no such law. That's not what jon357 wrote about, neither did you, so stop manipulating.

what is the term for priority treatment of a confession by the authorities?

Tradition? :) (I mean the Presidents wishes and lightning candles for Hanukkah in the Parliament and stuff like that)

Don't tell me that politicians decide this privately and according to the current political conjuncture.

The tradition of lightning the candles for Hanukkah at the presidential palace was started by Aleksander Kwaśniewski and it was continued by all the later presidents. Kwaśniewski was also visiting Polish Tatars. Hanukkah candles have been also lit in the Polish Parliament for the last 17 years or so.

So, it is not regulated by law at all, and politicians/judges decide privately, who can have their religious feeling offended, and who is not?

No, of course not. Why are you confusing two different issues? You asked why Hanukkah candles are being lit at the Polish Parliament. And you got your answer. In case of the law about offending religious feelings no religion gets a preferential treatment.
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

@Crnogorac3, Braun's supporters are active on the internet, but they are in minority in Polish society :)

the satanic menorah

Another anti-Semitic, deranged psycho.

Jews are genocidal monsters and we must act against them at all times.

Hmm, RuSSians are genocidal monsters, so I guess we must act against them at all times, including crashing Orthodox religious holiday celebrations, according to your "logic".
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

@Velund, or why is the Polish president and the first lady posting official wishes for Christian Orthodox and Greek Catholics living in Poland and not for Pastafarians or Voodoo practitioners?:

prezydent.pl/aktualnosci/wydarzenia/zyczenia-dla-wiernych-kosciola-prawoslawnego-kosciola-greckokatolickiego-i-innych-kosciolow-wschodnich-w-polsce-pluaby,62959



What do you think, Velund?
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

They always have a Christmas party

And there are Christmas trees in the Parliament.

Should there be a centuries' old tradition of those communities in Poland, perhaps they might. However there isn't, is there...

Yes, exactly.

when last Pastafarian "party" taken place there?

What about Voodoo "party"?

Polish presidents aren't meeting with and visiting any Pastafarian or Voodoo communities in Poland. But they do meet with and visit Polish Tatars who are a Muslim community. Why do you think is that, Velund?:

prezydent.pl/kancelaria/archiwum/archiwum-bronislawa-komorowskiego/aktualnosci/wydarzenia/prezydent-spotkal-sie-z-polskimi-tatarami,14871

dzieje.pl/aktualnosci/prezydent-w-sokolce-te-czesc-kraju-mozna-uznac-za-wzorcowa
Paulina   
14 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

Will you consider living in Saudi Arabia??lol

No. We have such a law in Poland, in case you haven't noticed. And I prefer to live in Poland :)

I wouldn't want to live in a country where I could end up in prison because some as*hole says I insulted his religious feelings.

And you don't. Is anyone forcing you to move to Poland? Does this particular law in Poland affect your life in the US? No? Then what's the problem? lol

Has the man already been expelled from this party?

No, he's been suspended. And it doesn't look like they're particularly in favour of throwing him out. Bosak said that they care only about the opinion of their voters:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/eksces-brauna-w-sejmie-bosak-zabiera-glos-6973654096431776a

That's a far-right party, so you can imagine what their voters must be like (and their views).
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

The Penal Code states that whoever insults the political feelings of others, publicly insulting the leaders of the Communist Party, is subject to a fine, a restriction of liberty, or up to 2 years in prison.

I prefer to live in a country where offending religious feelings is penalised rather than in one where insulting "political feelings" is illegal :)

the cause he believes is just and worth that risk.

I'm not aware of him having any sane "cause". He claims that Judaism is "satanistic" lol He's not right in the head.

It takes courage.

It takes being not right in the head to think that Judaism is a "satanist cult".

pierdolnij sie w glowe

Sam się pierdolnij, debilu :)
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

He didn't do it because candles are offensive. He did it because the extra special treatment of Jews in offensive.

No, he did it, because he's an anti-Semite and a twat:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/prof-pankowski-niech-czyn-brauna-okryje-hanba-takze-tych-ktorzy-oddali-na-niego-glos-6973361264646848a
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

You may be educated and dumb like a rock at the same time...

You're a great example of that lol

PF has a thread on this subject ONLY because he chose an uncivilized manner.

And illegal, you idiot.

Let me guess...In Poland, insulting Christians is OK and is known as free speech. Do the same to Jews, and the mob is after you...

You guess wrong:

money.pl/archiwum/wiadomosci_agencyjne/pap/artykul/doda;prawomocnie;skazana;za;obraze;uczuc;religijnych,80,0,1107792.html
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

You wanna bet that there is at least one religion among the 4000 that includes slaughtering animals, two faggots fvcking, female genitalia mutilation, and circumcision of boys.

1. In Poland you can only slaughter an animal outside of your farm or slaughterhouse if the animal got into an accident, got injured and it has to be killed off.

2. You can't have sex in public in Poland, no matter if you're heterosexual or gay.

3. Female genitalia mutilation and circumcision of boys isn't a public ceremony. Also, female genitalia mutilation is illegal in Poland.

Lightning candles in public isn't illegal in Poland.

So, your comparisons are absurd.
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

Hey. Ms. Civics, that's not how criminal codes operate. At least in civilized countries. Your feelings don't matter.

We have laws in Poland that Braun broke. And the prosecutor started an investigation already. So, your feelings concerning this don't matter.

Bottom line: The man was right. Sejm is not a museum of cultures and religions.

If he disagreed with something he could express his disagreement in a civilised manner. Especially considering that he's a politician and not some random dude. He didn't and it looks like he may finally pay for this.
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

@Novichok, I didn't write anything about interrupting anything being "OK". I only wrote that noone in the right mind would slaughter an animal in the f*cking Parliament. Your comparisons are, as often, ridiculous and unrealistic.
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

That doesn't change the simple fact that Braun believes he's
acting in the interests of his country which is a pretty pathetic
commentary on Poland.

On Poland as a whole? Sorry, but I disagree. Braun is a leader of a far-right party, which is part of a far-right coalition that got only 7.16% of votes in this year's elections to the Parliament. So, he doesn't represent a vast majority of the Polish people.
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

How does that happen? Why does Russia get debil from the French, and you get it from the Germans?

I'm guessing it's because Poles have been neighbours with Germans and Czechs for centuries... At one point the French language was the lingua franca, so that's probably why this word comes from French in Russian. I don't see anything surprising here, tbh.

die Wanne - Ванна

The same in Polish.

der Büstenhalter - Бюстгалтер

"Biustonosz" in Polish :)

die Spritze - Шприц

It's "strzykawka" in Polish, but we also have a word "szpryca":

sjp.pwn.pl/slowniki/szpryca.html

...and "szprycować":

sjp.pwn.pl/sjp/szprycowac;2527101.html
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

Polish language contains a lot of germanisms.

Yes, we were taught about various loanwords at school :) For example, Polish word '"rynek" comes from German (came to Poland through the Czech language probably) and apparently from Polish it spread to Eastern Slavic languages already during the Middle Ages:

nck.pl/projekty-kulturalne/projekty/ojczysty-dodaj-do-ulubionych/ciekawostki-jezykowe/RYNEK
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

I wonder - did Poles borrow it from Russians by a roundabout way, or also got it from the French?

According to an old dictionary that I have ("Słownik wyrazów obcych i zwrotów obcojęzycznych" by Władysław Kopaliński) it seems to come directly from Latin. In Wikipedia it says that in the Polish language it came from German:

pl.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/debil

"etymologia:
(1.1) niem. debiler Mensch < łac. debilis = 'ułomny, słaby'"
Paulina   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

youtu.be/LL-_dzUxol0?si=V_OHwMYbP_Dj7Lqc

Holownia about this...

As I wrote - you don't seem to know what you're talking about. Hołownia isn't talking about "kicking out Konfederacja from the Parliament". He simply has no right to do that. He's talking about kicking out Konfederacja's Krzysztof Bosak from Prezydium Sejmu:

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prezydium_Sejmu

That would mean that Bosak wouldn't be the vice-marshal of the Sejm (the Parliament) anymore, that's all, and not that he would be kicked out from the Parliament lol:

businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/sasin-mowi-czy-pis-poprze-wykluczenie-bosaka-z-prezydium-sejmu/205x48v