News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]


xD


His companies have filed for bankruptcy multiple times, and - according to Felshtinsky he was bailed by Russians on several occasions (check out his Na Smyczy Kremla). One way or another, he got well over $400 million from his father (in inheritance, gifts and transfers as well as tax dodges)...

apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

... let that properly sink in. Trump started out with about half-a-billion dollars in money and property on a silver platter and then filed for bankruptcy six times. That's the kind of financial genius he is. :) But sure, let's agree to disagree. I don't really care that much.


Well... поживём - увидим, as ancient Greeks used to say.


Your worship of the orange-skinned caveman is getting tedious, birdie.

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Hm... tylko, że musiałby być bardzo duży i wolny z takim obciążeniem, więc łatwy do zestrzelenia. Do przenoszenia takich dużych ładunków przydałyby się raczej jakieś szybkie samoloty wojskowe... w sumie mogłyby być te F-35, ale będziemy ich mieć za mało, jeżeli myślimy o takiej skali, o jakiej wspominałeś.


To jest niesamowicie wkurzające. Jaką oni muszą mieć opinię o Polakach, jak patrzą na tych debili, którzy nami rządzą?


Ale ten sam problem może być z Amerykanami.

W takim układzie pozostaje Francja i Szwecja.

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Money, he inherited obscene amounts of money. What was this old Roman proverb about a donkey loaded with gold?


I'm not. I'm blaming him for destroying the credibility of the USA as an ally and single-handedly dismantling the 80-year-old American world domination. It hurts me because I am a huge Americanophile but also because it was beneficial to Poland.

Po polsku / Polska Broń Atomowa [106]


Pisałem o tym w angielskiej części forum. Koreańczycy z południa zdecydowanie są dobrą opcją.


Oni nas nadal traktują jak Europejczyków drugiej kategorii. Nie potrafią wyjść ze starych schematów myślenia.


1-megatonowa głowica, w zależności od technologii, waży od 2 do 4 ton. Tego się dronem nie przeniesie.

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I trust nobody.


This is also not necessarily true. What is happening might actually turn out to be good for Poland. What I don't like is cheap demagogues but I understand that they sometimes rise to power. That's life.


If the guy hadn't inherited immense wealth, he would now be a retired night porter at some second-rate hotel - because that's what his intellectual level predisposes him to be (no disrespect to hard-working night porters). But hey - I'm not pointing fingers - we elected Lech Wałęsa to be our president after all. These things happen in idiocr... erm... I mean, democracy.


Don't peck me, little bird. Shoo!

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Here it is, birdie. Just 10 examples of Trump's lies--fact-checked by reputable sources like The Washington Post, Politifact, and FactCheck.org:

Election & Voting Lies

1. "The 2020 election was stolen."

Multiple audits, court cases, and investigations-including those led by Republican officials-found no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would have changed the outcome.

2. "I won Georgia by a lot."

Recounts and audits confirmed Joe Biden won Georgia in 2020.

3. "We had an honest election in 2016."

U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to benefit Trump, though they did not determine whether it changed the result.

COVID-19 Lies

4. "COVID-19 will disappear like a miracle."

The pandemic did not disappear on its own; it required vaccines and public health measures to control.

5. "Anybody that wants a test can get a test."

Early in the pandemic, COVID-19 tests were in short supply, and many people were denied access.

6. "We are doing more testing than any other country in the world."

While the U.S. did a high number of tests, many countries tested a higher percentage of their population.

Economic Lies

7. "I created the greatest economy in history."

While the economy was strong pre-pandemic, multiple previous administrations (including those of Bill Clinton and Dwight Eisenhower) oversaw comparable or better periods of economic growth.

8. "China is paying the tariffs, not the American people."

Tariffs are taxes on imports, and studies show that American businesses and consumers bore most of the costs.

Miscellaneous Lies

"9. I was the one who got Veterans Choice passed."

The Veterans Choice Act was signed into law by Barack Obama in 2014, though Trump later expanded it.

10. "I was against the Iraq War from the beginning."

Trump publicly supported the Iraq War in a 2002 interview with Howard Stern before later opposing it.

Would you like 10 more examples?

Po polsku / Polska Broń Atomowa [106]


Małpiszon dostał bana na miesiąc. Nieźle musiał narozrabiać, ale nie wiem o co chodzi - musiałem przeoczyć jakąś poważną dramę. :)

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Don't say yuck, BB. After the American pro-Russian shift, China won't trust Russia anymore (if they ever did). This will open a potential space for the EU-China deal (not necessarily military) but with potential for huge future mutual benefits (we are talking about the economy which is already larger than American in PPP terms).

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Dobra, Panowie, jedziemy z tematem, bo za dużo pierdu-pierdu w tym wątku, a za mało konkretów.

Robimy tak...

- rzucamy poważną kasę na kształcenie fizyków jądrowych i dopieszczamy finansowo tych, którzy już są (granty na badania, dodatki do pensji itp.)
- rozbudowujemy potencjał reaktorów jądrowych (jedyny jaki mamy - Maria pod Warszawą - to zdecydowanie za mało)
- rozpoczynamy na szeroką skalę poszukiwania uranu--w Górach Świętokrzyskich na bank coś jest, na przesmyku suwalskim i w Górach Sowich też warto poszukać
- rozbudowujemy też zakłady chemiczne i w każdym ma być obowiązkowo porządna komórka badawcza
- zaczynamy wielki program cywilnej energetyki atomowej we współpracy z Francuzami i Koreańczykami z południa
- stocznie remontowe musimy mieć na światowym poziomie
- w Akademii Marynarki Wojennej zaczynamy kształcić kadry do naszych przyszłych atomowych okrętów podwodnych
- zanim będziemy mieli atomowe okręty podwodne, opracowujemy system ruchomych pocisków balistycznych, trudnych do namierzenia
- przygotowujemy też oczywiście stacjonarne silosy w górach.

... i jedziemy konkretnie z tym tematem, bo czasy są niespokojne i nie ma co się pierdolić jak matka z łobuzem, tylko trzeba zacząć działać jeszcze szybciej niż do tej pory.

News / Will Chinese soldiers be stationed in Poland and Europe in 10 years? [35]

Perhaps there will be, perhaps not in 10 years, perhaps never...

In geopolitics there are no certainties, no rules set in stone--only game of power, conflicts of interests and projections of force. These things are best dealt with by intelligent adults. Sometimes, alas, the will of voters puts a different kind of people in charge of important countries. That's life.

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Because statements are just that - statements. Talk is cheap and we are not going to base our safety on talk. If the USA were serious about ensuring Poland's safety, we would be included in the nuclear sharing program long time ago--we don't even have that. If the US were serious, we would have a permanent American base (the famous "Fort Trump") long time ago.

The solution to American dilly-dallying and strategic shift towards Pacific is obvious - we have to cooperate with France in nuclear power area, starting with nuclear powerplants and ending with our own nuclear force; switch to South Korea and Turkey as suppliers of long rage strike capability weapons (no kill switch or necessity of constant software updates without which the equipment is rendered useless) in short term and develop our own capabilities mid-term, and - most importantly - severely decrease interoperability of Wojsko Polskie with US Army -- we have to be able to conduct preemptive strikes and force projection operations towards Belarus, Ukraine and Królewiec without being dependent on American cooperation.

At the moment the credibility of the United States of America in any area is near zero. Their time as a global superpower is coming to an end, so Polish and European strategists have to react accordingly. We have to move away from old ways of thinking about America as a serious country and realise that these...





... are the people who hold power in America nowadays. Take a look. Take a good look.

When the petrodollar system is dismantled, when China--whose economy in PPP terms is already 23% larger than American--takes over all the areas that Americans abandon because muppets in the DOGE are "saving money" (all the charity funding is already being taken over by China increasing their soft power and diplomatic influence), and when America finally withdraws from Europe--ending their 80-year-old world domination--we will wake up in a totally different world, a world in which we will have to make a deal with China and Russia.

By the way - the amount saved to date by DOGE is about $80 million LOL...


defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4096431/initial-doge-findings-reveal-80-million-in-wasteful-spending-at-dod/

... that's about 0.004% of the sum that DoD is going to spend on F-35 fighters (the cost will be north of $2 trillion for about 2500 F-35s). xD

As I said, we will soon wake up in the world where the USA holds the position adequate to the quality and intellect of their leadership (take a look at the photos again, if you will), and for this we have to get ready because Idiocracy was not just some comedy movie made twenty years ago - it was a documentary ahead of its time.

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Iron, you're a genius! I'm making this song the official anthem of Poland's Nuclear Forces...

🎵 All We Need Is Nukes (to the tune of All You Need Is Love)

There's nothing you can bomb that can't be bombed,
No place you can nuke that won't be gone,
No world you can wreck that won't be dust,
It's easy...

No leader too bold to press the code,
No city too big to overload,
No bunker too deep to take the blow,
Believe me...

(Chorus)
All we need is nukes... (ba-da-da-da-da!)
All we need is nukes... (ba-da-da-da-da!)
All we need is nukes, nukes...
Nukes are all we need.

There's nothing as strong as mushroom clouds,
No peace talk survives when bombs rain down,
No treaty too firm to burn to ash,
It's easy...

(Chorus - Repeat & Fade Out)
All we need is nukes... (ba-da-da-da-da!)
All we need is nukes... (ba-da-da-da-da!)
All we need is nukes, nukes...
Nukes are all we need.

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What fort Trump?

We have been continuously hearing all about the US leaving Europe in the last couple of months, so what Fort Trump are you talking about?

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That's where you're wrong. There are not many things that Russia's afraid of but Poles with nukes is definitely one of them.

One way or another, we are not going to ask for anybody's permission. We are getting nuclear weapons and that's final. We wouldn't have to do it if America was still a credible ally. Unfortunately, they're not.

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We wouldn't. We have to invest more into our own military industry. It's not what it used to be in terms of sheer volume of production, but still we have some quality products on par with anything else produced in the world...



... Europe in general has so much quality in our military industries--French, German, Swedish and others--that we should be able to do without imports from the US (and I believe we will eventually achieve self-sufficiency in this area).

History / Why Poland is not Russia [260]

Men of culture, I salute you. Allow me to join your discussion...



In Polish it's "sraczka". In the phrase "dostać sraczki" It can mean being stressed maybe even panicked a bit.

Example: "Her boss told her to prepare a presentation for tomorrow and she immediately got sraczka".

We also, have "sraczka słowna" (to talk a lot, without much sense), or "mieć sraczkę" - be very afraid.

Example: "Before his final exam he had such sraczka he couldn't sleep at night".

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@Vesko

Thanks for the information. Very interesting indeed.


Finally something we can agree on!

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You see, Bobi - that's precisely why Poland needs nukes. To keep the selfish twats like Pedro in line. He doesn't want to spend the measly 2% on defence? Wants to deduct his granma's solar panels from the spending? Doesn't worry about Russians crossing the Pyrenees? Splendid. We, therefore, make a slight change in the Polish Nuclear Weapons Doctrine (PNWD).

The brand new, freshly updated, PNWD now says that in case of Poland's fall (either if there are Russian nukes flying towards us and we have one minute to fire ours, or if we are being overrun by millions of invaders) we are redirecting 10 of our... no... make it 20; we are redirecting 20 of our 200 nukes towards Spain. That's the official doctrine, signed and confirmed by the Polish Parliament.

Now our friend Pedro has something to worry about. Now it is in our friend's Pedro's best interest to prevent the fall of Poland. Now our friend Pedro will gladly spend even 4% on defence, and won't even mention the deduction of his wife's electric car from the bill.

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LOL

By creating a worldwide system of economic violence, with dollar as the world's reserve currency and setting up the petrodollar system, it was the USA sucking the living juices out of the entire world. And you were able to do that precisely because you kept Russia and China in check with your economic and military domination over the world, including Europe. Your genius of a president wants to abandon Europe now, and go into "splendid" isolation. Good luck with that. Champagne corks are popping in Beijing and Moscow.

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Is this the book you get your alliance ideas from?

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As His Excellency Radosław Sikorski, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, rightly said: we would rather eat grass than become anyone's colony again.


Good luck doing business without Europe on their side. Europe left alone will be practically forced into alliance with China and Russia, and together with Russia and China, we would be economically strong enough to displace dollar as the world's reserve currency. When that happens, the USA will become Argentina with nukes. And they will have Trumpushka, Muskovite and the rest of the cheap demagogues to thank for that.

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... and I hope they won't let the door hit them on their way out.


Bollox. Russia and China are in this together, precisely to undermine American global domination. Russia in particular is not interested in any long term alliance/deal with the West, but Putin is playing Trump like Magnus Carlsen would play a 600-rated 5-year-old.


Not really. After it became evident that the US can (and are willing too!) switch off their weapons systems remotely, the worldwide orders for their weapons will plummet.


The problem is that with agent Trumpov in power Europe has no guarantee whatsoever that Americans would honour the alliance, even if we pay 10%. So, yeah - they might as well f*ck off and we'll go our own way. It will be a new trend in world geopolitics called EGTOW - Europeans Going Their Own Way, free from all the American b*tching and moaning.

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Now you're just being stubborn. :(

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To be fair, Jonno has never made a secret of being a leftist, so his lack of admiration for patriotic, conservative and Catholic Endecja is understandable.

This, of course, doesn't justify his calling them 'fascist', hence the friendly correction from our part.

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Sure. Poland provides money, population, army and nukes, Hungary provides gulyás, and Serbia provides rakija. Great deal for Poland - sign us up! *rolls eyes*

Or maybe we'll just buy some goulash and rakija from you and stick with the current alliances, thank you.

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With Germany it might have something to do with Lebensraum, Slavic subhumans and all this bullsh*t. Suffice it to say that no prominent NDek had ever expressed his admiration for Hitler or III Reich (like Jędrzej Giertych did for Franco's Spain). They were profoundly anti-German.


Oh, I though you meant "Dolfuss" as in "Adolfus", like play on words or something. I now used Google and found out, for the first time in my life, that there was an Austrian guy called Engelbert Dollfuß. Is that whom you meant? Sorry, but I am not a specialist on tiny European pre-war statelets.


Authoritarian, yes. Fascist, no.

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Of course. But - as I explained to Jonster above - they leaned with more sympathy towards Russia for very commonsensical and practical reasons. Being Russophile doesn't necessarily mean loving all things Russian unconditionally.

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It's unbelievable that an intelligent person can say such galactic nonsense. If they had been admirers of Adolf, they would have preferred alliance with him and not with Russians. Actually, Dmowski and Endecja were strongly anti-German and saw Germany as a long-term threat to Poland, particularly in regions like Silesia, Pomerania, and Greater Poland.


Sure, Endecja favored a strong, authoritarian Polish state but they did not embrace totalitarian or fascist governance in the way Hitler's regime did. Endecja leaned towards a nationalist, Catholic, and conservative vision rather than a mass-mobilized fascist dictatorship. And your reproach against them for wanting the alliance with Russia doesn't take into account that back then we had potential enemies from the east and from the west; the difference was that the eastern ones were our kin, and the western ones viewed Slavs (including Poles) as an inferior race meant for subjugation, and their goal of gaining more Lebensraum threatened our very existence.

Please, remember about all these factors, Jonny Lad, and don't make me call you a son of a Brit again.

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Now that's a bit harsh, isn't it? They weren't fascists but genuine Polish patriots who saw the future of their country in alliance with Russia rather than with perfidious Albion (the sponsor of Prussia--the main force behind the partitions of Poland--in the XVIII century) or weakened and unreliable France. The huge financial support that Britain directed towards Prussia in the 18th century, to weaken France, contributed to the rise of Prussian power and facilitated later partitions of Poland - which Britain pragmatically accepted, because Russia was seen as a better stabilising element in the east of Europe.

Both world wars, the expansion of Russia, the rise of the Soviet Union and today's war in Ukraine all stem from this original sin of modern Europe, from this vomit-inducing act of geopolitical cannibalism - the partitions of Poland. And it all happened because Britain in the 18th century had Prussia and Russia. Probably to make up for what they lacked in their own trousers.

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No, they don't. If they did that would be the definitive end of anything resembling their world domination. What they want is Europe begging them to stay and paying them for protection (as if the European economic potential allied with theirs and not Russian/Chinese wasn't payment enough).


Yes. United Europe wouldn't succumb to any sort of pressure from anyone, and would be an independent player on the world stage. The EU with Russian Trojan horses (Hungary, Slovakia), Russian appeasers (Italy and to some extent Germany), those who don't care (Spain, Portugal), neutrals (Austria, Ireland), confused and out of their depth (France) is a disorderly mix of countries easy to fall prey to either American or Russian divide et impera. That's why closer integration of the EU seems to be the way Poland should support... or, as I mentioned in another thread, neutrality.


Well said.